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    https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/geor...ence-of-fraud/

    What's the point if filing a suit if you have literally no evidence whatsoever?
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    It's all to build confusion, he has been doing it for the past few months. We had 10 faithless electors (those that cast their electoral vote opposite of what the public votes for) in 16, and the way things are going now Trump only needs 1 to force a tie, which would force the election to the House, which would allow him to retain power.

    That's why the Whitehouse is already wrapped in "unscalable" fencing. They've been planning to steal this thing from the beginning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flixy View Post
    https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/geor...ence-of-fraud/

    What's the point if filing a suit if you have literally no evidence whatsoever?
    Disinfo campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    It's all to build confusion, he has been doing it for the past few months.
    Past few years, possibly a decade.

    We had 10 faithless electors (those that cast their electoral vote opposite of what the public votes for) in 16, and the way things are going now Trump only needs 1 to force a tie, which would force the election to the House, which would allow him to retain power.
    In 2016, it might have been equally safe to defect from Clinton as it was to defect from Trump, but the aggression Trump has stoked in the past few days among his armed, conspiracy-obsessed, kidnapping-endorsing base might have tilted the odds in his favour.
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    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    One has to wonder how legitimate such a Trump presidency would be. The constitution is flexible but not indestructible.
    Congratulations America

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    Really going down to the wire

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  8. #938
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  9. #939
    Take a look at this totally normal not at all ludicrously dysfunctional democracy:

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    I do believe Lewk has tried some shady map bullshit before, so I thought this land vs people was interesting gif

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    I wonder if Twitter is going to allow his account once he's no longer the President.
    Congratulations America

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flixy View Post
    https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/geor...ence-of-fraud/

    What's the point if filing a suit if you have literally no evidence whatsoever?
    Trump fully expects conservative judges to do his bidding.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  13. #943
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    It's all to build confusion, he has been doing it for the past few months. We had 10 faithless electors (those that cast their electoral vote opposite of what the public votes for) in 16, and the way things are going now Trump only needs 1 to force a tie, which would force the election to the House, which would allow him to retain power.

    That's why the Whitehouse is already wrapped in "unscalable" fencing. They've been planning to steal this thing from the beginning.
    It is likely that Biden will have substantially more than 270 electoral votes when all is said and done.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    I must say I am shocked at the organizational clusterfuck the states are making are making of counting votes. I am sure there are all sorts of 'explanations' for it, but I don't see how this should be so completely chaotic.

    In an earlier job, I was confronted with a situation where over a million of people had to fill out a form and send it back so we could process the information provided. With a team of 5 temps I managed to get every single form processed. I imagine there are lot more counters available in this elections. Yet I see Georgia not being able to count 60,000 ballots left in a day.
    Months ago I heard an interview from the Secretary of State of Washington, which has had universal mail-in voting for years. She described the challenges involved in scaling mail in voting, especially given verification requirements for ballots wrt e.g. signatures. In Washington, they phased it in over many years and were able to iron out the issues. In 2020, most states are coping with tenfold (or higher) increases in mailed ballots but no concomitant increase in infrastructure or adjustment of the rules to allow for rapid counting and tabulating ballots.

    If you're not allowed to even touch the ballots until election day (as in most of the currently slow states), it's not terribly shocking that there are some delays. Also, in many of the states (e.g. NC, NV) they don't even have all of the ballots due to legally allowed delays in delivery of ballots postmarked by election day. Most states take a long time to finish up the final long tail of ballots that have trickled in - provisional ballots that were cast in person, later-delivered absentee ballots, etc. - but in most races it doesn't matter because they aren't very close. When things are decided by just a few thousand votes, though, is when we actually notice the delay in reporting the last few percent.

    Could it be more efficient? Undoubtedly. But I suspect that it's not as much of a mess as you make it out to be. And frankly I don't think it has seemed all that chaotic in the actual counting and reporting; rather the chaos is all of the surrounding shenanigans by the GOP.
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  14. #944
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    Lots of voter fraud claims being thrown around on social media - Hanlon’s Razor through typical government incompetence is the more likely case for discrepancies and dubious looking behavior. However... what if evidence comes to light of actual fraud? A poll worker caught throwing out a number of ballots for one side or another. Pro-active curing of ballots for one party but not the other by supposedly neutral poll workers. If caught it will likely still be impossible to know the full extent - what legal remedies would the courts consider in such a scenario?
    Throwing Trump in jail for bribery and conspiracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    Meanwhile, surprising evidence that US cops know how to not assault protesters:

    Well sure. These protestors are Republican. Also important (though kinda redundant after saying they were Republican), they're not black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    I must say I am shocked at the organizational clusterfuck the states are making are making of counting votes. I am sure there are all sorts of 'explanations' for it, but I don't see how this should be so completely chaotic.

    In an earlier job, I was confronted with a situation where over a million of people had to fill out a form and send it back so we could process the information provided. With a team of 5 temps I managed to get every single form processed. I imagine there are lot more counters available in this elections. Yet I see Georgia not being able to count 60,000 ballots left in a day.
    It's not just counting them. It's counting them with sufficient attention to detail regarding the ballot to satisfy the partisan observers trying to challenge every vote not going their way. And in many cases these votes are the ones which pose difficulties in that regard. The easy ones were done first and gotten out of the way.
    Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"

  17. #947
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    Throwing Trump in jail for bribery and conspiracy.
    He's subverting the democratic institutions of this country. Throw Trump in jail for treason. He's always said he supports bringing that back as a prosecuted charge.

  18. #948
    Quote Originally Posted by wiggin View Post
    It is likely that Biden will have substantially more than 270 electoral votes when all is said and done.


    Months ago I heard an interview from the Secretary of State of Washington, which has had universal mail-in voting for years. She described the challenges involved in scaling mail in voting, especially given verification requirements for ballots wrt e.g. signatures. In Washington, they phased it in over many years and were able to iron out the issues. In 2020, most states are coping with tenfold (or higher) increases in mailed ballots but no concomitant increase in infrastructure or adjustment of the rules to allow for rapid counting and tabulating ballots.

    If you're not allowed to even touch the ballots until election day (as in most of the currently slow states), it's not terribly shocking that there are some delays. Also, in many of the states (e.g. NC, NV) they don't even have all of the ballots due to legally allowed delays in delivery of ballots postmarked by election day. Most states take a long time to finish up the final long tail of ballots that have trickled in - provisional ballots that were cast in person, later-delivered absentee ballots, etc. - but in most races it doesn't matter because they aren't very close. When things are decided by just a few thousand votes, though, is when we actually notice the delay in reporting the last few percent.

    Could it be more efficient? Undoubtedly. But I suspect that it's not as much of a mess as you make it out to be. And frankly I don't think it has seemed all that chaotic in the actual counting and reporting; rather the chaos is all of the surrounding shenanigans by the GOP.
    Stopping legally allowed observers is a clusterfuck. Dead people voting (no matter how few) is a clusterfuck. Not requiring signatures to match is a clusterfuck.

  19. #949
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    Stopping legally allowed observers is a clusterfuck. Dead people voting (no matter how few) is a clusterfuck. Not requiring signatures to match is a clusterfuck.
    Nobody is stopping legally allowed observers. Republicans have observers wherever they want observers.
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  20. #950
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    Nobody is stopping legally allowed observers. Republicans have observers wherever they want observers.
    That press conference was hilarious(ly sad)

    "Finally we can now go and observe the voting process, blah blah blah", you already were observing the voting process you dicks. You're just putting up theatre to convince dumb fucks like Lewk how unfair them libruls are.
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  21. #951
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    I do believe Lewk has tried some shady map bullshit before, so I thought this land vs people was interesting gif

    That's interesting.
    Looks like democrats are mayority close to bigger cities in general.

    We do have simular patterns here but since you essentialy only have two political sides it becomes so extreme.
    And it's still a stall.

    Only a 665 lead for Trump in GA now.
    Last edited by rille; 11-06-2020 at 09:00 AM. Reason: /tried adding image but it didn't work.

  22. #952
    Yesterday switching between CNN and FOX while playing Satisfactory, I saw this "breaking news" ... took a screenshot because it just perfectly sums up this election.

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  23. #953
    Biden leads in GA!

    This is fantastic:
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  24. #954
    Looks like Biden will get GA; now Trump can at best get even.
    So either Biden or house will elect... Biden I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    Stopping legally allowed observers is a clusterfuck. Dead people voting (no matter how few) is a clusterfuck. Not requiring signatures to match is a clusterfuck.
    You know? I don't particularly like American liberals, I don't think Biden is the right choice for the office of the President. But what really disgusts me is people like you who cheer on the destruction of their own country. This isn't any longer about who is the president. This is about if you are still capable and willing to peacefully live next to what are still called your fellow Americans. If you make society a zero sum game the way you promote you can expect the whole system to break down. Maybe you can reconsider and inject some common decency in the way you interact with them. Because if the roof caves, you're gonna find that the debris will hit you just as easy as any liberal.

    Keep in mind that this is coming from someone who actually believes that Richard Nixon was one of the great presidents in the history of the United States.
    Last edited by Hazir; 11-06-2020 at 11:13 AM.
    Congratulations America

  26. #956
    Networks cut Trump speech as some Republicans chastise president over election lies

    Donald Trump addressed Americans from the White House on Thursday, illegitimately declaring victory in the presidential election for the second time this week. Several US news networks cut their feeds of the 16 minute speech, and numerous Republicans condemned the many falsehoods proclaimed in it.

    MSNBC halted its live stream of the speech just a few minutes in, with host Brian Williams saying: “Here we are again in the unusual position of not only interrupting the president of the United States but correcting the president of the United States."
    Just when you think the rabbit hole that is Donald Trump's behaviour can't get any more weird/pathetic, we get this.

    What the heck are the people around him doing? Is there noone who can step in and say; "sir, you cannot say that" .. ? Are they scared of him?

    Edge of the cliff, staring at the abyss, final hour desperation behaviour we are seeing now I suppose. A cornered, pathetic little rat.
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    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

  27. #957
    In the words that Trump may understand: He is a LOSER! SAD!
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  28. #958
    Quote Originally Posted by Timbuk2 View Post
    Just when you think the rabbit hole that is Donald Trump's behaviour can't get any more weird/pathetic, we get this.

    What the heck are the people around him doing? Is there noone who can step in and say; "sir, you cannot say that" .. ? Are they scared of him?

    Edge of the cliff, staring at the abyss, final hour desperation behaviour we are seeing now I suppose. A cornered, pathetic little rat.
    They're done for, the next 70 days are going to get crazier and crazier as his circle gets more and more desperate for those pardons.
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  29. #959
    PA is now light blue.
    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
    The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
    When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
    I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun

  30. #960
    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
    The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
    When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
    I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun

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