Yeah, yeah, whatever. I'm not trying to start that whole thing up again, but he doesn't get to go around saying "I don't do crazy shit to score points in a debate" after claiming to be a Latin American guerrilla, to score points in a debate.
Yeah, yeah, whatever. I'm not trying to start that whole thing up again, but he doesn't get to go around saying "I don't do crazy shit to score points in a debate" after claiming to be a Latin American guerrilla, to score points in a debate.
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-- Thomas Jefferson: American Founding Father, clairvoyant and seditious traitor.
Maybe that was his units motto "Do whatever it takes". Sounds like something macho and fighty.
"Son," he said without preamble, "never trust a man who doesn't drink, because he's probably a self-righteous sort, a man who thinks he knows right from wrong all the time. Some of them are good men, but in the name of goodness, they cause most of the suffering in the world. They're the judges, the meddlers. And, son, never trust a man who drinks but refuses to get drunk. They're usually afraid of something deep down inside, either that they're a coward or a fool or mean and violent. You can't trust a man who's afraid of himself. But sometimes, son, you can trust a man who occasionally kneels before a toilet. The chances are that he is learning something about humility and his natural human foolishness, about how to survive himself. It's damned hard for a man to take himself too seriously when he's heaving his guts into a dirty toilet bowl.
Nah, Nicaragua's a Spanish speaking country... so probably something like:Originally Posted by Spawnie
Lo que sea necesario hacer golpe y matar a los comunistas
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-- Thomas Jefferson: American Founding Father, clairvoyant and seditious traitor.
Why do you insist on trolling, Cain? Go away. You're just like Young Mage, only a little older. Clearly you want attention. Go get it someplace else. I count at least 4 places where you've trolled me today. Cut it out.
It's not trolling to bring up relevant history, which, by the way, you keep making relevant.
Seriously, you cut out this delusion of yours that you don't say any nutty thing you can think of to score points in an argument, and I won't have an opening to bring up all the nutty things you've said in the past to score points in an argument.
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-- Thomas Jefferson: American Founding Father, clairvoyant and seditious traitor.
Guys. Can we not start this again?
Otherwise I'll just close the thread.
Texas! Everything is big in Texas? They have big football teams, big ranches, big egos. When I think of Texas I think of airport hubs that I'm forced into. Dallas or Houston. That makes me think of big dumb guys playing with a pigskin, in big huge stadiums, with cheerleaders with big boobs.
Years ago I saw a Cadillac with longhorns on the dash, the driver wore a big Stetson hat, the horn was loud and went Buy OOOO Gah. We laughed. Most of the movies from my childhood revolved around the big state of Texas, and Texan attitudes. But my dad liked westerns. Clint Eastwood might be a Malibu man, but I still think of him as a Texan. The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.
I think the movies were filmed in Arizona, but whatever.
Texas show down, Texas two step, Texas toast, Texas Tea (black tea = oil). We even have steak cuts named Texas Cowboy Sirloin.
I didn't start shit Dread, so don't you go acting like I did. I was interacting with Loki, and Cain saw fit to troll in this thread and about 4 others yesterday. I did nothing to precipitate that.
What are you, a frackin' Chrisitian? You and your radical egalitarian commie love-fest beliefs.
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
Can you point me to the part of the Bible where Jesus says, "don't look after your fellow man, but have the government do it instead"?What are you, a frackin' Chrisitian? You and your radical egalitarian commie love-fest beliefs
Hope is the denial of reality
You guys are idiots.
What the hell are you talking about?
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
Dread can't afford to financially help a neighbor, understandable. I'm curious how much time he has donated to local charities, cause I must have missed those happy postings. Not that i want to accuse him of only volunteering for the bragging rights.
Or if that tips the "stranger" scale, how many times Dread has run errands, or babysat for said neighbor.
Read the context of what Nessus said. Apparently, Jesus wants us to have the government help those in need.Are you people getting this from the Marxist edition of the Bible? There's nothing unchristian in not wanting to give money to the government, who would supposedly use that money to help people. Last I checked, Christianity encourages private charity.
Hope is the denial of reality
No, Nessus was appealing to the humanist spirit of people helping people. *I* brought up the Christian thing because A. I know Nessus is atheist and B. Because Christianity often makes those brother on brother appeals and C. Jesus professed true communist ideals. (more or less)Read the context of what Nessus said. Apparently, Jesus wants us to have the government help those in need.
Spoiler:
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
It also encourages supporting your government...
Faith is Hope (see Loki's sig for details)
If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?
No, it doesn't. It says to do the bare minimum to stay within the letter of the law, and even then, only as long as it doesn't violate your faith.
Jesus said that rich people should give money to poor people. Nowhere is the government mentioned.
Hope is the denial of reality
You like "reading" "context", don't youRead the context of what Nessus said. Apparently, Jesus wants us to have the government help those in need.
In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
The "render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's" is a reference to the Roman Empire, which was the government at the time. So, that is SOMEWHERE, which is enough to kick sand on your salty feet, boy.
Now, that can be *understood* in a number of ways. My thought was always that Jesus had no use for wealth, but it could also have been a veiled attack on the Roman occupiers. It could also be an instruction to seek poverty, because you know nobody with money can get into heaven *or* through the eye of a needle. It could also be easily understood as a direct instruction to *pay your taxes.* Probably not, though, since references to tax collectors were on the level of those to whores and other evil people.
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
Do you not understand the difference between saying someone should to the bare minimum to follow the law and actually encouraging that behavior? It takes a truly warped reading of the Bible to suggest that it wants people to make the government more powerful or to have the government help those in need. Jesus is pretty explicit about saying that people should give directly to those in need.
Hope is the denial of reality
#1. Are you conceding there is a reference to government SOMEWHERE in the bible? I want my points.
#2. *Truly warped reading of the Bible?* Seriously? Are you fucking kidding me? You think *MY* various kickings around up there are anywhere in the same league as the shit religous people get out of that mess?Lordy! You owe me a few more points, methinks.
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
Nobody but you made a reference to increasing government power.
Faith is Hope (see Loki's sig for details)
If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?
Wait, I didn't see Nessie say this. Did I miss something? And you're taking something Nessie said seriously? Really?Read the context of what Nessus said. Apparently, Jesus wants us to have the government help those in need.
And then you extrapolated that to "you people?"Are you people getting this from the Marxist edition of the Bible?
Loki, how many ways can you go wrong? You twist and distort what people post, you take Nessie comments seriously, when more than half Ness posts are ironic, and then you generalize that twisted message to other posters? Are you having yourself a bogasm there?
How can you claim that Christianity encourages private charity? Last I checked the Bible, it was charity, period. Anything else is your personal inference.Last I checked, Christianity encourages private charity.
Point me to the part of the Bible that says that charity should be done by anyone other than private individuals. Are you seriously claiming that Jesus wanted people to give charity through the Roman government?
Hope is the denial of reality
Point me to the part that says it needs to be direct rather than indirect.
The same place it encourages you to support your government.
Faith is Hope (see Loki's sig for details)
If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?
Point me to the part that says that pink unicorns don't exist.
Hope is the denial of reality
Or that dinosaurs existed!
In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
Nessus sort of rhymes with Texas. Sort of. Enough for bad poetry, surely. Jesus doesn't love Loki. Did you know?
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
Loki's not very lovable when he flares up
In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
Somehow, I think Jesus just cared that you helped your neighbor, and not so much the logistics of how you did so.
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