Angsty college students, obs
Angsty college students, obs
In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
Or if you ARE interested in the oil, contribute to the thread.
Being glib about a possible gusher through July, by saying OG and I will just mean a summer of angsty posts....
The gulf marshlands were going to be destroyed anyway. You might have missed the significance of the occasional remark on the subsidence of the Gulf Coast, but that's not something we're going to be able to stop. Change happens, even ecologically.Originally Posted by GGT
Angsty, huh.
If you don't think our nation's gulf marshlands are worth concern, and you call it angst....then I'll say you're in denial of some sort.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Oh. I don't think I'm angsty about it. I'd like to see it stopped. I'd like to see the odds of this happening again reduced so low as to be nil. I'd like to see the responsible parties held accountable. But I'm not angsty. What's angsty mean in this context anyway? Is it just being used as a slur?
Yup, all the time. Over the next hundred years that coastline's going to get a shit load of change. This is nothing by comparison. Are you asking "why bother?" or "why fret?" Something else?
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
BP says Top Kill now failed too.
"Why post hysterically." And posters can go on all they want about "we will never be able to clean it," but they're kinda missing the concept of "never".
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Totally called it
The Top Kill and Junk Shot failed. BP is going to try another "no one has tried this before" attempt by installing another version of their first failed dome; called a lower-marine riser package. After that they have nothing until the relief well is finished in August, the relief well that BP claimed was to expensive to build before a fuck up.
Last edited by Ominous Gamer; 05-30-2010 at 12:37 AM.
Congratulations, you "called" something that just about every expert called before you. And I love your continued glee at BP's failures.
Hope is the denial of reality
Been busy all day, so I haven't been keeping tabs on the forums, but are we so dead today that this ended up being the best thread to troll in?
Do you care so much about making inane political points that you feel happy at a monumental environmental disaster?
Hope is the denial of reality
Guess the last hint went over your head, but I still don't get where you are getting that I'm full of glee or happiness that BP is fucking up the body of water I live miles from, but you're Loki, comprehension and discussion were never your selling points.
So you're simultaneously denying that you're happy about the situation because it allows you to bash a major corporation and are showing glee from bashing the corporation.
Hope is the denial of reality
Pointing out how unprepared, and dishonest, BP has been from the start means I'm happy they fucked up?
Thats a whole new level of surreal for you Loki.
Still not seeing where you're getting the glee from.
This is me, being totally happy, while passing on this link.
Edit after catching up on today's posting:
Holy shit, you attacked GGT in the same way; can't attack the point, attack the party, eh Loki?
Last edited by Ominous Gamer; 05-30-2010 at 01:28 AM.
Does this mean you've never seen happinessSo you're simultaneously denying that you're happy about the situation because it allows you to bash a major corporation and are showing glee from bashing the corporation.
In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
A) You've yet to show that BP is any worse than other companies.
B) I think we get the point already.
Hope is the denial of reality
Still not related to the thread, same as the first time you tried this derail. This also borders on Glenn Beck style reasoning since what you're requesting isn't one good company, but that all other companies aren't badYou going to attack the intelligence of my children now?
then I guess this thread ain't for you any moreB) I think we get the point already.
You and Loki seem to have a really low threshold for what you consider hysterical or angsty.
The Gulf coast loses shoreline and marshes every year, from natural and/or man-made events. Restoring marshes is harder than keeping them safe from oil-ruin. What makes you say the marshes would be destroyed "anyway"?
Would you say the same if several million gallons of oil threatened San Francisco Bay?
If your students jump off a bridge, will you jump too?
In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
If students jump off a bridge every day in one area and don't do it at all in another, would it be equally newsworthy if there was a jump in each area?
Hope is the denial of reality
In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
Regarding emotions....
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/30/op...30dowd.html?hpOnce More, With Feeling
By MAUREEN DOWD
Published: May 29, 2010
President Spock’s behavior is illogical.
Once more, he has willfully and inexplicably resisted fulfilling a signal part of his job: being a prism in moments of fear and pride, reflecting what Americans feel so they know he gets it.
“This president needs to tell BP, ’I’m your daddy,’ “ scolded James Carville, a New Orleans resident, as he called Barack Obama’s response to Louisiana’s new watery heartbreak “lackadaisical.”
At a press conference, Obama said Malia had asked him, as he shaved, “Did you plug the hole yet, Daddy?” (That hole should be plugged with a junk-shot of Glenn Beck, who crudely mocked the adorable Malia.) Oddly, the good father who wrote so poignantly about growing up without a daddy scorns the paternal aspect of the presidency.
In the campaign, Obama’s fight flagged to the point that his donors openly upbraided him. In the Oval, he waited too long to express outrage and offer leadership on A.I.G., the banks, the bonuses, the job loss and mortgage fears, the Christmas underwear bomber, the death panel scare tactics, the ugly name-calling of Tea Party protesters.
Too often it feels as though Barry is watching from a balcony, reluctant to enter the fray until the clamor of the crowd forces him to come down. The pattern is perverse. The man whose presidency is rooted in his ability to inspire withholds that inspiration when it is most needed.
Oblivious to warnings about Osama hitting the U.S. and Katrina hitting New Orleans, W. often seemed more absorbed in workouts than work. Obama, by contrast, does his homework; he conveys a rare and impressive grasp of difficult subjects when he at last deigns to talk to the news media and reassure those whose lives are overturned by disaster.
The wound-tight, travel-light Obama has a distaste for the adversarial and the random. But if you stick too rigidly to a No Drama rule in the White House, you risk keeping reality at bay. Presidencies are always about crisis management.
Obama invented himself against all odds and repeated parental abandonment, and he worked hard to regiment his emotions. But now that can come across as imperviousness and inflexibility. He wants to run the agenda; he doesn’t want the agenda to run him. Once you become president, though, there’s no way to predict what your crises will be.
F.D.R. achieved greatness not by means of imposing his temperament and intellect on the world but by reacting to what the world threw at him.
For five weeks, it looked as though Obama considered the gushing that became the worst oil spill in U.S. history a distraction, like a fire alarm going off in the middle of a law seminar he was teaching. He’ll deal with it, but he’s annoyed because it’s not on his syllabus.
Even if Obama doesn’t watch “Treme” on HBO, it’s strange that he would not have a more spontaneous emotional response to another horrendous hit for Louisiana, with residents and lawmakers crying on the news and dead pelicans washing up on shore. But then, he didn’t make his first-ever visit to New Orleans until nearly a year after Katrina hit. “I never had occasion to be here,” he told The Times’s Jeff Zeleny, then at The Chicago Tribune.
Just as President Clinton once protested to reporters that he was still “relevant,” President Obama had to protest to reporters last week that he has feelings.
He seemed to tune out a bit after the exhausting battle over health care, with the air of someone who says to himself: “Oh, man, that was a heavy lift. I’m taking a break.”
He’s spending the holiday weekend in Chicago when he should be commemorating Memorial Day here with the families of troops killed in battle and with veterans at Arlington Cemetery.
Republican senators who had a contentious lunch with the president last week described him as whiny, thin-skinned and in over his head, and there was extreme Democratic angst at the White House’s dilatory and deferential attitude on the spill.
Even more than with the greedy financiers and arrogant carmakers, it was important to offend and slap back the deceptive malefactors at BP.
Obama and top aides who believe in his divinity make a mistake to dismiss complaints of his aloofness as Washington white noise. He treats the press as a nuisance rather than examining his own inability to encapsulate Americans’ feelings.
“The media may get tired of the story, but we will not,” he told Gulf Coast residents when he visited on Friday. Actually, if it weren’t for the media, the president would probably never have woken up from his torpor and flown down there.
Instead of getting Bill Clinton to offer Joe Sestak a job, Obama should be offering Clinton one. Bill would certainly know how to gush at a gusher gone haywire. Let him resume a cameo role as Feeler in Chief. The post is open.
You're now taking your political advice from Carville and Dowd?
You're now saying that posting an op-ed is "taking political advice"?
Maybe the murmurs of putting this endeavor under military control is something you'd rather comment about. Or are you just trolling?
The military has a solution to this problem? Or are you begging for a junta for the second time in two days?
Hope is the denial of reality
Ah, so you ARE just trolling.
So are you going to tell us what good involving the military will bring, other than screwing up civil-military relations? Or do you just care about change for the sake of change again?
Hope is the denial of reality
Bummer.
Who's hysterical? And strictly speaking, it's true we'll never be able to clean it. That doesn't mean the gulf will never be clean again though.But in the short to medium term, the gulf's going to be pretty fucked up.
Lok's never struck me as the happy type.
Every marshy coastline in the world's going to be drowned in the next 50 years +/- and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it.
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
Lets play a game. Just how badly did BP's last 2 attempts fail?
Spoiler:
Now who wants to guess where all those wasted materials are going to end up?
As your wanking material?
Yeah, it was my idea to bring in the military for containment and clean-up. Then Gen. Honore, a few senators and parish presidents got wind of it, the media picked it up and ran some stories.
FFS Loki
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