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  1. #2821
    Guess I've had enough rum to post here now.

    My kids have an idiot for a father. The male role models from his family are bummed out we live so far away. They've expressed some guilt and regret they couldn't have been more involved or helpful. My family is too small and too far away to have been much help for these boys.

    After their dad was officially remarried, both sons pretty much said they're done with him. They don't want "visitation", and don't feel "obligated" to visit him....even though they're just a mile away. They're finally old enough to say NO, but their dad doesn't care or understand. He somehow views his own sons in the same light as his new wife's ficking yappy dogs....external clothes to wear and take off, depending on whims of the moment and what Image he wants to project.

    These (wonderful, beautiful, smart, loving and lovable) boys also think his new wife is a joke. They don't get along with her, and have lost their patience for being polite to their own father. More importantly, they have no respect for him. They've tried to tell me how hard it's been to placate their father, when he doesn't give a shit about them, and they've reached their limit.

    Hard to know how to process these emotions, or know how to proceed. Making matters even harder, their Paw Paw (their dad's dad) has Alzheimer's disease. He's become quite feeble and forgetful, but thankfully he still knows they're his "kin". What disturbed my sons was seeing how their father didn't really care for his own father----put him on an airline flight all by himself, didn't want him in his own home's guest room (it remained empty), made reservations at a hotel but didn't ask for a handicapped shower with grab bars, separate beds or adjoining rooms.

    He expected the boys would sleep on the sofa or the floor (which they did), help shower, feed and dress his father, drive him to the wedding and "keep track" of him during everything (which they did). He ignored his own father's needs, and his own son's needs at every twist and turn----expected our kids to "take care of his father" so he could (in essence) ignore them.

    His brothers noticed, and were also very uncomfortable in this entirely weird scene. Thankfully, they could accompany the Patriarch on the plane ride back home, and make sure Paw Paw's needs were tended. I was pulled aside with whispered voices, during our pancake visit before the wedding, to talk about Paw Paw's immediate housing needs, and asked my opinion. While it made me feel part of the family, the whole damn thing was filled with too much confusion and hurried words, while the ex and his new wife were calling Territorial pissing rights. Much like she did with her fucking yappy dogs and visitation rights. Similar to what he did with his parental custodial rights and our sons. Neither of them actually care, or want to be caretakers.

    To them, it's all about the outward Image. Treating parents, siblings, children, or even pets.....as wearable, interchangeable, or disposable "things". Subjects of their whim and whimsy. Pawns in their Game of Life, dressing for success, valuing everything external but nothing internal. That's what shells of people do, I suppose. Otherwise they're ugly in their nakedness.


  2. #2822
    If your sons are now saying; enough; perhaps your ex can now be finally and totally out of your lives?

    Your only connection was through the boys, no?

    Your ex wants a new life with his new lady, has a small enough heart not to really care for strings to the past, including his own children. So bollocks to him and let him have his new life.

    It is a damn shame for your boys, but you've been selfless and have had the patience of a saint in letting them get to know their Dad. Now that they are a bit older and are starting to realise as near adults what kind of adult he is, they want out of his new life too.

    You could even make the move away that you've discussed previously ...

  3. #2823
    No, the ex hasn't let go. That's the irony. He could have remarried and relocated into "her" territory, but he didn't. It's hard to explain, but all things seem to be about protecting his Image. [Only dead beat dads choose to move away from their kids during their formative years.] Friends have tried to tell me for years how he operates and what motivates him, but it didn't hit me in the face until recent events. He told our kids several variations of, "I'll always be here for you, just down the road", even though it's far from the truth. He's never around when his sons need him. He doesn't even know when his sons need him. Whether it's buying jock straps for sports, talking about birth control, or showing up for academic awards...he's never present.

    Shell People operate that way. They are always looking for ways to look their best, in the things they wrap around them. It's a variation of the Disney Dad. But it gets tough when it might look better to be an Opera afficionado, wrapped in the fancy cape of culture, having spent every other weekend in NYC instead of every other weekend as a soccer dad.


    No, I won't move away just yet. Youngest son has three more years of HS, wants to stay in the school district and graduate with his friends. Good school, great friends. It's not like a mandatory business transfer, where kids and families move together and muddle through. If I moved now, he would have to live with his dad and new step-mother. He's adamant, he won't do that and I won't leave him to do that. He'd rather live a couple of blocks away with his best friend's family until graduation, than live with his father. I'm adamant that I won't/can't agree to that scenario, either. It's just too weird.

    But thanks for your reply, Tim.

  4. #2824
    I believe you can go to court, have your children tell the judge they don't want anything to do with their father anymore, and have the judge cancel any visitation rights.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    I think you can do that over here, at least. Some of my friends had to do that to qualify for a larger student loan (if your parents make enough money, you get less, but if a parent doesn't pay anything for your education while the state expects them to that is annoying).
    Keep on keepin' the beat alive!

  6. #2826
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I believe you can go to court, have your children tell the judge they don't want anything to do with their father anymore, and have the judge cancel any visitation rights.
    In our state kids can do that when they turn 14 yrs old, but I've tried hard to keep them from having to be involved with courts and judges, testifying "against" their father. These aren't legal visitation rights we're talking about. Even though he's a jerk and a clown, he's still their father....and only lives a mile or so away. He's neighbors with their friends' parents, we "bump into him" at the grocery store or local diner, his house is on the way to/from the High School.

    Also, his lawyer is the father of our son's fellow student and previous soccer teammate, and used to be assistant coach. That man is also friends with my neighbors. Small town crap, with no escape from that. I think he picked that attorney on purpose, knowing that any "legal intervention" would be uncomfortable, socially. Great fun to show up for soccer practice, literally in your dad's divorce lawyer's backyard, huh.

  7. #2827
    I don't get the "he's still their father" BS. He's their father as long as he acts like one. Since he has no intention of doing so, I fail to see who your children benefit from seeing him. I think they're better off feeling sad in the short-term over being abandoned than to continue facing neglect and abuse from him.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  8. #2828
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I don't get the "he's still their father" BS. He's their father as long as he acts like one. Since he has no intention of doing so, I fail to see who your children benefit from seeing him. I think they're better off feeling sad in the short-term over being abandoned than to continue facing neglect and abuse from him.
    You probably can't "get" most of our family dynamics anyhow, Loki. These boys know I'm not going to force them into---or out of---something they're not ready for, or emotionally mature enough to deal with. We spend a lot of time truly talking from the heart and working through things, and they have had counseling and all that, too.

    The eldest has come to terms with "having the parent you get instead of the parent you need or want", and has adjusted to other things. ie, he doesn't blame himself for the divorce---which plenty of kids do in their hearts---and he's learned that sometimes relationships just don't work out, even ones that started in love and good intentions! Because he's more mature now.

    But the younger son is still where he wants/needs his dad for certain things, as he figures out what being a teenager means, let alone what being a young man means, or what being a mature man means.

    Father/Mother/Child/Family relationships aren't like romantic or business relationships that we pick and choose, or can "leave behind" so easily.

  9. #2829
    Stupid ranting:

    Spoiler:
    On one hand, I know that all love is unrequited

    I know the pursuit would be disastrous

    So why do I still, still have desire

    I want her

    And I don't think I can say that, ever

    What a fucking cliche
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

  10. #2830
    Not all Love is unrequited. I've known some very happy couples. Some perfectly "mated" at very young ages, that lasts/lasted for decades, with much Love and HappiNess as they grew old together. That whole Death Do Us Part thing. They don't know why it worked, and can't explain it to others. I'm not sure it's a learnable skill, or transferrable talent, actually. Maybe more like dumb luck?

  11. #2831
    Dumb luck is all it is.

    Plus having the balls to grab the opportunity if/when lady luck does show up.

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  13. #2833
    Turns out, later on down the line, that there was a window but I missed it

    And so it goes
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

  14. #2834
    A very small window I gather?

  15. #2835
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catgrrl View Post
    A very small window I gather?
    From my experience, those "hints" usually amount to putting said hint in a lockbox, driving into the wilderness, burying the lockbox 6 feet under and then trowing away both map and key.

    And then complaining that we don't get it.
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    Did he who made the lamb make thee?

  16. #2836
    I know what you mean Khen.

    There is one girl I know for quite a long time (>20years) and when I got my first girlfriend, she decided that this was the right moment to tell me that she had a crush on me. She told me: "Well you should have found out, I was always staying with you and your friends". Yeah, of course I should get that, how am I supposed to know that I am the reason, and not think it was because she simply enjoyed to stay with us, or maybe liking one of the other guys? On top of that, she is one of the "the guy has to make the first step, always, no exception" girls. Scandinavians have it so much better

    Edit: @Nessus, does it make you feel better or worse know that you know that you had the opportunity. On the one hand, you know that it is not entirely impossible, on the other hand it is sad that you missed the window. I was never sure if it is better to know if there was a window or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by earthJoker View Post
    I know what you mean Khen.

    There is one girl I know for quite a long time (>20years) and when I got my first girlfriend, she decided that this was the right moment to tell me that she had a crush on me. She told me: "Well you should have found out, I was always staying with you and your friends". Yeah, of course I should get that, how am I supposed to know that I am the reason, and not think it was because she simply enjoyed to stay with us, or maybe liking one of the other guys? On top of that, she is one of the "the guy has to make the first step, always, no exception" girls. Scandinavians have it so much better

    Edit: @Nessus, does it make you feel better or worse know that you know that you had the opportunity. On the one hand, you know that it is not entirely impossible, on the other hand it is sad that you missed the window. I was never sure if it is better to know if there was a window or not.
    It's tricky. It's good to know you had the shot, but I hate it when a girl says I could have had her at some point.. while at the same time saying I don't now . Especially because you can't really know if that thing in the past was really a shot, or that they are being nice to you ("Oh you're great and all, I just don't want you right now" )
    Keep on keepin' the beat alive!

  18. #2838
    What can I say...women are an enigma. Even I don't know why we behave the way we do.....maybe a defense mechanism. Some girls still don't want to be the ones to make the first moves. So their opportunities are often lost as well.

    And we are so fucking fickle!

  19. #2839
    Yeah, in the in my anecdote it was her that lost the opportunities, for me it was time I wasted alone that I could have spent with a girl instead. "Just" is maybe the wrong word, I felt very lonely at that time
    "Wer Visionen hat, sollte zum Arzt gehen." - Helmut Schmidt

  20. #2840
    Why did the logical side of me fail to kick the shit out of my emotional side when deciding I wanted to have a family?!?! I should have gotten a cat....

  21. #2841
    If I had a nickle for every time

    Well I'd be a rather unhappy, somewhat wealthy person

    Sorry Cat
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

  22. #2842
    well, it is pretty pathetic that someone who uses the screenname Catgrrl doesn't actually have a pet cat.........

  23. #2843
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catgrrl View Post
    Why did the logical side of me fail to kick the shit out of my emotional side when deciding I wanted to have a family?!?! I should have gotten a cat....
    That said, my (female) friends and acquaintances now all seem to be in the "I want a child" phase - so many pregnancies, it's not funny anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catgrrl View Post
    Why did the logical side of me fail to kick the shit out of my emotional side when deciding I wanted to have a family?!?! I should have gotten a cat....
    I have 3 cats thats I never wished for, and still wouldn't mind getting rid of; yet a child I wasn't expecting, that I wouldn't trade for the world.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

  25. #2845
    Earlier this year, on 8 May, a Jewish memorial place was vandalized. As it was reported back then, someone had spray-painted svastikas and written anti-semitic slurs in Latvian language over several of the stones at the memorial. Coincidentally, this was the day before 9 May, better known as "Victory Day" to certain groups of people. While it's obviously not an official state holiday, some russkie organizations do organize annual celebration nearby the so-called "Monument of Victory" in Riga, with concerts, speeches, and hordes of drunk russians waving around USSR flags, stuff like that. Of course, the aforementioned desecration of Jewish cemetery was an important topic in many of their speeches, mostly as an evidence for their usual claims about rebirth of nazism, Latvians being generally evil, and Russians being the only hope for survival of the Jew community in Latvia.

    Only yesterday it appeared in mass media that the two vandals responsible for the act were caught long ago, have confessed in the crime, and received their punishment. Both were Russian. And - both were members of some "anti-fascist" organization russkies over here apparently love to be part of. Their motivation for the desecration of the Jewish memorial place - they wanted to make it appear as if Latvians did it, so that their organization could "prove" how necessary they are over here in their speech during the 9 May celebration.

    While I do enjoy the irony of it all, there are quite a few things messing with my groove about this.
    1. Both vandals were (and as far as I know, still are) members of Saskaņas Centrs - a (poorly disguised) pro-russian political alliance, which is, since yesterday, the largest party in our parliament. Yeah, apparently that's the sort of people we have running the country now.

    2. They were caught a couple of days after the act. Somehow, all this appeared in the news only recently, and has received quite little media attention, although I'd say that's quite a big story, considering the political affiliation and the goals of the vandals. While I don't really like conspiracy theories, this does seem to suggest a few unpleasant things about mass media around here. Also, if this had been widely known earlier, before the recent perliamentary election, Saskaņas Centrs might have received less support. Just a thought.

    3. The vandals did receive punishment - 50 hours of public service. While this could be almost appropriate for mere vandalism, there's also a law against incitement to ethnic or racial hatred - and this particular act seems to be quite obviously against this law, considering the motives of the vandals. And, the punishment for that is prison sentence, which none of the vandals received. Just awesome.


    4. After the act of vandalism was committed, but those responsible hadn't been caught yet, there was quite an outrage from both the "anti-fascist organization" and the Jewish community. Now that the vandals have been caught, and the act found to be a provocation... Nothing. Well, the leader of their political party did say something along the lines of "shame on them" during an interview, though he'd have to be an utter idiot to do otherwise.
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  26. #2846
    Frankly, I'm amazed that Latvia has managed to avoid a low-scale civil war given the behavior of the Russian minority and the feelings toward that minority (along with constant Russian interference and Latvia's membership in NATO).
    Hope is the denial of reality

  27. #2847
    Mmm, I smell some pogroms coming!

    No?
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    I have 3 cats thats I never wished for, and still wouldn't mind getting rid of; yet a child I wasn't expecting, that I wouldn't trade for the world.
    I think you've got that backwards, FWIW. Cats are cheap, self-cleaning and low-maintenance. Children are expensive, messy and high maintenance. From a purely mathematical perspective, the answer seems pretty self-evident to me... unless you need the kid to have spare organs or stem cells or something.
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  29. #2849
    Having Saturn go under has been great for getting free oil changes, but damn, tire shopping is still the bitch it always was.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

  30. #2850
    I always bought my tires at Sam's Club when I had the SC2. I just recently gave it to my Dad so that's his problem now though!

    I keep finding ants in my kitchen. Only around the window/sink area. I keep trying to see where they are coming in at but they are so random it is hard to tell. Tomorrow gonna spray the hell out of the windows and doors while the little one is out with her Grandma...

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