I think Dread's idea is well buried now. Sorry Dread, it all stays on you. About the rules themselves:
Originally Posted by littlelolligagged
I think Dread's idea is well buried now. Sorry Dread, it all stays on you. About the rules themselves:
Sounds fine to me, but I like my "rules should be obvious" idea...
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Lilo are you referring to the recent grandomache between Cain and Tear in at least two threads? I think that's fine. But it seems there are less egregious examples that don't warrant a 5 pointer. I'm assuming Randnought will be judicious with the warnings before paddling like a Texan?
Second - the should be obvious.
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
Nearly everyone is guilty of doing it at some point.
There comes a point where it becomes disruptive. That's what is worth points.
We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.
I agree.
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
Oh yeah?
Well, I concur!
Take that.
You can't. We already used it this year. Damn.
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
Dang.
No. Damn. Dang clearly isn't a word.
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
Fiddlebiscuits is the word you are looking for.
We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.
I think we should hold all potential bannings to this standard: is the annoyance comparable to that Dread feels when he hears about a 9/11 conspiracy theorist? Seriously, isn't that everybody's standard of offensiveness?
I don't think it should be worth points at all. Just made clear that it's frowned upon. There are some times when it's legitimate anyways. In most cases in the past, by the time it was disruptive it could easily fall under trolling/flaming rules too. I think we can just have that as the coverage.
Yes, to be clear everyone convinced me it was a bad idea last night.
I actually do think bringing fights into other threads is a problem, one which I usually deal with as trolling if it gets too bad. But I know that use/definition of trolling sometimes riles people up.
Dang gum it!
Fights in general are bad. I don't like them when I have them, I don't like it when others have them, and they don't add anything valuable to the forum. I would support a greater level of intervention from the mods when flat out, bare knuckle shouting matches take place.
There he goes again.Dang gum it!
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
So, are these actual rules the mods will be enforcing in future, or another decent proposal which will be ignored?
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
Actual rules, I hope. At least until people demand changes. I can't force the moderators to do anything, but these are already in the system.
More feedback on this still required.
The consensus seems to be moving against this, but more feedback still requested.
Sticky them in this forum.
Suggestion for process:
1) Start thread on proposed change to discuss options.
2) Admin or mod makes a poll with options from the discussion thread, plus no change option.
3) New rule or changed rule goes in sticky.
??
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
I like what Steely says.
Also, there really needs to be some limit to how long the discussion goes on. Because we can just avoid the issue forever.
We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.
Alright. I'll try to explain the things more clearly and formal-like in the stickied post. I'm surprised you people are letting the excessive stupidity rule stick.
I like the excessive stupidity rule, though.
We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.
Sounds like a perfect one to throw at kath to me.
Alright then, it's there. The language is awkward, but maybe Dread or Rand can pretty it up later.
Can we get something along the lines of "If you are unsure of whether a posting behavior would be against the rules, ask yourself if you want that particular behavior remembered forever, or if you would act this way in real-life. If the answer to either of these questions is 'No' perhaps it is not advisable to post that way."
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The posters who would benefit from advice like that would not read it, let alone take it to heart
In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
I copied and pasted anyways.
Its not for them to read so much as its for the moderators when the offending party ultimately goes "But wer is that rule in da rulez?" at which point the moderator's can point to the fact that no reasonable person would act that way in public or want that action remembered forever...
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The new rules are written in a way that makes it sound like my nigger remark would have earned 10 points, that really where we stand?
I do like how you seperated trolling from flaming
That was very dickish of you, but maybe not worth 10 points. 5 I wouldn't balk at. But I'm not really moved to reduce the point value yet.
The idea behind the high point value for that rule was that it's hard to break it here, and thus it should be appropriately rewarded for posters who go that extra mile to do so.
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