You'll see most of the international responses once the fighting is over.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1e82yy0wxno
This was basically Assad's plan for rebel areas.
You'll see most of the international responses once the fighting is over.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1e82yy0wxno
This was basically Assad's plan for rebel areas.
Hope is the denial of reality
Israel really doing a speed run to pariah status:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwylekwngz8oThe UN peacekeeping force in southern Lebanon says Israeli tanks forced their way into one of its positions early on Sunday morning.
In a statement, the UN Interim Force in Lebanon (Unifil) said two Israel Defense Forces (IDF) tanks destroyed the main gate of a post in Ramyah, near the Israeli border, and "forcibly entered the position" to request it turn out its lights.
About two hours later, it said rounds were fired nearby that saw smoke enter the camp, causing 15 peacekeepers to suffer skin irritations and gastrointestinal reactions...
Hope is the denial of reality
Don't worry bro I have it on good authority that Gazans will not starve to death.Originally Posted by Loki
I think I'll finally go insane if the deliberate attacks on UN peacekeepers go unanswered by western powers. Those units and their commanders should be hit with sanctions and arrest warrants today. We know the IDF will escalate.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/14/w...n-shields.htmlMr. Shubeir, then 17, said he was forced to walk handcuffed through the empty ruins of his hometown, Khan Younis, in southern Gaza, searching for explosives set by Hamas. To avoid being blown up themselves, the soldiers made him go ahead, Mr. Shubeir said...
...The Times interviewed seven Israeli soldiers who observed or participated in the practice and presented it as routine, commonplace and organized, conducted with considerable logistical support and the knowledge of superiors on the battlefield. Many of them said the detainees were handled and often transported between the squads by officers from Israel’s intelligence agencies, a process that required coordination between battalions and the awareness of senior field commanders. And though they served in different parts of Gaza at different points in the war, the soldiers largely used the same terms to refer to human shields...
...A few days before his release, the soldiers untied his hands and made him wear an Israeli military uniform, he said. Then they set him loose, telling him to wander the streets, so that Hamas fighters might fire at him and reveal their positions, he said. The Israelis followed at a distance, out of sight....
At this point, I don't see what separates Israel's military from Syria's. Russia's is marginaly better.
Hope is the denial of reality
Well, there's one important difference - unlike Assad's forces, the IDF is the world's most moral army, with staunch defenders among the enlightened members of this forum (not to mention the US government).
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
How Zionutty.
If you feel uncomfortable, just imagine how that kid must feel. Or felt?
Anyway, just pretend it's AI or watch a performance about October 7th.
Israel is the only victim here. Imagine the money they will need to spend on PR consultants to spin this one.
David Cameron: I had plans to sanction Israeli ministers
(but he didn't)
Chotiner: The novelist Howard Jacobson has argued that too much press coverage of dead Palestinian children is a new form of “blood libel” against Jews.
In his defense, unlike some people, he realizes on some level that he's being stupid and ignorant.I asked you about the specific intentional denial of humanitarian aid, and your answer was something like “Well, I don’t know what to believe anymore when I read the news, so I can’t really comment on that.” Is that right?
Put quite like that it sounds as though what I said was stupid and ignorant. One got accounts and accounts and accounts and it was very hard to know what was the truth.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
- Zionism is settler colonial movement by European Jews. (Vladimir Jabotinsky "Zionism is a colonization adventure").
- Israel was created on stolen Palestinian land.
- Zionists thought that Palestinians would forget and never go back to their homes. (Ben Gurion also warned in 1948: Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes: In a letter to his son. "We must do everything to ensure they [Palestinians] never do return...The old will die, and the young will forget."
- To ensure they are doing everything to ensure that Palestinians do not return, Israel has to 'defend' the stolen land and their occupation.
- To fulfil Zionist aspirations, Israel continues to steal more land.
In this context, child murder and every depravity imaginable from Israel is understandable.
Israel is an illegitimate state, born from ethnic cleansing, theft and murder and has no right to defend its occupation.
But daddy USA will continue to fund it and provide political cover - partially due to US politics being severely distorted by AIPAC money.
Too much antisemitism in one post?
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...hnk/index.html
LFG!! Great job IDF - in the future please execute captured terrorists instead of providing them high-tech medical care.
Given how they treat prisoners not charged with any crime, I don't think that's something you have to worry about.
?At Soroka Medical Center, Israeli surgeons removed a brain tumor that would have been fatal. Bitton emphasized that without surgery, the tumor would have burst.?
Honestly you're such a weird little freak but your illiteracy is somehow even more annoying. I don't know how such an utterly useless person manages to put food on the table.
https://www.btselem.org/press_releas...elcome_to_hell
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/06/m...ntl/index.html
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-relea...dy-preventable
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Try to stay on topic - my point is that Israel shouldn?t be doing advanced medical care on captured terrorists like brain surgery. Israel literally saved the life of the mastermind of October 7th - there?s a lesson here, and I hope Israel learns it. Mercy for the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.
Try to stay on topic eg. the post you were replying to and pref. also stay in the right decade you confused little tit.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
When talking about the death of the head of fking Hamas, his history is extremely relevant. Israel provided world class care to a terrorist prisoner when they should have just executed him. Hopefully Israel does better about taking out the trash in the future!
The World's Most Moral Army bars six medical NGOs from entry to Gaza
It's 2024 you imbecile.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
The World Forgotten's most moral army continues to attack UN Peacekeepers as well as trying to draw Hezbollah attacks to UNIFIL positions. Only a matter of time before casualties compel contributing nations to withdraw their troops. Primitive rogue state behavior tbqh.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Does anyone know where the arrogance and hubris the Zionist Defenders had in the first 50 pages of this venerable thread has gone to?
Will it ever be back?
Asking for a friend.
(Ignoring of course, the weird and idiotic Lewkowski guy who appears to have a fetish of celebrating his retarded thoughts and behaviour, and then being shit on by literally everyone.)
How about when those people who were fleeing genocide are evidently shown to have been playing into a plan to ethnically cleanse and establish a Jewish Supremacist state, murdering and ethnically cleansing the indigenous inhabitants and stealing their land and homes? And then to defend the stolen land and homes, have to enact a decades long brutal military occupation. All the whilst labelling the people resisting and wanting their land back as ‘terrorists’, and blaming their ‘religious ideology', or the fact that the Palestinians are only fighting Israelis because they are Jews?
How about when your favourite Zionist occupation army have been plausibly committing a genocide for over a year?
You’re a deeply indoctrinated racist, viewing Arabs and Muslims are inferior people from an inferior culture, and believe it right that white European and American Jews have a right to murder and replace them.
There’s literally nothing that Israel could do, and nothing you could learn, that would cause you to change your views.
You are the one who lacks all credibility.
How sad.
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Ignorant and wrong.
Do you still hold these views?
Jews have always been present in Palestine. Only since the Bar Kokhba rebellion in 135 AD were Jews expelled from Jerusalem alone by the Romans, only allowed to visit under limited circumstances, such as during Tisha B?Av.
This changed with the Islamic conquest of Palestine. It was handed over peacefully by the Patriarch Sophronius to the second Khalif Omar, who was shocked to discover Jerusalem devoid of Jews, and summoned Ka'ab al-Ahbar, a Jewish convert to Islam who was highly knowledgeable in Jewish scripture and traditions. Ka'ab al-Ahbar assisted Umar in matters concerning Jewish religious practices and served as an intermediary between the Muslim authorities and the Jewish community. Ka?ab was commanded to find 10 Jewish families and help them resettle in Jerusalem, contributing to the city?s renewed religious diversity. (Sophronius actually asked Omar to not do this, but Omar ignored it.)
And there is exactly zero evidence to suggest anyone in Palestine was forcibly and systematically converted to Islam over 1,300 years of Muslim control. Nor is there a single shred of evidence non Muslims were ever systematically wiped out under Muslim rule. Infact, the opposite is true. The Crusaders wiped out Muslims under their control in 1099 and subsequent years. I am open to having my mind changed on this. Just show me the evidence.
Some Jews in Palestine over time chose to convert to Christianity and then to Islam. Even Ben-Gurion recognised this. Moshe Dayan referred to the Palestinians as the 'Lost Tribe’.
Read Shlomo Sand.
In fact, your claim is a horrific inversion of reality.
The tanakh records in detail a genocide of the natives of what became Israel. We learn what the tribes of Israel (later known as Jews) did.
"They devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, and donkeys." (Joshua 6:21)
Apparently, they only spared a single woman in Jericho (and maybe her family, I forget), because they helped Israelite spies.
They also killed all of the men in Ai:
"When Israel had finished killing all the men of Ai in the fields and in the wilderness where they had chased them, and when every one of them had been put to the sword, all the Israelites returned to Ai and killed those who were in it." (Joshua 8:24–25)
And Hazor.
"Everyone in it they put to the sword. They totally destroyed them, not sparing anyone that breathed, and he burned Hazor itself." (Joshua 11:11)
Some eagle eyed people might even see a parallel of what the descendant of these genocidal people are doing, literally right now as you read this.
So let it sink in. Palestinians were willing to give up a part of their land taken from them by force, and forgive the Nakba, and yet Israel was a bad faith negotiating partner.
And now we learn that the Zionist entity was just stringing Palestinians and the world along with fake negotiations to create ‘facts on the ground’ to expand settlements - to ensure there will never be a two state solution. Just like the Likud charter of 1977 stated. "between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.”
Nothing is surprising by a state established by ethnic cleansing.
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Remarkable:
"DOJ Lawyers Press Merrick Garland to Investigate Israel’s Killing of American Citizens" – https://zeteo.com/p/exclusive-doj-la...stigate-israel
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Netenyahu is another wannabe dictator, a war criminal, and he's leading a government of other war criminals and directing a military that's engaged in war crimes. The Gazan leadership and its "guerilla's" aren't any better. And you yourself aren't worthy of licking a dog's foot after its buried its own shit.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
The fact that you are prepared to spread Zionist lies used to justify the genocide shows you wholeheartedly supported the shit Zionists did in 1948 and you clearly support all the continued atrocities since then, which are essentially part of the policy. You don’t get a free pass of being able to claim ignorance.
You have this amazing ability to disregard the facts and turn to the whole “brown people who dare to want to free = bad, and if the Zionists are clearly wrong, it’s still somehow the brown peoples fault and a pLaGuE oN AlL yOuR hOuSeS”. Totally unable to recognise the injustice against Palestinians, and engage in victim blaming. It’s fascinating to watch.
I wonder if your racism is that deeply ingrained that you will not be able to unlearn it before the end of your miserable existence.
But you take everything Israel says credibly.
So, did you ever think of a name for Noa Argamani’s pretend rape baby? Whaddabout Meir Ben-Shitrit, to honour this modern day hero?
You are a troll. You do nothing on this forum but try to provoke people. No propaganda from Israel can reinforce my position that both sides can go fuck themselves half so well as your behavior does. And you can go fuck yourself sideways with a pig bone too.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Anyone who justifies the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and engages in victim blaming and “both sides”’ing it, well, I just can't take anything they say credibly.
I’m not sure how other people do either.
It’s shit like this that enables support for all the nasty stuff Aimless is posting. Beheaded babies, babies in ovens, rape. Nazis make it up, and retards like you believe it, use it to justify your racism and victim blaming and you propagate it. This shit translates to people sympathising with Zionism, or at the very least both side’ing it.
That’s why I won’t let it go.
I mean, you could just shut me up when you show us all some evidence of all this rape you shill for Israel. But you’re not good for that.
So stick to the propaganda. Donate to the IDF or something. Go campaign for Israel. Go suggest Noa some Hamas gang rape baby names.
I don’t have a pig bone. Once you’re done fucked yourself side way with one, feel free to throw it my way.
A plague on your house too.
‘He got out of Gaza, but Gaza did not get out of him’: Israeli soldiers returning from war struggle with trauma and suicide
Fucking incredible. They go there and murder people, and then complain it makes them feel sad.
He only whitnessed it, folks. Passive voice. He was just sat there in his Bulldozer and it ran over people itself.
"He saw a lot of people die. Maybe he even killed someone. (But) we don’t teach our children to do things like this,” she said. “So, when he did this, something like this, maybe it was a shock for him.”
Guy Zaken, Mizrahi’s friend and co-driver of the bulldozer, provided further insight into their experience in Gaza. “We saw very, very, very difficult things,” Zaken told CNN. “Things that are difficult to accept.”
The former soldier has spoken publicly about the psychological trauma endured by Israeli troops in Gaza. In a testimony to the Knesset, Israel’s parliament, in June, Zaken said that on many occasions, soldiers had to “run over terrorists, dead and alive, in the hundreds.”
“Everything squirts out,” he added.
Zaken says he can no longer eat meat, as it reminds him of the gruesome scenes he witnessed from his bulldozer in Gaza, and struggles to sleep at night, the sound of explosions ringing in his head.
“When you see a lot of meat outside, and blood… both ours and theirs (Hamas), then it really affects you when you eat,” he told CNN, referring to bodies as “meat.”
Notice the Hamas there in brackets. They were Hamas, so it was okay to kill them.
For many, the transition from the battlefield back to civilian life can be overwhelming, especially after urban warfare that involves the deaths of women and children, Bregman said.
“How can you put your children to bed when, you know, you saw children killed in Gaza?”
Despite Mizrahi’s PTSD, his family said he agreed to return to Gaza when he was called up again. Two days before he was meant to re-deploy, he killed himself.
Saw children killed in Gaza? Passive language? Just standing there and saw them get killed?
There’s a whole genre of Israeli Bulldozer videos on Twitter for Lewkowski to jerk off to. Here’s a sample what these bulldozer drivers have recently done.
Israeli Bulldozer driving around with dead bodies in Jenin
Israeli Bulldozer ploughs into a young Palestinian boys body
Israeli Bulldozer carrying bodies of Palesinians in Tukarm
Israeli Bulldozers burying Palestinians alive
Israeli Bulldozer runs over a Palestinian Not sure if the guy was dead, but he was motionless
Israeli Bulldozer chases Palestinians and impales one of them on its blade
I can’t seem to find the one where they ran over tents pitched outside a hospital in Gaza, with people still inside.
But plenty more for you to find.
As a reminder, this is the country that used a bulldozer to crush Rachel Corrie to death, an American citizen about 20 years ago. And they have “Rachel Corrie Pankcake Day” to mock her, making pancakes and painting her face on it.
Just demonic.
I believe this resettlement of Gaza conference was attended by many MKs.
This type of shit makes antisemitism rise and endanger Jews in western countries.
Detailed investigation into just one battalion in The World's Most Moral Army:
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/israe...emolition-gaza
Recalling posts in this thread during previous attacks on Gaza over the years. It's difficult to overstate just how utterly, contemptibly stupid some weird nerds are about the IDF's culture. Killers are among the dumbest special interests one can have.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
IDF soldiers should refuse orders that may be war crimes, Israeli ex-security adviser tells BBC
Israel has no history, just a criminal record.
But now Mr Etzion, a former soldier himself, is warning that Israel’s military - the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) - might be committing war crimes in northern Gaza. And he is suggesting that officers and troops should reject illegal orders.
“They should refuse. If a soldier or an officer is expected to commit something that might be suspected as a war crime, they must refuse. That's what I would do if I were a soldier. That's what I think any Israeli soldier should do,” he tells me.
….
“The will to revenge could be understood. It's human, but we're not a gang, we're not a terror organisation, and we're not a militia. We're a sovereign country. We have our history, we have our morals, we have our values, and we must operate under international law and under international standards if we want to continue to be a member of the international community, which we do.”
The world is starting to see what Israel always was. The second rate hasbara no longer cuts it
You can't take anything credibly, accurate or inaccurate. Just a walking ball of prejudice and vitriol.
No one changes their position or dedicates more support to a side because someone said "screw them both." People get driven to support Israel by belligerent shits like you. Not that you care. You're not trying to change any hearts or minds. You just want to spew hate. Makes you feel big and like you're contributing something somehow when you're too chickenshit and selfish to do anything real. Being a keyboard warrior is easy. Maybe you've made some spare change donations, maybe but sure as hell you haven't sacrificed a damn thing for it.It’s shit like this that enables support
Just your cognitive dissonance at work, protecting your ego from anything that might cause you even mild discomfort.That’s why I won’t let it go.
Hamas got the result they wanted. Israel's brutal atrocity-prone response is guaranteeing another two generations that will happily embrace violence against Israel and support for those that offer it. Everyone who has ever studied insurgencies recognized that playbook. What's really scary is that Israel's leadership seems to be deliberately courting that result too and that it may be for the same reason. The efforts to broaden the war certainly point in that direction. And it means sick fucks like you are getting getting exactly what you want because you'd never have any chance of seeing your goals met if the two sides could find peace. Even worse for you, you wouldn't have the opportunity to vent your spleen and pretend that it somehow signals virtue.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
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