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Thread: Reverse Discrimination

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    Senior Member Draco's Avatar
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    Default Reverse Discrimination

    So in light of most members supporting anti-discrimination laws..what about reverse discrimination?

    Gay pub can bar heterosexual drinkers


    • Ban was to 'prevent insults at gays'
    • Pub exempt from Equal Opportunity Act
    • Gays treated like 'zoo animals'


    A MELBOURNE pub catering for gay men has won the right to refuse entry to heterosexuals in a landmark ruling at the state planning tribunal.


    The owners of Collingwood's Peel Hotel applied to ban straight men and women to try to prevent "sexually based insults and violence" towards its gay patrons.


    The Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal last week granted the pub an exemption to the Equal Opportunity Act, effectively prohibiting entry to non-homosexuals.
    More here

    So is it ok for this pub, that caters to gay men, to deny entrance to heterosexual men/women? They're discriminating right? Based on their sexuality, they're not allowing them in (the owners give some excuses, which I don't buy. You have security guards to kick anyone out who's misbehaving).

    Is this case of discrimination different to that of the Christian hotel owners, or the florist? Many of you were of the opinion that they do not have the right to discriminate on their property, so do you think the same of the owners of the gay bar?

    It's funny though..you have this 'Equal Opportunity Act' but there's now some fine print to it that would read "Not really."
    Last edited by Dreadnaught; 04-10-2011 at 12:00 AM. Reason: Changed text color, some users couldn't see text.

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    Your poll lacks the option "my choice of theme prevents me from reading black text"
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    Discrimination is discrimination. Modifying it with reverse says it's the opposite of discrimination, but that's not what you mean here.

    And no, the gay bar shouldn't be able to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation. It should, of course, be able to toss anyone misbehaving, and that should include insulting gays.

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    Well my opinion is that a business owner should be able to do what he wants... however if we are going to have "equality laws" then they should apply to all groups.

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    How would they check your sexuality at the door, anyway? I am against this, discrimination is discrimination.

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    ^^Well I'm guessing they ask you at the door. Kinda silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
    Your poll lacks the option "my choice of theme prevents me from reading black text"
    Then change your theme?

    Anyway good to see that at least some of you are consistent (not sure who the yes voter is though).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco View Post
    Then change your theme?
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

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    How would a bar even enforce this without becoming the lamest place on earth? How many incidents were there?

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    Looks like it's not just the US social conservatives hyped up about peoples' sexuality. Is there something going on in Australia we should know about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnaught View Post
    How would a bar even enforce this without becoming the lamest place on earth? How many incidents were there?
    Not that I've ever been to Melbourne, nor am I familiar with their pubs/bars, but I'd assume that the place would have gotten just as many incidents as any other random straight or gay bar. I think they were just using the whole incidents thing as an excuse to justify their case.

    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    Looks like it's not just the US social conservatives hyped up about peoples' sexuality. Is there something going on in Australia we should know about?
    I'm not sure I get what you mean?

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