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Thread: Happy Independence Day, USA! (?)

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    Default Happy Independence Day, USA! (?)

    While I love the Fourth of July, fireworks, parades and flags waving, did we win the war but lose the battle? Is it still a fight or a cooperative effort?

    We're not independent from other nations, in fact we rely on them for our way of life. Commerce, industry, yadayada.

    We're not independent from other nations, states, peoples. The opposite might be truer----as we become more sophisticated and educated, we have higher expectations, and the more we rely upon others. Not too many people grow their own food, milk their own cows, mend their own fences, birth their own babies, weave their own cloth, build their own homes.



    I bet all those fireworks people are gonna set off are made in China or Taiwan. American flags have about one US manufacturer, the rest are from cheap over-seas labor. But go ahead and feel the pride. Pump that foreign made car full of gas (mined and refined in other nations), drive to a BBQ party (on asphalt roads that British Petroleum helped make), grill some beef from Brazil or shrimp from Australia (because our Gulf seafood is either gone or contaminated), drink a domestic beer (in an aluminum can from Alcoa aka Bp).....and play some country and western music that was recorded to play on Japanese Sony machines, then call your BFF on the Nokia cell phone:

    Well I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm freeeee
    Last edited by GGT; 07-02-2010 at 07:18 PM.

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    What did we decide about profanity in thread titles? Oh, that's right, not to do it. Right?
    The Rules
    Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
    Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
    Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)

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    We did? I must have missed that memo. oops sorry, I'll try to fix that now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    What did we decide about profanity in thread titles? Oh, that's right, not to do it. Right?
    Maybe I missed a newer thread or something, but last time you claimed this, didn't someone shut you up by pointing out you were the only one againist it, and no one else gave a flying fuck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    Maybe I missed a newer thread or something, but last time you claimed this, didn't someone shut you up by pointing out you were the only one againist it, and no one else gave a flying fuck?
    "We" = if the mod online feels like it
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

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    Edited thread title. I never look at the site discussion thread, sorry if I did a boo boo. Is it all better now?

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    Is that GGT turning into an economic nationalist?
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    While i support any holiday that involves fireworks, the thread content seems to assume that the only industry worth anything is one that manufactures trinkets and low cost items.

    You know about a place called silicon valley, right Geeg? Or Google. Amazon. Ebay...
    "Son," he said without preamble, "never trust a man who doesn't drink, because he's probably a self-righteous sort, a man who thinks he knows right from wrong all the time. Some of them are good men, but in the name of goodness, they cause most of the suffering in the world. They're the judges, the meddlers. And, son, never trust a man who drinks but refuses to get drunk. They're usually afraid of something deep down inside, either that they're a coward or a fool or mean and violent. You can't trust a man who's afraid of himself. But sometimes, son, you can trust a man who occasionally kneels before a toilet. The chances are that he is learning something about humility and his natural human foolishness, about how to survive himself. It's damned hard for a man to take himself too seriously when he's heaving his guts into a dirty toilet bowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    Maybe I missed a newer thread or something, but last time you claimed this, didn't someone shut you up by pointing out you were the only one againist it, and no one else gave a flying fuck?
    Actually, I wasn't the one who raised the issue the first time around. But I do prefer profanity free thread titles. Hope it doesn't inconvenience you too much.
    The Rules
    Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
    Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
    Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    Actually, I wasn't the one who raised the issue the first time around. But I do prefer profanity free thread titles. Hope it doesn't inconvenience you too much.
    You are either a stupid cunt, or you purposely replaced "last time" with "first time".

    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    I'm wondering if this thread title might violate the ban on swearing in thread titles. Cunt's a pretty bad word in my neighborhood...
    Quote Originally Posted by Timbuk2 View Post
    I didn't think there was a ban on swearing in thread titles.


    EDIT. Just checked the Swearing in Thread Titles thread. No consensus was reached, but general opinion seemed to be - who gives a fuck. Actually yours was the only dissenting opinion from what I could tell.

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    Its the 4th of July?

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    Not according to my calendar.
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

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    The fourth of July is a weekend mentality.

    Anyway, it's kind of a stoner philosophical thread. Without the weed.

    There is no Life without Others. Independence is a Myth. It's been used as a frame of reference--Freedom From.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    You are either a stupid cunt, or you purposely replaced "last time" with "first time".
    Kiss my fucking ass if you can't handle me not recalling every little piece of shit detail that goes on around here you scraggly rat bitch. Some people have more on their mind than video games and internet bbs. Dick.
    The Rules
    Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
    Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
    Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)

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    Is this where we get to cuss for no apparent reason? In the thread whose title I had to change? Cool.

    Well happy mother fucking independence day you cock suckers. Buncha dick wad toadies you are, fucking around with each other but twitnoring the topic. You moron men couldn't find your own dicks even after mama shows you how, you can't even piss without dissecting boxers or briefs when you're grown up. Boo Hoo you humping penii. Something about limp wrists. After you get done sucking each other off do you floss the cock meat out of your mouths, just to watch it hit the mirror? Or do you giggle at the pools of cum at your feet?

    Independence Day my ass. Men are whiny mama's boys, sucking thumbs in the womb and sucking cock after birth, calling it War. You war mongering shit holes. Why can't you just admit you've fucked up the whole world, spreading your sperm around but not taking care of it. Spawners and Breeders and Fuckers, the whole lot of ye. How great are those wild oats, you fuckers.

    The world might just be better off with sperm donors and women taking the reins for a while. Not too Hip Hop Glam, huh. Lady Gaga has weapons sprouting from her boobs, you probably think that's hott. Go jack off and leave the rest of the world to your mothers, you mother fuckers. You were born playing with your tiny penii and you'll never stop.








    eh, that wasn't so fun after all. Mostly a stretch.

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    Ruh-roh, you'll draw the ire of Loki if you keep posting with that attitude, young man
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

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    Poor baby. He'll just have to learn to put on his big boy pants for once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorNorton View Post
    Poor baby. He'll just have to learn to put on his big boy pants for once.
    He wears underoos with Hot Wheels on them.
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

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    Great video Norton. I snorted a bit of Diet Coke out my nose when it got to the Bed Bath and Beyond part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    me not recalling
    Common problem when you put quantity over quality, but if you can't remember your own idiotic lying remarks from a mere month ago, you may want to get that good old memory checked out

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    We are going in the wrong direction in many areas (economic, foreign policy. But we've made some great social progress. Ultimately most things are a pendulum.

    Just got back from a night at the beach with the kids, heading upstate for a bit tomorrow where there will likely be some fireworks. First time in four years I'll be missing the bone-crunching, chest-compressing NYC fireworks but oh well.

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    It is officially the 4th of July, MDT! Unfortunately, that means nothing here anymore. BFE Wyoming decided it couldn't afford to donate anything to the Bomb Squad, so we won't have any city fireworks this year! Oh well, gonna go out to Manville for a BBQ and parade in the morning/lunch time, then going to Johnson's for an evening BBQ and fireworks!
    I don't have a problem with authority....I just don't like being told what to do!Remember, the toes you step on today may be attached to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow!RIP Fluffy! 01-07-09 I'm so sorry Fluffster! People who don't like cats were probably mice in an earlier life! My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves completely!The nice part about living in a small town: When you don't know what you're doing, someone else always does!
    Atari bullshit refugee!!

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