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    Default Stuttering in Windows 7 x64

    Okay, here's the problem: Whenever I play a game, it runs smoothly for an arbitrary amount of time (~3 minutes) and then it begins to stutter. It looks as if the framerate cuts down to about ~5FPS and the sound stutters as well. This stuttering then continues for about 30, after which everything returns back to normal. And the cycle begins again.

    This is independent of the actual hardware demands of the game. I've had it happen in Torchlight while I was in town. I've had it happen in Crysis 2 while running through a tunnel where absolutely nothing was happening. I've had it happen in Warhammer 40K Space Marine while wading through Orcs or watching a cutscene. The same cutscene will play fine if I restart the game - the stutter will set in at another unrelated point.

    I've already looked at the usual suspects (drivers, temperature, 3rd party processes, Aero, ...), so it's nothing that obvious, okay?

    I've also reinstalled Windows completely, it's still happening on a default system.

    Only thing that I'm seeing is that during those stutter times, both cores will be at 100%, like this:



    However, as you can also see, the processes don't reflect that CPU consumption - essentially, they all stay at the level they were before the spike.

    Info on my system:
    AMD X2 6000+ @3.1 GHz (not overclocked)
    4GiB RAM
    AMD Radeon HD 5570
    ASUS M2N68-AM PLUS

    Any good ideas, anyone?
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    Do you have AMD's Dual Core Optimizer installed (even as a service)? Any throttling programs (even in the BIOS) like Cool and Quiet?
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    Dual Core Optimizer is not needed for Windows 7 (and the latest version is from 2008 anyway).

    Will have a look at Cool'n'Quiet, though I used CPU-Z and did not see a reduction in frequencies anywhere.

    Also: Turning vsync off did not help and neither was my dual-monitor setup the culprit.
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    It may not be needed, but its installed by default via some drivers. I know it ends up as a service on my Windows 7 Ultimate Sig Edition after I let Windows Update run through all its updates, driver downloads, and patches.
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    It's not Cool'n'Quiet either.
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    And it's not the Realtek onboard sound either. Damn.

    There's a whole lot of people with this kind of problem out there - I'm seeing few solutions or circumstances which fit to my problem.

    Weird thing is that I did not change a thing about my PC in the last 6 months.
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    Think i nailed the problem - seems as if my particular processor's temperature reader may be faulty, thus giving wrong readings.

    Cleaned the thermal sink and the processor of old thermal paste and applied new one. No stutter since.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khendraja'aro View Post
    Cleaned the thermal sink and the processor of old thermal paste and applied new one. No stutter since.
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    You should post your result on some of the websites your browsed, if they already don't have that answer... Kinda lame though how much they'll have to dig into their computer to see if they're sharing the same problem. I think there is free software that can give you a second opinion on the temp though, if your reader is off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebanese Dragon View Post
    You should post your result on some of the websites your browsed, if they already don't have that answer... Kinda lame though how much they'll have to dig into their computer to see if they're sharing the same problem. I think there is free software that can give you a second opinion on the temp though, if your reader is off.
    Yes, software is perfectly able to solve a hardware problem...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khendraja'aro View Post
    Any good ideas, anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khendraja'aro View Post
    Yes, software is perfectly able to solve a hardware problem...
    If you're gonna be like that, I don't know why anyone would bother... but since I'm such a nice guy, just replace your computer next time, given the complete inability of software to influence hardware problems.
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    Yes, software is perfectly able to solve a hardware problem...
    how old is this kid? Did you not understand my post? If you downloaded a new temp reader (software), that actually read your temp correctly, you'd know that your CPU was getting overheated (so you could solve the hardware problem). If it comes up the same as your current reader, it doesn't tell you anything at all, but if the new reader comes up high it tells you somethings wrong with your temp.

    I am curious though as to why you felt the need for a snobby response?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebanese Dragon View Post
    how old is this kid? Did you not understand my post? If you downloaded a new temp reader (software), that actually read your temp correctly, you'd know that your CPU was getting overheated (so you could solve the hardware problem). If it comes up the same as your current reader, it doesn't tell you anything at all, but if the new reader comes up high it tells you somethings wrong with your temp.

    I am curious though as to why you felt the need for a snobby response?
    a) First of all, I already solved the problem
    b) Now, that I solved the problem, I don't have a baseline to compare to. Making any "new" software equally unreliable. If the hardware sensor is faulty, it's a bit of a beast to come up with a solution without having anything you can compare your readings to. After all, the relation between temperature and resistance need not be a linear one.
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    You're not reading my posts correctly, glad your problems is fixed. Now you just need to fix your lack of etiquette.

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