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  1. 05-14-2010, 01:21 PM #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post
    Oh? That's basically all I care to say about the guy, and it comes from his own mouth these past few election cycles. If he doesn't want to be labeled as a closet commie, I wouldn't think it would be so hard to stop speaking like one.
    To say he's a touch to the right of Stalin is Godwinesque in its hyperbole. It's a demonization. You could have easily said he's extremely left wing and got your point across. But since communism rejects market capitalism, and if implemented would mean his personal wealth and property would be taken over by the state, and especially since he made his wealth by taking advantage of faulty currency markets and wrote a book - was on a book tour as I recall when I heard him speak - about how to modify current markets to keep the bubble crash cycles from happening, I find it hard to believe he's a closet communist. Yeah, he might be a lefty, but to call him communist doesn't make any sense outside of an attempt to demonize him and influence the opinions of people that don't think very much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    To say he's a touch to the right of Stalin is Godwinesque in its hyperbole. It's a demonization.
    Why? Is he actually to the left of Stalin? Excuse me, honest mistake.

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    You could have easily said he's extremely left wing and got your point across.
    Well, he *is* extremely left wing. To the point that he's a pseudo/crypto communist.

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    But since communism rejects market capitalism, and if implemented would mean his personal wealth and property would be taken over by the state, and especially since he made his wealth by taking advantage of faulty currency markets and wrote a book
    Hence the irony of him being such a raging leftie. Implementing half of his hair-brained ideas would strip him of all his personal wealth, so he'd be unable to promote the other half of his insanity.

    Doesn't seem like such a bad idea, when I put it like that.
    "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."

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    You physcially can not concede, can you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    You physcially can not concede, can you?
    Not on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post
    Not on this.
    On what then? I've never seen you concede anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    On what then? I've never seen you concede anything.
    Well, you have been not around for multiple significant periods of time.

    But, in any event, since the only logical conclusion you can draw from having never seen me concede anything is that I'm always right (right?), this must mean that I'm right about Soros too... and as I'm right, it would be improper for me to concede my position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post
    Well, you have been not around for multiple significant periods of time.

    But, in any event, since the only logical conclusion you can draw from having never seen me concede anything is that I'm always right (right?), this must mean that I'm right about Soros too... and as I'm right, it would be improper for me to concede my position.
    Refusal to concede is in no way connected with being right - typically the opposite, in fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    Refusal to concede is in no way connected with being right - typically the opposite, in fact.
    Your fallacy... and from an incredulous source like the guy claiming Soros isn't a Stalinist nutball, too. Pfffft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post
    Your fallacy... and from an incredulous source like the guy claiming Soros isn't a Stalinist nutball, too. Pfffft.
    You're in a good mood today.
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