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  1. #181
    Re. flash, sure, people can use flash in different annoying/dangerous ways. Perhaps someone can pressure the company that maintains flash, eg. Adobe, to make flash less of a pain in the ass.

    And as for ToS...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_S...ivacy_concerns

    On 10 August 2009, Wired magazine reported that more than half of the top websites used Local Shared Objects to track users and store information about them but only four of them mentioned it in their privacy policy. "Flash cookies are relatively unknown to web users," it said, "even if a user thinks they have cleared their computer of tracking objects, they most likely have not."
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    Well, again the fact that Facebook has an abysmal privacy record, and a ToS that reads like a particle physics textbook in Russian... uh duh? You agree to share information with a company like that, and you shouldn't be surprised when they do what they have a long history of doing.

    As to Flash, there's now a setting inside Flash player to clear the shared object location so users can wipe their flash cookies and any other trackable data, but as Flash is a browser plugin, its settings can be a little convoluted to access, and there's not a whole lot Adobe can do about that, aside from killing off Flash for the PoS it is, and embracing html5 video standards... but it should be obvious why that's not an optimal solution for them.

    Bottom line, there's no quick and easy route to privacy, so if it matters to you, the only solution that will work is to stay informed and know what you're doing. No law or discussion or public consensus can or will change that.
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  3. #183
    To be fair, avoiding heavy metals and botulinum toxin and air pollution and salmonella and deadly side-effects of drugs etc etc are also very difficult tasks.


    As for privacy and what matters, whether or not something matters to me is frequently influenced by 1. how much I know about it and 2. how difficult it is to do something about it.
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  4. #184
    Bt, speaking of anti-tech lunacy, how're those ridiculous software patents working out for you Dreadsie?
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  5. #185
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    Bt, speaking of anti-tech lunacy, how're those ridiculous software patents working out for you Dreadsie?
    That's pro-tech lunacy. Their purpose is to protect and encourage new technologies.

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    Aha, I thought they were instead having the effect of hampering said things and assumed that actions speak louder than words
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    if you want a story on how America has become anti-tech...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    Aha, I thought they were instead having the effect of hampering said things and assumed that actions speak louder than words
    Well, something to think about along those lines...

    An interesting alternate spin on the [US] patent system... not so broken after all? It's pretty long, but it's worth the read. I'm not sure what I really think about that piece, but a look at the upside of patents, instead of just the trolls and abusers of the system does make me wonder if maybe it's worth trying to fix after all. Hmm.
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  9. #189
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    if you want a story on how America has become anti-tech...
    I can't help but note that Denning's thesis is based entirely on the claim that all other services, from inventing to marketing and distributing, become massively harder or impossible if you aren't near the source of manufacture. That looks like just another version of the thoroughly wrong thesis that production *as opposed to services* is the only thing that matters because only production creates something physical.
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  10. #190
    This showed up on the front page of slashdot today. It details how facebook is able to track you across sites, even after logging out. Transferring information that includes, and goes beyond, your Account ID.

    http://nikcub-static.appspot.com/log...-is-not-enough

    Figured it might be a useful read since we were having some trouble understanding the practice earlier in the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    I can't help but note that Denning's thesis is based entirely on the claim that all other services, from inventing to marketing and distributing, become massively harder or impossible if you aren't near the source of manufacture. That looks like just another version of the thoroughly wrong thesis that production *as opposed to services* is the only thing that matters because only production creates something physical.
    I don't know about Denning's thesis, but physical production means use of the human element and their feedback, even in limited or small ways. That feedback can either improve production at its source, or spawn other innovative ideas.

    Producers and manufacturers might prefer to operate close to their clients and customers, and build close to those manufacturing hubs, as Immelt has said in the Presidential advisory committee on jobs/employment. But their bottom line remains making a profit, even if it's an American company like GE, Google or Apple, using labor in Taiwan or Korea or Beijing, selling through Walmart, Best Buy or e-Bay.

    As for the humans in the human element of production, it's been proven that those out of work and idle for more than six months actually lose skills. Like muscle tone and strength. Use it or lose it.

  12. #192
    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    I don't know about Denning's thesis, but physical production means use of the human element and their feedback, even in limited or small ways. That feedback can either improve production at its source, or spawn other innovative ideas.

    Producers and manufacturers might prefer to operate close to their clients and customers, and build close to those manufacturing hubs, as Immelt has said in the Presidential advisory committee on jobs/employment. But their bottom line remains making a profit, even if it's an American company like GE, Google or Apple, using labor in Taiwan or Korea or Beijing, selling through Walmart, Best Buy or e-Bay.

    As for the humans in the human element of production, it's been proven that those out of work and idle for more than six months actually lose skills. Like muscle tone and strength. Use it or lose it.
    GGT, if you're not going to actually reply to me, if my post isn't anything but a streamboard for your latest publicly-posted stream of consciousness, do me a favor and don't quote me. It's deceptive, as bad as any of Lewk's practices *or non-practices, as the case may be* with quote tags.
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  13. #193
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    GGT, if you're not going to actually reply to me, if my post isn't anything but a streamboard for your latest publicly-posted stream of consciousness, do me a favor and don't quote me. It's deceptive, as bad as any of Lewk's practices *or non-practices, as the case may be* with quote tags.
    Well, sorry for not replying as you expected. I thought I was "actually" replying to your post, after your Denning thesis honorable mention. Gave my opinion regarding manufacture and production vs services, proximity and physicality.

    That looks like just another version of the thoroughly wrong thesis that production *as opposed to services* is the only thing that matters because only production creates something physical

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    This showed up on the front page of slashdot today. It details how facebook is able to track you across sites, even after logging out. Transferring information that includes, and goes beyond, your Account ID.

    http://nikcub-static.appspot.com/log...-is-not-enough

    Figured it might be a useful read since we were having some trouble understanding the practice earlier in the thread.
    Maybe this'd make for a good thread on its own. Some of the responses would be hilarious
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    hilarious, depressing, guess its all the same...


    If any of you EU peeps with a facebook account have some time to waste, mind sending facebook a request for all the information they have on you? I'm curious how something like this would look.

    1.Open this site: https://www.facebook.com/help/contac...=data_requests
    2.Enter your personal information
    3.Make a reference to the following law: “Section 4 DPA + Art. 12 Directive 95/46/EG”
    4.Click on Send
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    Seems like more proof that the ridiculous regulatory burdens of the modern Leviathan state are incompatible with a market economy or any semblance of freedom, consumer choice, etc.

    Guess I understand why you'd find that depressing, but for the rest of us, the more reasonable approach would be to turn the tide and start eliminating regulatory bullshit that never should have been made law in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    hilarious, depressing, guess its all the same....


    If any of you EU peeps with a facebook account have some time to waste, mind sending facebook a request for all the information they have on you? I'm curious how something like this would look.
    It would look like a waste of plastic and energy. Why the fuck couldn't they just insist on being able to download it? I mean, that would also be wasteful, but at least it would be better.
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  18. #198
    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post
    Guess I understand why you'd find that depressing,
    That was a response to nessus' post and not the linkage, hence the copying of "hilarious". You missed the context, again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    Why the fuck couldn't they just insist on being able to download it?
    This would be ideal, yes. And less likely to be abused in the manner it is now. We can request credit reports in a similiar manner, I see no reason why this information should be treated differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    That was a response to nessus' post and not the linkage, hence the copying of "hilarious". You missed the context, again.
    So, now you're using the phrase "missed the context" to roughly mean "disagree with OG." Please, in the future make an effort to keep the rest of us informed of this kind of alteration in the meaning of common words and phrases, and have a nice day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post
    So, now you're using the phrase "missed the context" to roughly mean "disagree with OG." Please, in the future make an effort to keep the rest of us informed of this kind of alteration in the meaning of common words and phrases, and have a nice day!
    Man, its like you don't even try to make yourself comprehensible when you're wrong or trolling.

    You stated that I was depressed about something. I pointed out that not only were you wrong, but why. Now it has something to do with a disagreement? Is that how it goes when you post false bullshit about other users?
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    What... the... ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    hilarious, depressing, guess its all the same....

    [stuff about Reddit trolling FB over government-mandated personal information requirements]
    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post
    Seems like more proof that the ridiculous regulatory burdens of the modern Leviathan state are incompatible with a market economy or any semblance of freedom, consumer choice, etc.

    Guess I understand why you'd find that depressing, but for the rest of us, the more reasonable approach would be to turn the tide and start eliminating regulatory bullshit that never should have been made law in the first place.
    I don't know how I can connect the dots any clearer than that, or how the hell you could possibly have avoided the connection before, but shit, this is a comprehension issue on your end, not a comprehensibility one on mine...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post


    What... the... ???

    not a comprehensibility one on mine...
    Sorry, I figured you would have understood the concept of a paragraph break. The usual double tapped enter key that shows a shift in discussion, point, or topic, and so. See that depressing line was a direct response to Nessus comment on user replies. It had nothing to do with regulatory burdens, market economies or any of your other rambling bullshit. It was a comment nessus made preemptively about expected user replies. Now considering the previous context on that was user ignorance in the previous discussion in this thread, I remarked the replies would have been depressing.

    <paragraph break>

    The second part of that post was a totally different subject. The facebook data mining requests.

    <break>

    You either made a nonsense reply piggy backing off of my reply to nessus, or you tried to tie 2 seperate remarks I made into a single thought; ignoring of course context and formatting (because it made it easier for you to put words in my mouth?). Does this need to be explained in any simplier terms for you?
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  23. #203
    Screw the facebook data mining, this thread is the bee's bollocks
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    You'll never catch him alive OG!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    Sorry, I figured you would have understood the concept of a paragraph break. The usual double tapped enter key that shows a shift in discussion, point, or topic, and so. See that depressing line was a direct response to Nessus comment on user replies. It had nothing to do with regulatory burdens, market economies or any of your other rambling bullshit. It was a comment nessus made preemptively about expected user replies. Now considering the previous context on that was user ignorance in the previous discussion in this thread, I remarked the replies would have been depressing.
    So, have you not had a normal, adult conversation before? Because that could go a long way to explaining your confusion here, and perhaps even clear up some other nagging questions as well.

    You see, in a normal conversation, what happens is people communicate with one another on topics of mutual interest or curiosity. These topics could be anything, it's not really important what... but let's pick something tangible to make this explanation easier to grasp... say the topic is German anti-technology insanity. See, someone could start off that conversation by mentioning how German laws and regulations effectively ban vacation photos, internet advertising, "social media," and so on, and people who are interested in the topic of conversation would chime in with their own thoughts. Some might agree, some might bring up supporting evidence, while others might disagree and might bring up hypotheticals or anecdotes to the contrary. There might even be some topic drift into related areas, like regulations in general, or privacy rights, or the rights to enter into consensual agreements with another party. Heck, some might even go off the deep end and accuse the conversation-starter of being a racist!

    But this kind of dynamic with slightly shifting inputs from others is actually what is expected in a normal conversation. So, in this hypothetical example conversation, if someone brought up, oh, I don't know, a bunch of internet trolls abusing some ridiculous government regulation regarding websites and personal data, in a normal, adult conversation, one expected response to that might be someone using it as an example of how over-regulation chokes out a lot of important freedoms.

    Were the person making that point about over-regulation particularly intelligent, clever and sexually virile, he might even be able to utilize some of the other poster's words or phrasings as a launching pad for his point, whilst some less clever, less intelligent folk might be bewildered by the dynamic nature of a normal conversation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    <paragraph break>

    The second part of that post was a totally different subject. The facebook data mining requests.

    <break>

    You either made a nonsense reply piggy backing off of my reply to nessus, or you tried to tie 2 seperate remarks I made into a single thought; ignoring of course context and formatting (because it made it easier for you to put words in my mouth?). Does this need to be explained in any simplier terms for you?
    Well, speaking of simpler terms, what exactly is it that you're having trouble with here, vis-a-vis my response? It being on topic and relating your Reddit "story" to the thread's topic of conversation? It being a different opinion than your own? That it used "your" story to support a different opinion on the thread topic than the opinion you hold? Something else entirely?

    Please, I very much would like to help you understand how a normal conversation transpires, that you might avoid this confusion in the future, so by all means, feel free ask questions, or tell me about any problems you're having with gaining a deeper understanding of normal conversations, and I'll be delighted to help.
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    His problem is that he merely suggested that comments would be depressing and hilarious but you made it look like he thinks "that the ridiculous regulatory burdens of the modern Leviathan state are incompatible with a market economy or any semblance of freedom, consumer choice, etc", and that a more reasonable approach (compared to the one he isn't claiming to take) is to "turn the tide and start eliminating regulatory bullshit that never should have been made law in the first place." He clarified what he thought might be depressing, you said "nuh-uh":

    So, now you're using the phrase "missed the context" to roughly mean "disagree with OG."
    By pointing out that you "missed the context" he's trying to say that you took something he said out of context which led you to misattribute to him a statement/opinion that you disagree with. Of course, he may or may not hold that opinion, but it wasn't clear from his post. By continuing the bickering he's trying to show that he doesn't like it when you do this and he esp. hates it when you just can't say "oops sorry my bad."

    Is that about the gist of it OG? May I then ask why you bother, given that this sort of thing happens all the time in conversations on this forum and about far more important things? Is this a part of your pro-Palestine agenda? Jesus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    he esp. hates it when you just can't say "oops sorry my bad."
    I don't have a problem saying that when it happens, and I have when it's been appropriate, but OG not liking it when I use a common rhetorical technique is not an actual instance where that's applicable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    [blah]

    Is that about the gist of it OG? May I then ask why you bother, given that this sort of thing happens all the time in conversations on this forum and about far more important things? Is this a part of your pro-Palestine agenda? Jesus
    I think you're probably correct about [blah], but as you say, that happens quite frequently here (and out in the real world), so OG making it out to be a total comprehension failure and a big deal is really bizarre. And, you know, now that you mention it, you might be right about the reason being his pro-Palestine agenda... I hadn't thought of it that way before, but this could well be another j00-related issue. Closer study is clearly warranted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    By continuing the bickering he's trying to show that he doesn't like it when you do this and he esp. hates it when you just can't say "oops sorry my bad."

    Is that about the gist of it OG? May I then ask why you bother, given that this sort of thing happens all the time in conversations on this forum and about far more important things? Is this a part of your pro-Palestine agenda? Jesus
    He definitely has a problem with the opps admitting. Its usually ends up in some sort of comical rambling thats not related to the discussion (much like what we got here above your post). I wouldn't say its something I hate, but more of a tick, guess you can chalk it up the educator nature I've always had. We all can usually tell when he is trolling, but he picks the most idiotic and pointless things to bitch about when there is so much more low hanging fruit to go after in the actual content of the debate. I start to feel bad for him because its a defense mechanism when he dives into a subject thats to deep (his last go around with Khen being another example). I sit back and think, someone can't honestly be this slow, so I push and prod. See where it goes. He is so quick to react when he feels threatened that you can usually tell if the initial exchange is a case of trolling or stupidity based on how vehemently he replies (compare his response to me here to how he responded to me when I called him out in the EPA thread yesterday).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    He definitely has a problem with the opps admitting. Its usually ends up in some sort of comical rambling thats not related to the discussion (much like what we got here above your post). I wouldn't say its something I hate, but more of a tick, guess you can chalk it up the educator nature I've always had. We all can usually tell when he is trolling, but he picks the most idiotic and pointless things to bitch about when there is so much more low hanging fruit to go after in the actual content of the debate. I start to feel bad for him because its a defense mechanism when he dives into a subject thats to deep (his last go around with Khen being another example). I sit back and think, someone can't honestly be this slow, so I push and prod. See where it goes. He is so quick to react when he feels threatened that you can usually tell if the initial exchange is a case of trolling or stupidity based on how vehemently he replies (compare his response to me here to how he responded to me when I called him out in the EPA thread yesterday).
    Lol, I love it! I have a CISSP, and you... you answer phone calls from senior citizens who can't work webmail at the library's public terminals. You really want to get into who's in "to deep" on electronic security issues? [Which would be what that last "go around with Khen" was about - some arrogant fool thinking the encryption is the only attack vector against a dynamic, multi-part security system, and you believing him, it seems. God for you, way to show off your techie skills. ]
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    I thought the part about one of our old Presidents banning photos in public parks and associated hysteria was actually quite prescient.

    OCTOBER 3, 2011

    Are We Too Hung Up on Privacy?

    Jeff Jarvis: 'We now take it for granted that any piece of information we want is likely a search away.'

    By L. GORDON CROVITZ

    For many years, privacy has been evolving to become a right as fundamental as equal protection or free speech. But what if it comes at too high a cost? What if we have too much privacy when technology now makes sharing information so much easier and the value of shared information so much greater?

    This is the thesis of a new book, "Public Parts: How Sharing in the Digital Age Improves the Way We Work and Live," by Jeff Jarvis, a journalism professor at the City University of New York. In contrast to privacy activists, he argues for "publicness" to make the most of modern technologies.

    "Just as we now take it for granted that any piece of information we want is likely a search away," Mr. Jarvis writes, "we are coming to rely on the idea that the people we want to meet are a connection away."

    The benefits of social media are leading people increasingly to be more public. Most Americans over the age of 12 now have accounts on Facebook, whose entire purpose is to connect and share personal information. "To join up with fellow diabetics or vegetarians or libertarians or Star Trek fans, we first have to reveal ourselves as members of those groups," Mr. Jarvis writes.

    Mr. Jarvis details privacy fears over time arising from new technologies, from the printing press to the telephone to the microphone. A century ago, Kodak cameras made it easy for the first time to take and share photos of people; Teddy Roosevelt for a time banned cameras from parks in Washington as a privacy violation.

    Mr. Jarvis is his own test case for the benefits of sharing information. A hyperactive blogger and Twitter poster, he is famous among the social media set for his frank postings about his prostate cancer and the occasional embarrassing side effects of the treatment. He says in return for being so public, he got advice from men who had undergone the same procedure and the satisfaction of urging others to seek treatment. He once complained so bitterly online about problems with his computer that he created what became known online as "Dell hell."

    The more than 80,000 people who follow Mr. Jarvis on Twitter know his views on many topics. These are often cranky. He credits WikiLeaks as journalism, thinks advertising revenue will somehow again be enough to fund news reporting, and last Friday reported he had visited Occupy Wall Street demonstrators (Twitter post: "Glad to see they were eating well & a generator powering many Macs") and made a donation. Those of us who disagree with these views appreciate much of the rest of his posts, including his links to interesting articles and events.

    Mr. Jarvis is not starry-eyed about the Web. "Some people turn trollish, just announcing that they don't like what I'm saying, adding nothing to the discussion but venom," he told me last week. "They sometimes accuse me of oversharing. Well, I say they're over-listening. If they don't like what I say and don't choose to enter a discussion, they shouldn't follow me—and they shouldn't try to tell me what not to say."

    Mr. Jarvis argues it should be up to each person where to balance the risks and rewards of being more public. "When new technologies cause change and fear, government's reflex is to regulate them to protect the past," he says. "But in doing so, they also can cut off the opportunities for the future."

    Congress is considering several privacy bills. But Mr. Jarvis calls it a "dire mistake to regulate and limit this new technology before we even know what it can do."

    Privacy is notoriously difficult to define legally. Mr. Jarvis says we should think about privacy as a matter of ethics instead. We should respect what others intend to keep private, but publicness reflects the choices "made by the creator of one's own information." The balance between privacy and publicness will differ from person to person in ways that laws applying to all can't capture.

    "Perhaps this will lead to what I call the doctrine of mutually assured humiliation," Mr. Jarvis says. "I won't make fun of your silly picture if you don't make fun of mine. Perhaps it will lead to a greater expectation of openness from corporations and transparency from government. Perhaps it will also lead to people being more connected, for they can no longer run away from each other as they'll always be only a link or two apart."

    No one could have known when the printing press was invented that it would enable people to share and test new ideas, from democracy to the scientific method. Some day we'll know whether digital technologies have such a profound impact, but we are already altering our behavior to take advantage of what they offer. Yesterday's expectation of privacy is rapidly giving way to something new, and perhaps better.

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