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  1. #2161
    Quote Originally Posted by BluntHorse View Post
    The moron is most influenced by the last guy he spoke to.

    But when he?s all said and done, he is bought and paid for. You don?t get lots of Zionist money for your presidential campaign and then not submit to their demands. It?s time to pay the piper.
    You do if you're Trump. He doesn't keep the deals he makes. Another reason I think it was at his behest. I sure as hell don't support any of this. Far from the first thing this regime has done that I hated, either internationally or domestically. And it won't be the last, since I think the wannabe-king is gonna drive us into a civil war and thoroughly hash us across the globe while doing so.
    Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"

  2. #2162
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    Though I agree with your characterization of his personality, I'm less sure about the characterization of the situation at hand.
    *shrugs* Maybe. I try hard to apply Hanlon's Razor when assessing things, but it's easy to get lost in the general insanity when you're in the belly of the beast.
    Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"

  3. #2163
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    You do if you're Trump. He doesn't keep the deals he makes. Another reason I think it was at his behest. I sure as hell don't support any of this. Far from the first thing this regime has done that I hated, either internationally or domestically. And it won't be the last, since I think the wannabe-king is gonna drive us into a civil war and thoroughly hash us across the globe while doing so.
    Doesn?t keep his deals apart for the ZioNazi child killing regime. He even pulls out chairs for its leader wanted on war criminal charges.

    Your politicians are bought and paid for by the Israel lobby. They brag about it.

    Your foreign policy went to the highest bidder?who then gets the money they spent on it back 40 fold in ?military aid'.

    It's not just Gaza and Palestine that are occupied but your congress too.

    The last few years have made it hard to ignore.
    Oh come on with the "genocide" rhetoric.


  4. #2164
    Manifestly Illegal: Israeli International Law Scholars on the Stated Plan to “Concentrate” the Palestinian Population in South Gaza


    Omer Bartov: I’m a Genocide Scholar. I Know It When I See It.

    The Israeli army is weaponizing Chinese-made drones to police expulsion orders across Gaza, with soldiers saying they deliberately target civilians so others will ‘learn’ not to return, an investigation reveals.


    Israeli soldier describes arbitrary killing of civilians in Gaza

    Ehud Olmert: forcing people into camp would be ethnic cleansing

    American citizen killed by settlers, IDF obsessed with shooting teen boys in the genitals:

    Six children killed by the IDF while queuing for water: https://news.sky.com/story/idf-blame...trike-13396138

    I'll just note that it takes a special kind of stupidity - incurable, lifelong stupidity born out of a total inability and unwillingness to connect with humanity - for a person to have ever believed that this is or has ever been the world's most moral army, or that this apartheid-addicted genocide-loving society is a decent one. Moral and social illiteracy.
    Last edited by Aimless; 07-15-2025 at 09:12 PM.
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  5. #2165
    Is Netanyahu just attacking every country in the middle east on a rota now?
    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
    The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
    When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
    I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun

  6. #2166
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    Is Netanyahu just attacking every country in the middle east on a rota now?
    everybody needs a hobby bro
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  7. #2167
    Felt cute. Attacked Syria.

  8. #2168
    I thought this thread - the most poplar on this forum with over 600k views - was about mocking people who think Israel is evil to be nutty and closet anti-semites.

    Them damn people advocating for Palestinian right — always making shit up and accusing Israel of morally abhorrent things because it's the hip thing to do or smthn. So many of you have said in this venerable thread.

    Where is Dreadnaught? Where is Wiggin? Israel needs you and your witty hasbara.

    Where is RandBlade to remind us everything is Hamas propaganda and that Palestinians don’t qualify for human rights?

    Where are people to remind us that it was a ‘land for a people for a people without a land’?

    Also, who gives a fuck? People who have not changed their views since this holocaust has started will not do so, even if they see Zionists shoving Palestinians into lit ovens alive (like they did in Deir Yasin in 1948, according to the testimony of a then 12 year old Fahim Zaydan). And definitely not after watching videos of Palestinian doctors raped to death in Sde Teiman.

    Call them what they are. ZioNazis.

    Pure evil.
    Oh come on with the "genocide" rhetoric.


  9. #2169
    To the people who still think Israel's war is a good idea: what's an acceptable number of children that could starve to death to allow Israel to achieve its goals?

  10. #2170
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    To the people who still think Israel's war is a good idea: what's an acceptable number of children that could starve to death to allow Israel to achieve its goals?
    I'm wondering what the GOAL is? Make Israeli citizens safe from terrorist attack? Or is it a broader, lets say final, solution to the Palestinian Problem? Looking like the latter these days.
    The Rules
    Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
    Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
    Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)

  11. #2171
    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    I'm wondering what the GOAL is? Make Israeli citizens safe from terrorist attack? Or is it a broader, lets say final, solution to the Palestinian Problem? Looking like the latter these days.
    I said on day 1 that Israel can't accomplish any of their stated objectives. This is all about revenge and prolonging the war to allow Netanyahu to stay in power.

    I don't think Israel is trying to wipe out the Palestinians, but neither does it consider mass killing of civilians a problem. It's willing to massacre hundreds to achieve minor military goals.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  12. #2172
    They might not be aiming to personally execute every single Palestinian, but I don't think it's a stretch to say they don't want any of them living in Gaza and are conducting the war accordingly. Ethnic cleansing is the goal and always has been.
    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
    The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
    When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
    I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun

  13. #2173
    I do think it's the goal of some senior Israeli officials (including Netanyahu) to force all Palestinians to leave Gaza. Whether that's military policy is harder to say. I don't think Netanyahu can be open about such a policy without creating bigger rifts in the government and military.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  14. #2174
    They've been talking about it since almost the beginning ('rolling out the second nakba') and shopping around for countries to take the Gazans, but I guess it was all written off as whatever the Zionist version of locker room talk is.
    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
    The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
    When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
    I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun

  15. #2175
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I do think it's the goal of some senior Israeli officials (including Netanyahu) to force all Palestinians to leave Gaza. Whether that's military policy is harder to say. I don't think Netanyahu can be open about such a policy without creating bigger rifts in the government and military.
    When cabinet members openly state that the goal is ethnic cleansing, and the military is happy to go along with it, and troops appear to act in accordance with that goal, the question has been answered to my satisfaction. The only question that may still divide them is that of how frankly they should communicate with the outside world.
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  16. #2176
    Dreadnaught, do you know this Rabbi Seven Burg?

    He tells the story of Avraham Azulay who was ‘brutally murdered in Gaza’.

    [QUOTE]These are the kinds of losses we’ve read about in Holocaust books and memorials—entire families decimated, young lives cut down, a generation’s hope extinguished before it could fully bloom. This isn’t just a personal tragedy. This is a biblical loss Yitzhar—a moment of communal mourning that echoes across our history and our souls.[/QUOTE

    Oy veyyy. It was a holocaust! An entire family decimated! The losses are biblical!

    Avraham was just a top guy. He just wanted to destroy Palestinians houses so they could never return.




    Azulay’s heroic efforts to fight against the Khamas were recounted. His bravery was celebrated. It was told that he went down fighting heroically.

    But unfortunately for Israel, everytime someone has a camera in their hands, events that contradict the Zionist narrive seems to be recorded.

    The dude died like a little bitch.



    So fuck your shitty lying murdererous ethnostate committing a holocaust against Palestinians.

    Does this upset you? Go donate to the IDF. Or maybe if you are smart, support AIPAC and help them buy American politicians so they can send everyone elses tax dollars to IsraHell.


    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    After someone tells a people who were fleeing genocide to go back "home" to the location of said genocide, I just can't take anything they say credibly.
    So you welcome Palestinians and Gazans to the US now?
    Oh come on with the "genocide" rhetoric.


  17. #2177
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  18. #2178
    Support for the center-left/left (excluding the Arab parties) has tripled...from 3% to 9%. Things aren't changing any time soon.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  19. #2179
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post

    Next you're going to tell us there was no systematic mass rapes on October 7th and Hamas doesn't actually use human shields.

    And then you will invert Zionist reality and tell us that the IDF rapes Palestinians and Israeli society rapes former hostages, and that the IDF actually has a name for its program of use of human shields - the mosquito protocol.

    Why does everyone hate the j00z.

    Where is Randblade to accuse you of antisemitism?
    Oh come on with the "genocide" rhetoric.


  20. #2180
    It's almost funny how you don't realize that you're exactly the same as the people you criticize.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  21. #2181
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    It's almost funny how you don't realize that you're exactly the same as the people you criticize.
    The thing that makes you uncomfortable is that you think Israel has somehow recently changed to become what it is now. It has not. It was always like this, but on a much lower intensity. Just enough murder and theft to stay under the radar for most of the world, using plausible deniability to defend Israel, whilst arguing 'it's complicated', forwarding false narratives about it being a 'land without a people for a people without a land' and that 'it has been going on for thousands of years' and feeding off the worlds guilt for the holocaust.

    The vast majority of the force of my criticism has been leveled at Zionism as a philosophy, adherents Zionists of all religions but in particular Ashkenazi Zionist Jews who directly benefit from the oppression of Palestinians. Especially given what happened to their forebears at the hands of the European. I also criticize without reservation, Jewish settlers, IDF child murderer soldiers, and Western politicians who are complicit for what ever reason they might have.

    Guess how much blood I have on my hands.
    Guess how many peoples houses or land I have stolen.
    Guess how many lies I have spread to excuse the actions of an ethnostate.

    The answer is zero.

    I will note I?ve been pretty respectful to you given that you are an unrepentant Zionist with a history of spreading false Zionist talking points, whitewashing Israel?s crimes, who now partakes in hand-wringing about war crimes undeniably committed on an hourly basis by your favorite ethnostate. I?ve invited you to publicly revise your views citing your previous comments. You still lack the moral courage to redeem yourself by denouncing the fascist ideology that you have been brainwashed with. I struggle to understand how the vast intellect you have been blessed with benefits you other than a nice position and a good paycheck.

    I would invite you to engage in anything I have said in good faith, but I know better.

    But if leveling a baseless accusation makes you feel better, well, okay, I guess.

    I do have hope that the shitty ethnostate of Israel is replaced with a single state between the river and the sea where everyone is treated as an equal, be they Christian, Jew, Muslim or otherwise. Am I denying reality?
    Oh come on with the "genocide" rhetoric.


  22. #2182
    Former Knesset speaker and former chair of the... what the fuck... World Zionist Organization (do not check out the "Controversies" section:

    We need one million Jews. Less than ten percent of the global Jewish population to file a joint appeal to the International Court of Justice in The Hague. A collective legal complaint against the State of Israel for crimes against humanity committed in our name and under the false banner of our Jewish identity.

    It is time to say: enough!

    Two suns will rise on that day. One will shine within the Jewish firmament, casting light on our inner darkness and replacing fanaticism with moral clarity. The other will shine across the world, declaring that among Jews there are those who resemble the worst criminals of the nations and there are those who, without fear or favor, stand against them.

    Yes, Hamas committed heinous crimes against humanity. But none of that justifies Israel’s actions in Gaza since.

    This is a moment of reckoning. We must not run from it.

    So this is my plea:

    If you are an individual, a community, or a Jewish organization anywhere in the world, and you are shaken by what Israel is doing; if you align yourself with the values of humanistic Judaism, with basic moral decency and collective responsibility, join this historic initiative. Not by turning to weapons or power structures, but to the conscience of humanity. Turn to The Hague.

    In our appeal, we shall declare: We will not allow the State of Israel, which systematically inflicts violence upon a civilian population, to speak in our name. We will not allow Judaism to be a cover for crimes. This is not a rejection of our people it is a defense of its soul. Not destruction but repair.
    https://substack.com/home/post/p-170436797
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  23. #2183
    https://bsky.app/profile/chadbourn.b.../3lw3dmx5wcc2l

    "BBC International Editor Jeremy Bowen has confirmed that the entire Al Jazeera team in Gaza City has been killed."

    Just another day in Gaza.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  24. #2184
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    Former Knesset speaker and former chair of the... what the fuck... World Zionist Organization (do not check out the "Controversies" section:

    https://substack.com/home/post/p-170436797
    Dude just basically crossed many of the illustrations of the IHRA working definition of antisemitism.

    I wonder if it is okay to label him a ’self hating Jew’.


    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    https://bsky.app/profile/chadbourn.b.../3lw3dmx5wcc2l

    "BBC International Editor Jeremy Bowen has confirmed that the entire Al Jazeera team in Gaza City has been killed."

    Just another day in Gaza.
    Land for a people for a people without a land, right?

    Must be harrowing seeing all the things that could potentially affect the long term viability of your favorite settler colonial Jewish Supremacist ethnostate.

    In contrast, people like Aimless and Steely’s concern seems to stem from the fact that Palestinians are human and deserving of equal right as Zionist Jews.

    I’m still waiting for you to flesh out how I am supposedly exactly the same as the ZioNazis I criticize.
    Oh come on with the "genocide" rhetoric.


  25. #2185
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    https://bsky.app/profile/chadbourn.b.../3lw3dmx5wcc2l

    "BBC International Editor Jeremy Bowen has confirmed that the entire Al Jazeera team in Gaza City has been killed."

    Just another day in Gaza.
    And I'm sure it was deliberate. And somehow it will still be the Israeli's honestly bewildered and wondering what is "wrong with people" when no one cares anymore once the crop they've sown grows and eats them alive.
    Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"

  26. #2186
    People are going to care, but not in the way Israelis want. There's going to be hell to pay internationally once the current crop of politicians from the West retire.

    As for the occupied territories: Israel learned valuable lessons from Assad and Putin. There won't be another intifada (for a while at least) because Israel is willing to massacre anyone even considering it. Needless to say, Israel has better intel and technology than Assad.

  27. #2187
    There's going to be hell to pay internationally once the current crop of politicians from the West retire.
    How/why?
    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
    The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
    When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
    I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun

  28. #2188
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    How/why?
    Because Israel is toxic to most people under 40. And the generation brought up during a time when the Holocaust was fresh in everyone's minds isn't going to be around to make any counterarguments. If Israel keeps up its actions, there's going to be a whole generation for whom Israel is public enemy #1 (and deservedly so; the only country today with both the ability and willingness to use the same amount of violence against civilians in China).
    Hope is the denial of reality

  29. #2189
    Future world leaders aren't going to suddenly start running foreign policy based on popular opinion or moral considerations, and global diplomacy is already more explicitly transactional than it was 10-20 years ago. Literally no one is going lift a finger exact a price from Israel for something that will have happened 10-20 years in the past.
    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
    The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
    When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
    I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun

  30. #2190
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    Future world leaders aren't going to suddenly start running foreign policy based on popular opinion or moral considerations, and global diplomacy is already more explicitly transactional than it was 10-20 years ago. Literally no one is going lift a finger exact a price from Israel for something that will have happened 10-20 years in the past.
    Check out 'The generation gap in opinions toward Israel'. The older people who were fed a curated diet of lies and one sided propaganda will die out. Younger people who increasingly use social media for news will replace them. Much harder to control that news source. No amount of hasbara budget will work against it. This is why you must murder the journalists and then lie about them to discredit them.

    The question is if there will be enough people who know and care to actually affect change at policy level in the long run.

    The whole New York mayoral election thing shows that an Israel First thing might become a liability. Just need more of the US to pivot away from bat shit crazy dispensationalism to accelerate this trend.

    What I find interesting is the awakening of a significant portion of US citizenry who are demanding that their tax dollars not be sent to the settler colonial ethnostate. US debt is out of control as it is without having to fund a genocide.
    Oh come on with the "genocide" rhetoric.


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