Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
A difference I am sure has been waxed and waned over in academia but the point is, the people were owned and tied to their parcel of land. In the context of Dreadnaught and liberal NY politics, the difference is negligible. But go on ahead, I'm sure there's some Euro-centric viewpoint I'm missing here.
Since there isn't any actual serfdom in present day NY I think we can safely assume we weren't talking about anything but the European servitude. Those serves had all sorts of duties and limits on their freedom, but they could NOT be sold as if they were property, also the could own land, houses and other property for themselves. That is not some narrow hardly noticable difference, that is a huge difference. I know in your warped idea of history it's all just the same; but you are dead wrong. And really, you should consider stopping using your idiotic notions of serfdom as examples for anything, because you simply don't know enough about it to even guess when the examples you use are any good. Serfs are slaves just as little as 1 + 1 = 3.