@ Tear Lurker

[Adamant]

No, you guys are clearly sick for reals, which isn't entertaining. Just sad

I disagree, if everyone wasn't 'sick' to one degree or another I doubt this community would have survived the Atari culling.

Randy was mean?

And it affected somebody?

And you think that somebody was Ness?

Fuck me I don't know anything!

That makes no sense to me either.

If ][ear, Cain, and WPO, ran free and all this forum had was their arguments, I bet people would leave.

Atari was where I unashamedly abused inconsistencies in rules and moderators in order to say anything I wanted. I viewed it dispassionately as a vehicle for the levels of schadenfreude one could not hope to give voice IRL and my entire approach was thus utterly selfish.
It was opportunistic, vindictive and created frustrating levels of discord for members who genuinely sought the sense of community. The truly ugly fact about it though, is that I was aware of this practically the entire time, but couldn't see any way to undo the infamy, and thus in some twisted way, I enjoyed it.

In hindsight, it was likely more or less the conflict that surrounded myself (and quite a few others) which contributed towards the conditions surrounding AtariForums' demise.
Anyone reading this disagree?

I created an account here, made a few lightweight posts and observed, but hovering above that was the stubborn idea that perhaps a collective apology thread would not be untoward??

The only one that got banned was Tear. Cain got paranoid, deleted all his posts and disappeared. Probably changed his address, phone number and name too.

I found him though, through his connections with Moo3 projects I believe and his online business identity as a programmer, even his location, associations and a record with Ohio state police.
His paranoia was justified I believe.

[Timbuk2]

Atari was where I unashamedly abused inconsistencies in rules and moderators in order to say anything I wanted. I viewed it dispassionately as a vehicle for the levels of schadenfreude one could not hope to give voice IRL and my entire approach was thus utterly selfish.
It was opportunistic, vindictive and created frustrating levels of discord for members who genuinely sought the sense of community. The truly ugly fact about it though, is that I was aware of this practically the entire time, but couldn't see any way to undo the infamy, and thus in some twisted way, I enjoyed it.

Ok. This is quite an admission. And to be honest I was surprised to see you here, as I seem to remember a parting of shot of yours at the other place was that you would not be joining the new community if/when it moved.

I never tangled with you Widows, in fact we had a few good conversations, but I think just about every other regular member did tangle with you.

The only thing I did get upset about your ugly behaviour was that it drove gogobongopop away; you two had a barney, he said enough is enough and walked away, and has not returned to the fold since. At least that's how I remember it. I wish he'd come back.

In hindsight, it was likely more or less the conflict that surrounded myself (and quite a few others) which contributed towards the conditions surrounding AtariForums' demise.

Fairly certain there were policy changes higher up in the Atari chain, and that the modding revamps were nothing to do with anything untoward in the forums. Dread et al would know more.

I created an account here, made a few lightweight posts and observed, but hovering above that was the stubborn idea that perhaps a collective apology thread would not be untoward??

Don't think it would be necessary, though the notion is nice.

As my remarks over the Tear debacle have clearly stated, I am all for inclusiveness, and I will back anyone who holds their hand up and admits to previously shitty behaviour.

An apology thread would just be OTT though I think.

Everyone likes to move on.

[Dreadnaught]

Atari was where I unashamedly abused inconsistencies in rules and moderators in order to say anything I wanted...The truly ugly fact about it though, is that I was aware of this practically the entire time, but couldn't see any way to undo the infamy, and thus in some twisted way, I enjoyed it.

Well at least you finally admit you were deliberately being an ass. Though I don't think you were abusing inconsistencies, you sure got plenty of warnings. You were just aware that we rarely instabanned ban people expressly for being an ass. And I didn't want to ban you because you were clearly more intelligent and funny than most people in DBZ. Can't speak for Timothy though...then again Timothy might be a sociopath for staying over there.

In hindsight, it was likely more or less the conflict that surrounded myself (and quite a few others) which contributed towards the conditions surrounding AtariForums' demise.
Anyone reading this disagree?

Nah, far from it. The place had an axe over its head for years. We came close to being nuked a few times, especially when a CC forum veteran went haywire and sent spammish ranting e-mails to Atari execs complaining that the moderators were a racist, anti-semitic, anti-American cabal bent on undermining Atari.

Many of the mods struggled mightily to stop it from becoming what it is, but ultimately Atari got Atarded on it and imposed crazy rules. Your personality had nothing to do with Atari demanding we enforce rules banning all frustration, emotion and complaints. It just took a while before Atari decided to do its thing and screw the place up.

But I think we're the better for it over here in a lot of ways. EG I can say that it's time I fucking get to work. And that Timothy might be a sociopath.

[EyeKhan]

I found him though, through his connections with Moo3 projects I believe and his online business identity as a programmer, even his location, associations and a record with Ohio state police.
His paranoia was justified I believe.

No Shit!?! That is frackin' hilarious. For a moment I was going to ask you to PM me his address and I'd send him a letter, but now that I think of it, I'd rather not take the risk.

[Crowheart]

In hindsight, it was likely more or less the conflict that surrounded myself (and quite a few others) which contributed towards the conditions surrounding AtariForums' demise.
Anyone reading this disagree?

Yeah I disagree.
If anything Atari was ludicrously out of touch with their community, had no idea who they were or what they wanted, and had no interest in listening to the truth when it was warned what would happen to the site as consequence.

It didn't matter what anyone in the community did or didn't do..they decided beforehand, and ignored anything that wasn't syncophantic yes-manning from a mod I won't name called Timmy.

I like this site better actually...less bullshit, even from before Atari decided to do it's monkey fucking a football impression.