Origins: I got this topic idea from a post I made in the Panic/Purge/Patience thread. Instructions for life, this is what you do, follow this.... sage advice for unprecedented times.
The Opening Post:
Modern history is short. How things are now is really short. But behavior proceeds, or seems to proceed, as though current conditions are long established and understood. A personal example is retirement planning. How can anyone give you or me retirement planning advice that is based on anything but wild conjecture? Every decade in the last ten has been economically different in a way that would prescribe different actions/critera, looking back and forward, for a successful retirement.
I dare to say that today: IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLAN FOR YOUR RETIREMENT. Nobody can say whether saving in bonds, stocks, cash (mattress or bank), or realestate (of any kind) makes sense. Or whether RETIREMENT as a concept is even relevant anymore.
I wrote this in that PPP thread:
http://www.theworldforgotten.com/sho...p?t=714&page=5This is what you do:
#1. Buy as much house as you can afford in a good, stable neighborhood. Take good care of your property, make regular upgrades to bathrooms and kitchen. Pay extra on your mortgage every month or whenever you can. Mark the check "for principle only." When you go to sell, it will be worth every bit you put in and then some.
#2. Put as much money in your 401k as you can from every pay check. Make it automatic so you will stop thinking about it. Put your money into aggressive investments early on and transition to more secure investments as you get older. Ignore the ups and downs of the market, just keep on depositing your money. When you retire, you'll have a zillion dollars.
#3. If you can max out your 401k contributions and you have extra disposable income, put money into an IRA account and/or an after tax account. Follow the same regimen as above.
#4. Live happily ever after.
But its all bull shit. None of these things has worked out particularly well. The people retiring today did this and something else - look how well its all worked out. The people just starting out in the work force right now gotta be thinking of a different plan. When I retire, this shit isn't going to sustain me. Who the hell knows what will in thirty or forty years? NOBODY.
So all you Monkeys chimed in with your own sage advice which probably unintentionally was about as deep and meaningful as this crap. And it was FUNNY.
AND
So reading that Decline and Fall of the United States of America thread, telling us we don't have the money or the freedom with think we have and that you shouldn't have to live constantly in fear of losing your basic necessities and all that, I came back to this. Its true and it isn't true. Everyone seemed so concerned about the implication that the US is a falling giant, a decadent society embracing decline more or less with greed and lack of vision, a nation ruled by the pentagon which probably means Ike's Military Industrial Complex. The part about quality of life here being not all that great, not what it seems to be, even from inside, is just as provoking, and in a way surreal.
The thing is, the Modern US, like the rest of the world, isn't what it was even twenty years ago. NOTHING IS. Our entire modern history is like that - changing faster and faster so that you can't look at history and what we think our current state is and say "yeah, that's it, that's wot its all 'bout and where its all goin' - ta 'ell in a 'andbasket, that." No.
Just like nobody can tell you what to do to safeguard your future when you're no longer able to work, or you no longer have any relevant skills to be paid well for your time, nobody can tell you what's going to happen to the United States if it keeps trying to Starve the Beast, or stops, or Western Europe if it keeps caring so much about its citizens, or stops. Or if both GeoPol entities keep pushing Globalization relying on the third world to build our labor intensive stuff. Or if China keeps growing like The Blob. Or even if Iran gets nukes. (BOO!) Or we keep burning fossil fuels. Or we move heaven and Earth to stop.
The thing thats going to define our health and welfare in the next hundred years is almost certainly the thing nobody's talking about. So don't try to tell me what to do to be safe. There is no safety, only surprise.
And that's why we don't value old people anymore. The lives they lived are less and less relevant to the lives we are all living. Just like your's. So much for the Village Elders.
EDIT: Oh, and lets have that Sage Advice you fucking LUNATICS!


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