WatOriginally Posted by Hazir
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Oh come onwith the "genocide" rhetoric.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
My definition of evil is 100% secular. I guess very very bad behavior is "evil", but lets not get the supernatural involved. I don't believe.
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
Yes. And the US "let" it because we don't actually have Israel on puppet strings, and the acts necessary to actually make them stop were not politically feasible in our domestic politics, particularly since Hamas and Gaza were the proximate cause of the latest round of active fighting, AND to a lot of Americans the Oct 7th attack felt like a kind of Israeli 9/11
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
More like Netanyahu knows he gets a black check in the West Bank if he listens to Trump. Biden couldn't offer anything similar.
Well that came true fast. I didn't know that was part of the deal.
Congratulations America
The idea was to highlight the hypocrisy and racism of Hazir. His nuanced view of evil presumably is that killing innocent civilians is bad, but makes an exception for Palestinians, and especially their children. There is no need to bring the supernatural into this. That said, its another interesting philosophical discussion if objective evil or morals are even real, if you are an atheist.
As long as you lick Israel's arsehole, you get a free pass. If you are Muslim/Arab or something, then clearly you are anti semitic. Just like incidents of mass shootings or terrorism, where a Muslim guys religion must be the reason for their violence, and not any sort of mental illness as is afforded to similar events by the Good Guys White People.
Are you smoking crack? Even your genocide loving friend can see that the US does have Israel on puppet strings.
That said, you might have a point. Netanyahu basically controls the US government, and even brags about it.
But on another point: did you hear about all the relased prisioners of war from Gaza who became pregnant because of rape?
Raaape. Raaaaaaape Gang rape!!
Nine months of war in Israel: How many Israeli captives have become pregnant from gang rape?
Chilling document reveals: Preparing for horrifying scenarios of pregnancies in Hamas captivity
Israel prepares for horror scenario that raped hostages held by Hamas may return home pregnant with a terrorist's child
Maybe they raped some of those 40 babies before they beheaded them?
On a serious note, are you disappointed that so far there has been zero evidence of rape? And that the hostages returned in good health?
Are you upset your favourite ethonstate treats its Palestinian hostages, including women and children, with barbaric vigour, including rape, starvation and torture?
Last edited by BluntHorse; 01-21-2025 at 04:54 PM.
Oh come on
Did you mean blank?
Oh come on
Don't you all just love how the pigtard can spit out the exact opposite claim back to back like this?
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Technically my initial analysis is correct. America can make the genocide stop with a single phone call. You are smoking crack if you think America has no control over the ZioNazi state. Hertzlestan would collapse in months without US support.
But you recognise that Netenyahu has unreal levels of control on US foreign policy?
You might need to accuse yourself of anti semanticism or something like that.
Thanks for letting us all know about the rape. Wonderful public service.
Interesting that this contradiction is the only possible point you have in all I have written. Congratulations! Go you!
Sadly, you are morally and intellectually impotent, along with your friend Hazir.
Last edited by BluntHorse; 01-22-2025 at 01:54 AM.
Oh come on
It's kinda silly for American leaders to willingly turn the US into the vassal of its vassal state. Role reversal can be a rewarding exercise in healthy relationships but this is clearly a deeply toxic relationship that harms all actors involved save for the utterly corrupt.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
The limits of the pressure the USA can put on Israel is an expression of internal politics in the USA itself.
Congratulations America
You're not wrong.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Yes. Almost all interventions were and are going to be a net loss in political capital and domestic power for US politicians. It is quite beyond any power we have to improve the situation there enough to actually generate fresh domestic support or placate any domestic interests, and any/every intervention is going to piss off/drive away some of the support currently behind any major political faction in the US. And since the margins between the two major parties have been so thin recently, the risk from that loss has been substantial.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Which is why you should support AIPAC being registered as a foreign agent rather than resigning yourself to Zionist interference in US politics being normal and something you can’t do anything about but be a spectator for.
You get a great deal. You:
Stop sending billions of tax payer money each year to the ZioNazi state and get to spend on things like healthcare and education for American people.
Stop getting involved in dumb wars for Israel like Iraq and getting American kids to die for Israel.
Stop being complicit in genocide.
Get to have an improved relationship with most of the world.
Get to avoid dumb fucks bringing bills to the House of Representatives saying “The service of a citizen of the United States in the Israeli Defense Forces shall be treated in the same manner as service in the uniformed services.”
Last edited by BluntHorse; 01-23-2025 at 12:14 AM.
Oh come on
I have no idea what they are thinking when broadcasting this.
Bragging about domicide and war crimes.
What a degenerate deranged society.
Don’t forget the testimony of the other guy who admits to crushing scores of Palestinians with his bulldozer. And the videos of this heinous crime online.
Link 1
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Last edited by BluntHorse; 01-23-2025 at 12:21 AM.
Oh come on
Ignoring for a moment that it's not one, if you think that would make a whit of difference you're even more blind and dumb than I thought. I said domestic support and interests and I meant it. It's about who is willing to change their voting behavior and why in response to various degrees of heavier hands against Israel.
So fucking delusional.Stop getting involved in dumb wars for Israel like Iraq and getting American kids to die for Israel.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
IDF said bombed apartments were Hezbollah base - but most killed were civilians
Ashraf was confident their family's apartment block would be a haven, so Julia joined him. But the next day, on 29 September, it was subject to this conflict's deadliest single Israeli attack. Struck by Israeli missiles, the entire six-storey building collapsed, killing 73 people.
The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) says the building was targeted because it was a Hezbollah "terrorist command centre" and it "eliminated" a Hezbollah commander. It added that "the overwhelming majority" of those killed in the strike were "confirmed to be terror operatives".
But a BBC Eye investigation verified the identity of 68 of the 73 people killed in the attack and uncovered evidence suggesting just six were linked to Hezbollah's military wing. None of those we identified appeared to hold a senior rank. The BBC's World Service also found that the other 62 were civilians - 23 of them children.
Among the dead were babies only a few months old, like Nouh Kobeissi in apartment -2B. In apartment -1C, school teacher Abeer Hallak was killed alongside her husband and three sons. Three floors above, Amal Hakawati died along with three generations of her family - her husband, children and two granddaughters.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
UN relief chief's briefing to the security council
Mr. President,
Children have been killed, starved and frozen to death.
They have been maimed, orphaned, separated from their family. Conservative estimates indicate that over 17,000 children are without their families in Gaza.
Some died before their first breath – perishing with their mothers in childbirth. An estimated 150,000 pregnant women and new mothers are in desperate need of health services.
Children have lost their schools and their education. Those with chronic illnesses have struggled to access the care they need, many unable to do so.
Many have faced sexual violence. Girls, who have endured the additional indignity of no menstrual care, have been left exposed and vulnerable.
One million children are in need of mental health and psychosocial support for depression, anxiety and suicidal thoughts, according to UNICEF.
A generation has been traumatized.
[...]
While we spare no effort to scale up in Gaza, we must also keep attention on the West Bank.
As we briefed this Council, since October 2023, the West Bank has witnessed record-high levels of casualties, displacement and access restrictions.
These trends have intensified since the announcement of the ceasefire.
Israeli settlers have attacked Palestinian villages, setting homes and properties on fire. Increased movement restrictions are impeding Palestinians’ ability to access basic services and livelihoods. Mass detentions are taking place across the West Bank.
Of particular concern is the situation in Jenin, where an Israeli military operation – helicopter gunfire and airstrikes alongside ground forces – has claimed lives and caused further destruction of basic infrastructure and displacement.
This follows the weeks-long operation by the Palestinian Authority, during which access restrictions and confrontations with armed Palestinians triggered displacement of some 2,000 families from the camp and claimed numerous lives.
While we spare no effort to scale up in Gaza, we must also keep attention on the West Bank.
As we briefed this Council, since October 2023, the West Bank has witnessed record-high levels of casualties, displacement and access restrictions.
These trends have intensified since the announcement of the ceasefire.
Israeli settlers have attacked Palestinian villages, setting homes and properties on fire. Increased movement restrictions are impeding Palestinians’ ability to access basic services and livelihoods. Mass detentions are taking place across the West Bank.
Of particular concern is the situation in Jenin, where an Israeli military operation – helicopter gunfire and airstrikes alongside ground forces – has claimed lives and caused further destruction of basic infrastructure and displacement.
This follows the weeks-long operation by the Palestinian Authority, during which access restrictions and confrontations with armed Palestinians triggered displacement of some 2,000 families from the camp and claimed numerous lives.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
I encourage you to understand words before you use them.
Netanyahu pushed for war with Iraq in 2002. The speech is online for you read and hear. The fucker even admits he wrote a book in 1986 where he advocates applying military force. He's pushing for more wars in the region to this day. He's totally horny for war with Iran.
Last year, US troops were sent to Israel to operate the THAAD anti-ballistic missile defence system. US carrier strike groups around Israel. This is putting US troops in the line of harm for the sake of Israel.
But you know what is really delusional? When racist fuckwhits who masturbate over Manifest Destiny are fed lies, suck them up, and then advocate for evil and unnecessary war.
I would bet my last Euro you believed in the WMD lies in Iraq. What happens when dickheads believe in obvious lies? War. Civilians murdered. Starvation. Countries destroyed.
You already have demonstrated you parrot both crudely and carefully crafted Zionist lies. I bet you were (or are!) into the following claims, beheaded babies, babies in ovens, rape of hostages and prisoners of war held by Palestinian factions, cut breasts thrown around, hamas bases under hospitals ect. We already know you are into the fake rape bullshit.
When I spoke about US control over Israel, you picked up a contradiction on my part and immediately came in your fucking pants. Congratulations for picking up an inconsistency. Yet you totally ignore Israeli crimes, including the Zionist riots for the right to rape Palestinians, as if they are the most normal ass thing in the world, and continue to amplify Israeli lies. Unable to condemn them with the vigour it deserves. Unable to acknowledge the impact of the lies and consequences for letting these go unchallenged.
It is you who is clearly deluded.
Jesus Fucking Christ.
Oh come on
So did I, I thought deposing Hussein and the Ba'athists would improve humanitarian conditions in Iraq enough to be worth it. I'm still not convinced that was incorrect. But I didn't cause the war anymore than Netanyahu nor Israel were the playmakers who caused that war. Asserting otherwise is conspiracy theory building off your demonizing.
No doubt he's the causal mastermind for all violence that's occurred in the Middle East (really, the entire globe) across my entire lifetime.The speech is online for you read and hear. The fucker even admits he wrote a book in 1986 where he advocates applying military force. He's pushing for more wars in the region to this day. He's totally horny for war with Iran.
I thought it was more likely than not they were still there, since the inspectors who had been there said they hadn't gotten them all before they were removed. But it wasn't my primary motivation. My disposition then (and still now though the inevitable reduction in the US' hyperpower status has rather degraded the ability to do engage in it) was liberal interventionism.I would bet my last Euro you believed in the WMD lies in Iraq.
Interesting. All those things happen regardless too. In fact, since we were just talking about Iraq, all those things were happening with Iraq prior to the US getting directly involved in '91, and internally in Iraq even afterward. It's. . . it's almost like you're spouting fatuously false platitudes and are full of shit.What happens when dickheads believe in obvious lies? War. Civilians murdered. Starvation. Countries destroyed.
You not believing any of those things certainly does make them more likely to be true. But I do strive to remember that even stopped clocks are right twice a day so your disbelief isn't actually proof, it's just highly suggestive that there's accuracy in those claims. (shrugs)You already have demonstrated you parrot both crudely and carefully crafted Zionist lies. I bet you were (or are!) into the following claims, beheaded babies, babies in ovens, rape of hostages and prisoners of war held by Palestinian factions, cut breasts thrown around, hamas bases under hospitals ect. We already know you are into the fake rape bullshit.
Coincidence, I was also watching gay porn at the time.When I spoke about US control over Israel, you picked up a contradiction on my part and immediately came in your fucking pants.
That's just you being blind to everything outside your own anus again. It's "a plague on BOTH your houses". If you had paid attention when you were going back through the 100 prior pages of this thread looking for content to denounce while creaming your own shorts, in the months prior to the Oct 7th attack I'd gotten so fed up with Israeli violence in the West Bank I was finally moving off the mutual plague position I've had for the last twenty years. Hamas managed to get it cemented back in place though, and a damn good thing. I'd hate to think I might have ended up even briefly sharing a position with you on the areaYet you totally ignore Israeli crimes
Your ire makes it all worthwhile. It's always a positive sign I managed to find the right path when pissants like you are frothing rabidly about it.Jesus Fucking Christ.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
If Israel isn't trying to provoke an intifada, I have no idea what their goal is.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/26/w...prisoners.htmlAfter bursting into the family’s compound around 5:30 p.m., the soldiers moved through the yard, where the gathering was held, without stopping to assess the situation or the people inside, the reporters said.
One soldier immediately used the muzzle of his loaded rifle to strike Aaron Boxerman, a Times reporter who happened to be standing close to the yard entrance. Before Mr. Boxerman had a chance to identify himself, the soldier hit him in the rib cage, leaving a large bruise.
A second Times reporter, Natan Odenheimer, then identified himself as a journalist, video recorded by The Times shows. The same soldier told Mr. Odenheimer that he didn’t care, using an expletive to underscore his point. The soldier then pointed his loaded rifle at Mr. Odenheimer again, the video shows.
The soldiers also aimed their rifles at other attendees. The video shows the attendees quickly complying with the soldiers’ commands and appearing to pose no threat. The soldiers yelled profanities at Mr. Zughayer’s relatives; and shoved his father in the chest.
Hope is the denial of reality
Sorry. She was shot in the head.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
I must say I am a little bit disappointed; I was against the invasion of Iraq. Not because I thought Saddam was such a great guy, but because it was a bit too obvious W was trying to finish daddy's job. And of course that the real enemy was the country to the south.So did I, I thought deposing Hussein and the Ba'athists would improve humanitarian conditions in Iraq enough to be worth it. I'm still not convinced that was incorrect. But I didn't cause the war anymore than Netanyahu nor Israel were the playmakers who caused that war. Asserting otherwise is conspiracy theory building off your demonizing.
No doubt he's the causal mastermind for all violence that's occurred in the Middle East (really, the entire globe) across my entire lifetime.
I thought it was more likely than not they were still there, since the inspectors who had been there said they hadn't gotten them all before they were removed. But it wasn't my primary motivation. My disposition then (and still now though the inevitable reduction in the US' hyperpower status has rather degraded the ability to do engage in it) was liberal interventionism.
Interesting. All those things happen regardless too. In fact, since we were just talking about Iraq, all those things were happening with Iraq prior to the US getting directly involved in '91, and internally in Iraq even afterward. It's. . . it's almost like you're spouting fatuously false platitudes and are full of shit.
You not believing any of those things certainly does make them more likely to be true. But I do strive to remember that even stopped clocks are right twice a day so your disbelief isn't actually proof, it's just highly suggestive that there's accuracy in those claims. (shrugs)
Coincidence, I was also watching gay porn at the time.
That's just you being blind to everything outside your own anus again. It's "a plague on BOTH your houses". If you had paid attention when you were going back through the 100 prior pages of this thread looking for content to denounce while creaming your own shorts, in the months prior to the Oct 7th attack I'd gotten so fed up with Israeli violence in the West Bank I was finally moving off the mutual plague position I've had for the last twenty years. Hamas managed to get it cemented back in place though, and a damn good thing. I'd hate to think I might have ended up even briefly sharing a position with you on the area
Your ire makes it all worthwhile. It's always a positive sign I managed to find the right path when pissants like you are frothing rabidly about it.
Congratulations America
Watching porn is for losers. Regardless of your sexuality.
Here is a nice gay person you can learn from. Try not to masturbate over him learning about the two types of Zionists. And avoid jerking one out over the Israeli rape video of Palestinians floating around the internet.
Oh come on
Hamas altered hostages' appearances before release – report
Despite nearly starving the hostages, Hamas used special techniques to make them look healthier and more energetic.
Hamas has reportedly implemented an “accelerated rehabilitation” process for the hostages before their release. The terrorist organization, according to a report from N12, provides hostages with nutritious food and stimulants shortly before their release to create the impression that they were treated well during captivity.
Zionist cognitive dissonance on full display here. Indie Nile in the video above (5:20) discusses this phenomenon in great detail.
Oh come on
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Still link dumping I see.
Congratulations America
I didn't realize you were an addict. Somehow not a surprise
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Some people are actually appalled by the ongoing war crimes and genocide, and are doing their bit to make sure you can never claim ‘I didn’t know’.
Oh come on
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