The international organisations that have accused Israel of War Crimes in Gaza include but are not limited to:Originally Posted by Hazir
Human Rights Watch
Amnesty International
B'Tselem
The UN
Medecins Sans Frontieres
Oxfam
Reporters Without Borders
Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor
Most or all of them have people on the ground in Gaza.
But sure, it's just 'my opinion'.
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IDF murders three Israeli hostages waving a white flag:
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-...-east-67732895
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
The more info that comes out about this, the worse it looks. No Hamas in area. Hostages told to come out by IDF. Hostages spoke Hebrew and came out with white flag. But Israeli unit suffered heavy casualties and were in no mood to accept surrenders.
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unsubstantiated accusations do not constitute war crimes. So yes, just a bunch of opinions.
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Hazir, Israel just committed what would be called war crimes against its own hostages. You think this is the first time surrendering civilians got butchered? I don't think the accusations are unsubstantiated at this point.
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If only Hamas terrorists wouldn't disguise as civilians
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Utter nonsense.
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There were no Hamas members in the building. The hostages were following orders from the IDF. They had a white flag. You're basically saying Israel should be free to kill any and all civilians as long as Hamas members disguise themselves as civilians.
Israeli media is reporting this.
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Please dear god there are better ways to cope with waning dignity than showing your whole dumb ass over and over again.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
This has absolutely no bearing on what I said. Genocide and other atrocities must be prevented. If they can't be prevented, they must be stopped. If they can't be stopped, they must be punished. Irrespective of which group does it. Regardless of provocation. Atrocities don't cancel out. Atrocities don't justify atrocities. Atrocities aren't theoretical exercises. You're not supposed to let them play out just so you can tally the score after the dust has settled and the bodies have grown cold. They're moral emergencies that mandate immediate action. There is no room for neutrality with respect to atrocities.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
You wanna go ahead and boycott and embargo each side in response to their atrocities? Go ahead. But there's a word for that. In English, it's referred to as "neutrality"
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Have you suddenly become functionally illiterate or is there some other reason you seem to be incapable of understanding the concept of not being neutral about an atrocity? Just breathtakingly stupid to think that opposing atrocities committed by two different groups is tantamount to "neutrality" with respect to those atrocities. If I oppose mass murders by both Nazis and Communists, that doesn't make me neutral with respect to mass murder. Jfc. I'd blame your asinine and amoral media, but I kinda feel like you should be held personally responsible for succumbing to what is known in English as "brain worms".
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
https://www.timesofisrael.com/livebl...s-opened-fire/
Is there any interpretation of what happened that doesn't entail the IDF killing everyone it comes across on the battlefield? It just so happens that the victims this time are Israeli. Otherwise we'd never hear about this.
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Tbf we have heard about this
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...hs-allegations
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
We're talking about similar behavior on a far larger scale. I've heard about a single unit killing dozens of surrendering Palestinians (whether Hamas or not).
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It reflects the same pervasive institutional rot. Not just a few bad apples. There have been reports of a deterioration of moral and legal standards, but that process began long ago; it's had a long time to spread, and to take root. It's only becoming more apparent now because of the scale and intensity of their activities.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/16/w...e-attacks.htmlIsraeli security officials scored a major intelligence coup in 2018: secret documents that laid out, in intricate detail, what amounted to a private equity fund that Hamas used to finance its operations.
The ledgers, pilfered from the computer of a senior Hamas official, listed assets worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Hamas controlled mining, chicken farming and road building companies in Sudan, twin skyscrapers in the United Arab Emirates, a property developer in Algeria, and a real estate firm listed on the Turkish stock exchange.
The documents, which The New York Times reviewed, were a potential road map for choking off Hamas’s money and thwarting its plans. The agents who obtained the records shared them inside their own government and in Washington.
Nothing happened...
...Mr. Levy recalled briefing Mr. Netanyahu personally in 2015 about the Hamas portfolio.
“I can tell you for sure that I talked to him about this,” Mr. Levy said. “But he didn’t care that much about it.”
Mr. Netanyahu’s Mossad chief shut down Mr. Levy’s team, Task Force Harpoon, that focused on disrupting the money flowing to groups including Hamas...
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I guess they thought Hamas could be managed through "bribery and deterrence".
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
At this point, it's hard to see how Netanyahu hasn't been the world's second biggest supporter of Hamas (after Iran).
Hope is the denial of reality
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
You really like to degrade people who don't agree with you. Kinda like the average fascist.
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The problem is of course that one side of this conflict feels something tantamount to a world law enforcement should take care of this and the other side feeling that the organisation closest approaching that has a history of prejudice against it.
At the same time the first side supporters are entirely happy to jump to conclusions and put themselves in the roles of prosecutor, judge and executioner while they are at it. Leaving preciously little room for neutrality if you don't want to be complicit in the annihilation of the state of Israel.
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The mistakes Netanyahu made do in no way justify the attacks of 7 October, so there's no reason to bring them up as if they are a relevant factor in the question if and how Israel may defend itself.
If you think it does, then I presume you also think that given the role the US had in the growth of al Queda, it had forfeited any right of self defense against terrorist attacks like those on 9/11.
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The BBC has proven itself to be neither neutral nor reliable. I see no reason to base my opinions on this tragedy on their reporting.
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You're degrading yourself with this clownposting. Jfc what an embarrassment.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Except, unlike Bush, Netanyahu has actively propped up Hamas.
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The issue isn't defense, it's whether the crook is fit to lead the nation. Netanyahu and his henchmen made decisions that directly facilitated a terrorist attack. Such deadly incompetence is immediately disqualifying in leaders. They should've resigned or been ousted; instead, they're being given a chance to save face by committing atrocities of their own.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Well, I guess this needs no further comment.
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And how is this a relevant distinction? Several US administrations have actively propped up AQ. It's still the same state actor.
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Your opinion about the fitness of Netanyahu has no bearing on the right to self defense of Israel. You have all sorts of opinions on the way Israel defends itself. You don't help yourself with diatribes against Netanyahu 's fitness to rule. It just makes you look more like someone extremely prejudiced against Israel.
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