Panic, Purge or Patience?

[GGT]

Bust up the Banks?

That's back on topic? Someone made a typo, so let's bust up the banks. While we're at it, why don't we nuke all the Malaria-carrying mosquitoes?

Then you tell me what the title of this thread should have been. FCIC, FinReg, Consumer Confidence, Market Manipulations, Global Greed, Do You Know Where Your Money Is, Behavioral Bubbles....?

Go ahead and tie it all together under one heading (I know I suck at titles) to keep it under one moving, dynamic thread instead of starting a bunch of new ones. The first sub-topic just happened to be about high frequency trading after Thursdays dump down, but Panic, Purge and Patience are behavioral terms. And I like alliterations.


edit---Guns, Geese, and Gold ??

[CitizenCain]

Then you tell me what the title of this thread should have been.

"More of GGT panicking about stuff she doesn't understand."

Then, at least, your most recent article would be on-topic.

[GGT]

"More of GGT panicking about stuff she doesn't understand."

Then, at least, your most recent article would be on-topic.

I saw the Panic and thought about the Purge. But I'm a Patient Person.

Don't sell yourself short by riding that high horse of yours, Cain. People aren't as stupid as you want to think. You'll have to find some other way to continue your hatred of others. In fact, you're picking the Easy Button while dissing anyone else doing the same.

[CitizenCain]

What? What the hell does any of that have to do with you running around like Chicken Little based on a fundamental ignorance about how the financial systems in our world work?

[EyeKhan]

Not me, at least not until the geese stop frequenting my pasture.

The hungry month doesn't start until the geese fly south and the dogs, cats and rats have all been eaten.

[GGT]

What? What the hell does any of that have to do with you running around like Chicken Little based on a fundamental ignorance about how the financial systems in our world work?

Hello? I actually wanted to separate the technicals from the fundamentals, but they seem inextricably linked. At least as far as media links I can share as the starting point.

What don't you "get", that Khan and Being seem to "get"?

[Being]

The hungry month doesn't start until the geese fly south and the dogs, cats and rats have all been eaten.

Geese are here year round. Must be something to do with being at the center of their migration route??? The bigger problem for me will come when I need to compete with the neighbors for that food source. Goose sausage is good and I don't think any of them have discovered that yet.

[CitizenCain]

What don't you "get", that Khan and Being seem to "get"?

A daily suppository of semen? The joys of scare-mongering? Pleasure from mental masturbation?

Beats me.

(Though, for the record, they don't seem to be "getting it" any more than I am, as much as they're just posting in a tangential conversation to what you're blathering about.)

Geese are here year round. Must be something to do with being at the center of their migration route??? The bigger problem for me will come when I need to compete with the neighbors for that food source. Goose sausage is good and I don't think any of them have discovered that yet.

I'm sure it's highly illegal to discharge a firearm within city limits (or anywhere in California, without a $10,000 state "firearms discharge license" ), and you'd surely be kicked out of the secret liberal alliance for even owning one... so if you're gonna shoot some geese, at least do it right. Cook it like a Thanksgiving turkey (but be sure to put it on a spit, or one of those pans which allows the grease to drain off into a separate area - there's a fuckload of grease in those things), with a nice glaze, and an a l'orange sauce. Maybe garnish it with something kind of tart, like cranberries, and you've got yourself a feast! Oh, and wild rice... I bet that would go great with a well cooked goose.

Just because it's the end of the world is no reason to stop eating well!

[Being]

I'm sure it's highly illegal to discharge a firearm within city limits (or anywhere in California, without a $10,000 state "firearms discharge license" ), and you'd surely be kicked out of the secret liberal alliance for even owning one... so if you're gonna shoot some geese, at least do it right. Cook it like a Thanksgiving turkey (but be sure to put it on a spit, or one of those pans which allows the grease to drain off into a separate area - there's a fuckload of grease in those things), with a nice glaze, and an a l'orange sauce. Maybe garnish it with something kind of tart, like cranberries, and you've got yourself a feast! Oh, and wild rice... I bet that would go great with a well cooked goose.

Just because it's the end of the world is no reason to stop eating well!

I'm out in the country and besides, I use a wrist rocket (slingshot) or a pellet gun. Geese are easy to kill with a headshot (they let you get so close you can almost kick them). I bet you can knock them out cold with one of those plastic pellet guns.

[GGT]

A daily suppository of semen? The joys of scare-mongering? Pleasure from mental masturbation?

Beats me.

Just Beat It, then.

(Though, for the record, they don't seem to be "getting it" any more than I am, as much as they're just posting in a tangential conversation to what you're blathering about.)

Yes, yes they do "get it". You call it blather, then proceed to blather.....

{snip blather}

Just because it's the end of the world is no reason to stop eating well!

Now now, you were the one using an accusatory tone about Chicken Little? Then you go on to blather about Goose a l'orange sauce? That's for duck. But fowl is food, for the end of the world, and what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Stop pretending you don't "get it".

[CitizenCain]

I'm out in the country and besides, I use a wrist rocket (slingshot) or a pellet gun. Geese are easy to kill with a headshot (they let you get so close you can almost kick them). I bet you can knock them out cold with one of those plastic pellet guns.

Fair enough. I only ask that you not let your lack of firepower result in a lack of fine dining.

Seriously, goose "sausage" sounds disgusting, which is a travesty, given how tasty a well-cooked goose can actually be.

Just Beat It, then.

While masturbation is fun, and Michale Jackson is enjoyable, I don't think either one has anything to do with this discussion... unless you're now claiming that the global financial markets are going to collapse because the trader who made the typo did so, because he was jacking off while listening to the Thriller album.

Now now, you were the one using an accusatory tone about Chicken Little? Then you go on to blather about Goose a l'orange sauce? That's for duck. But fowl is food, for the end of the world, and what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Shows what you know about fine cooking. While duck a l'orange is a traditional dish in fine French cuisine, a l'orange sauces are hardly restricted to just ducks. (Especially given the similarities in tastes between duck and goose.)

Besides which, French cuisine has about as much to do with the topic of this Chicken Little thread as busting up the banks does... like you, yourself admitted. A tasty fowl is a tasty fowl, whereas banks are not tasty.

Stop pretending you don't "get it".

I really don't. I thought I did, with you just playing Chicken Little over every financial development you don't understand, but allegedly, that's not it, so I'm back to not "getting it," and talking about geese.

Oh well.

Qui seras, seras.

[EyeKhan]

Geese are here year round. Must be something to do with being at the center of their migration route??? The bigger problem for me will come when I need to compete with the neighbors for that food source. Goose sausage is good and I don't think any of them have discovered that yet.

If there's not enough geese to support everyone, then you're going to have to fight over them. (that's the murder part) And if the geese stop coming around or you eat them all, then comes the cannibalism. There's far more man meat around than goose meat, I'm sure.

[Being]

If there's not enough geese to support everyone, then you're going to have to fight over them.

Yeah, I might need more firepower for that. *Looking up next nearby gunshow*

[EyeKhan]

I'm sure it's highly illegal to discharge a firearm within city limits (or anywhere in California, without a $10,000 state "firearms discharge license" ), and you'd surely be kicked out of the secret liberal alliance for even owning one... so if you're gonna shoot some geese, at least do it right. Cook it like a Thanksgiving turkey (but be sure to put it on a spit, or one of those pans which allows the grease to drain off into a separate area - there's a fuckload of grease in those things), with a nice glaze, and an a l'orange sauce. Maybe garnish it with something kind of tart, like cranberries, and you've got yourself a feast! Oh, and wild rice... I bet that would go great with a well cooked goose.

Just because it's the end of the world is no reason to stop eating well!

#1. Might want to keep that grease - mix it with some dirt or grass for some last ditch nutrition just before you get around to eating your neighbors.

#2. Probably all the granberries will have been eaten by them, but I guess you never know.

#3. How'd you find out about the secret liberal alliance. I've not seen you in the piccy thread, but I'm sure you wouldn't get in the door.

[EyeKhan]

Seriously, goose "sausage" sounds disgusting, which is a travesty, given how tasty a well-cooked goose can actually be.

Add enough hunger and anything will be tasty. (the universal spice... )

[CitizenCain]

#1. Might want to keep that grease - mix it with some dirt or grass for some last ditch nutrition just before you get around to eating your neighbors.

Agreed. That's why it's preferable to let it drain off into one of those pans that has a cavity to collect greasy run-off.

Also, less chance of starting a grease fire, but sure, in contrast to cannibalism, grease fires don't seem all that bad.

#2. Probably all the granberries will have been eaten by them, but I guess you never know.

So, garnish the goose with bits of people who ate all the cranberries. Like I said, anything that tastes tart will do. Cranberries, cranky old people, a pinch of battery acid, whatever.

#3. How'd you find out about the secret liberal alliance. I've not seen you in the piccy thread, but I'm sure you wouldn't get in the door.

Oh, I can pull off the hippie look when I grow my hair long. Besides which, I think the guys guarding the door at your last meeting were pretty baked - one of them started licking my knee, and the other one said something about covering me in chocolate sauce and nibbling on me all night.

Add enough hunger and anything will be tasty. (the universal spice... )

I dunno, I think there's a limit.

For example, in WWII, hungry Russians received thousands of tonnes of Spam, and found it tasty. However, the starving Russians trapped in Stalingrad during that city's siege did not (strangely enough) find drywall and plaster tasty, despite mixing it with a little wheat and trying to make it into bread before eating it.

[Being]

Pork fat and kosher salt?

Smoked Canada Goose Sausage

[GGT]

Fair enough. I only ask that you not let your lack of firepower result in a lack of fine dining.

Seriously, goose "sausage" sounds disgusting, which is a travesty, given how tasty a well-cooked goose can actually be.



While masturbation is fun, and Michale Jackson is enjoyable, I don't think either one has anything to do with this discussion... unless you're now claiming that the global financial markets are going to collapse because the trader who made the typo did so, because he was jacking off while listening to the Thriller album.



Shows what you know about fine cooking. While duck a l'orange is a traditional dish in fine French cuisine, a l'orange sauces are hardly restricted to just ducks. (Especially given the similarities in tastes between duck and goose.)

Besides which, French cuisine has about as much to do with the topic of this Chicken Little thread as busting up the banks does... like you, yourself admitted. A tasty fowl is a tasty fowl, whereas banks are not tasty.



I really don't. I thought I did, with you just playing Chicken Little over every financial development you don't understand, but allegedly, that's not it, so I'm back to not "getting it," and talking about geese.

Oh well.

Qui seras, seras.

Que. Didn't Canadian Francophiles teach you anything?

I understand the financial developments quite well, merci. It's a shadow game. There is no there there. Being a realist isn't the same as being stupid. But you go ahead and continue on your rant against hating everyone. That seems to work for you.


Our geese are either migrant and transitory, or they're like the gulls that took up residence in mall parking lots away from the sea. Some Canadian geese decided to stay in the ponds around soccer fields, as long as people feed them. Lottsa goose poop. We have a better food source from deer, as they get forced out by development. You can pick these poor things off with air soft pellets or sling shots, at least the three-legged hobbled ones that survived a car crash.

[GGT]

#2. Probably all the granberries will have been eaten by them, but I guess you never know.

You're a Freudian cannibal!

[CitizenCain]

Que. Didn't Canadian Francophiles teach you anything?

No.

Anyway, as pronounced in that famous-ish old song, it's clearly "qui" (sounding almost like the English word "key") and not "que" (which sounds kind of like... the first syllable in the word "cook").

Regardless of the fact that "que seras seras" is actually grammatically correct and means ~ "whatever will be, will be," I've always heard it sung as "qui seras, seras," meaning ~"whoever will be, will be." Makes more sense that way anyway, even if it a blatant Hamlet rip off. England should so totally sue for copyright infringement.

I understand the financial developments quite well, merci.

No, you really don't.

Like Loki pointed out, you seem to be running around crusading against the status quo, without understanding it, simply because... well, the status quo scares you, or something.

[GGT]

No, it's a Doris Day song. Que = Kay. And as Americans know, all kisses begin with Kay.

I don't like the "status quo" because it's not working. It's the triple PhDs that have their heads up their asses, not the lay person. That's why I linked the thing about busting banks. Roubini is a pointy head outside of mainstream, who can frame the argument with fancy criticisms about quantitative easing, monetary policy. Everyone's a fucking Keyensian now, woo woo.

[CitizenCain]

No, it's a Doris Day song. Que = Kay.

Not in French, it doesn't. "Que" isn't pronounced with a "hard" 'a', (like "Kay" is) but more like a "soft" 'e' - as I said, the first syllable in "cook" is a close representation, but "Kay" is not.

(Wait, "cook" only has one syllable, doesn't it? I mean like "cook," but without the 'k' sound at the end.)

I don't like the "status quo" because it's not working.

Oh, indeed. The markets recovering from a typo in 16 minutes is a clear indication that the sky is falling.

It's the triple PhDs that have their heads up their asses, not the lay person.

Everyone's a fucking Keyensian now, woo woo.

If that's not proof that "everyone" has their head up their asses, nothing is. Lay people wanting to return to discredited economic theories based on political promises of free shit is pretty head-up-ass, you know.

[Loki]

Everyone in the government is a Keynesian because Keynesianism states that the government does and should control the economy.

[GGT]

Not in French, it doesn't. "Que" isn't pronounced with a "hard" 'a', (like "Kay" is) but more like a "soft" 'e' - as I said, the first syllable in "cook" is a close representation, but "Kay" is not.

(Wait, "cook" only has one syllable, doesn't it? I mean like "cook," but without the 'k' sound at the end.)

You're asking ME? When I took (American) French, que was pronounced kay. But they have hyphenated things like que plus est = q'est? The Spanish qui is pronounced key.

Oh, indeed. The markets recovering from a typo in 16 minutes is a clear indication that the sky is falling.

A thousand point fall in twenty minutes is a clear indication that something isn't working as intended, yes.

If that's not proof that "everyone" has their head up their asses, nothing is. Lay people wanting to return to discredited economic theories based on political promises of free shit is pretty head-up-ass, you know.

I submit that it's not lay people who are wanting to return to "discredited economic theories". Academics would say lay people don't even KNOW the theories. Average Joe has to live paycheck-to-paycheck, Middle Jane has to balance a checkbook. Some of the people have been fooled by "free shit" for a while, but I blame the banksters and politicians for that. The gig is up.

[GGT]

Everyone in the government is a Keynesian because Keynesianism states that the government does and should control the economy.

Right, and we have a Freeeee market, not a planned economy.

[CitizenCain]

You're asking ME? When I took (American) French, que was pronounced kay. But they have hyphenated things like que plus est = q'est?

Yes, but that's because "est" is pronounced as "ay" in French.

Anyway, here's a link to how "que" is *supposed* to sound - click the play button by the audio link.

The Spanish qui is pronounced key.

As is the French "qui."

A thousand point fall in twenty minutes is a clear indication that something isn't working as intended, yes.

Actually, by the 20 minute mark, everything was back to where it started, so nice try, but wrong.

I submit that it's not lay people who are wanting to return to "discredited economic theories".

Well, you're wrong. They may not actually know the name of the theory, or even that it ever was an economic theory, but it's still what they want to see - guvmint, create jobs and fix everything!!!

And yes, that's *very* head-up-ass.

[Flixy]

You're asking ME? When I took (American) French, que was pronounced kay. But they have hyphenated things like que plus est = q'est? The Spanish qui is pronounced key.

That's not how they pronounce it in France though. Not like in cook either, though.

[GGT]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbKHDPPrrc

I do love Doris Day

[GGT]

Well, you're wrong. They may not actually know the name of the theory, or even that it ever was an economic theory, but it's still what they want to see - guvmint, create jobs and fix everything!!!

And yes, that's *very* head-up-ass.

We must hang out in different circles, then. Most people I know (academics and average Joes alike) are simply fed up with the whole mess. Some blame the gummint, some want gummint to do better, some join grass roots movements or the PTA.... but pretty much everyone I know is frustrated and getting angry.

Disclosure: the only union members I know personally are teachers, and my ex is one of them. I really don't think he (or my retired teacher neighbors) have any clue.

[CitizenCain]

Not like in cook either, though.

Know of anything closer (in English)? That's the best I could come up with.

And, actually, I do think it's kinda close, but maybe the British accent fucks up the way European English people say "cook," or something like that. It's certainly not too far off if you have a 'Merikan accent.

We must hang out in different circles, then.

One of us also must not read the news.

What was our current president's (wildly popular) campaign slogan, again? "Hope and the status quo," or something like that?