*shrug*Originally Posted by RandBlade
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*shrug*
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"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
I didn't realise you had such a low opinion of critics like Paul Krugman. Any model is only as good as its assumptions underpinning it, fancy calculations don't improve on garbage inputs. Most Brexit calculations show Brexit to be bad, because it is assumed Brexit will be bad. All it shows is the bias of the data input. When you have such ludicrous assumptions as those quoted - well yes "nonsensical" is putting it politely.
Who said this was a one stop fix? Not me. This is one of many mini deals that will need to be reached in a so-called no deal scenario. It is one of many that have already been reached despite Hazir's increasingly lame protestations to the contrary.
WTF are you talking about? Is the CTC a unicorn in your eyes?
A bit of light relief
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You joining some international convention doesn’t mean you have a no deal deal.
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It is precisely what it means. Outside of the confines of the EU, nations operate primarily by working with international conventions. The issue the UK has is that we're not signed up to a lot of international conventions in our own right as those were delegated to the EU. The UK entering into these conventions requires deals to be made to smooth out the process (especially since many of the European-based conventions like this one revolve around the EU while not being a part of it). I do believe the EU could have vetoed us joining the CTC but they quite rightly haven't. The UK singing up to international conventions like these is part of the process of normalising our relations with the rest of the world as an independent nation.
Cool, you get a deal about the level of Albania. I guess it was in the secret book of 'things we voted for' that all Breximaniacs quote from. Is the sun rising in the east also in the list of brexit dividends?
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I'm struggling to see Albania on that list. Perhaps you can highlight it?Source: Real world, not your fiction: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_custom...ion-transit_en
The common transit procedure is used for the movement of goods between the 28 EU Member States, the EFTA countries (Iceland, Norway, Liechtenstein and Switzerland), Turkey (since 1 December 2012), the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (since 1 July 2015) and Serbia (since 1 February 2016).
No. Key is in the word ‘about’. It is not relevant if Albania is actually a signatory. You agreed to use standard form for your exports, big fat deal that.
Congratulations America
No, standard forms would be those Albania use. We decided to use integrated forms where appropriate here.
Merry Christmas.
Thread about an entirely unforeseeable () development:
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/stat...45044769193984
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
It's a farce and part of May's increasingly inept Project Fear III. With the incompetence of Grayling, the most incompetent Cabinet minister we have thrown in.Thread about an entirely unforeseeable (
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/stat...45044769193984
"Oh no the risk of No Deal is so horrific and so unforeseeable that we need to get ferries lined up in case Parliament votes down our Deal. Let's sign a contract with a ferry company that owns no ferries."
Anyone gullible enough for this bullshit needs their head examining. Grayling and May need to be thrown out ASAP.
By the time you've finished throwing out all the incompetent people, you will have no government left, nor much of a parliament.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Perhaps but that's the advantage of FPTP. Nobody is safe from being kicked out.
Project Saying The Things That Will Actually HappenProject Fear III
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
We will actually get ferries from a company that owns no ferries?
I have a bridge to sell you
But wait they have such a professional website their login page is a jpeg
I haven't followed this thread closely, but it reminds me of Trump's MAGA: what sounds like a good idea during an election campaign can turn out to be a nightmare in process. So many moving parts that it's hard to have a cogent conversation about what sovereign governance actually means.
Deploy chaff
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...d=tmg_share_tw
As immigration minister Caroline Nokes spoke to reporters in Dover on Saturday, a black Border Force boat sailed purposefully behind her, as the cameras clicked away.
But last night the Home Office faced questions over whether the vessel was really on patrol, or instead part of a “meaningless PR stunt”.
According to onlookers, the boat spent the majority of Ms Nokes’s visit sailing around in circles behind her, with three crew members on board.
One claimed the craft was even performing so-called “donuts”, fast manoeuvres to show off its power and speed.
“It was totally bizarre,” the onlooker said.
“The boat was just going around in circles totally pointlessly, right behind where she standing.
“It was like someone had decided to show the public that the government really had got control of the situation, and that they were dealing with it.
“But it seemed like a total waste of time. Surely the boat should either have been out in the Channel, or saving petrol?
“It just seemed like a charade, a meaningless PR stunt. It was all for show.”
The vessel seen sailing behind Ms Nokes is believed to be a Border Force rigid hull inflatable boat (RHIB).
Nearly eight metres long, the craft does not patrol the seas but instead carries crew from the shore to one of the force’s five cutters.
According to the Home Office website, the vessel is usually “launched down a slipway in the stern of the cutter, allowing for safe and speedy deployment and recovery in most sea conditions”.
It is not clear what task it was performing while sailing behind Ms Nokes on Saturday afternoon.
Only one of the Border Force's fleet of cutters is currently operational in the Dover Strait.
The Home Office was approached for comment, but failed to respond.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
It's less than 90 days.
Congratulations America
Tic toc, tic toc.
Happy New Year, we Brexit this year.
I'm optimistic.
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"You'll see!! YOU'LL ALL SEE!!!"
— Patrick "Last Place" Minford
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
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But perhaps RB can find some consolation in the fact that Gove is never right, always lying.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
He's right. In a no deal Brexit we can unilaterally abolish our tariffs and drop import costs by the 40% tariff rates.
Except that is not what the UK would actually do, nor is it what Gove was suggesting the UK would do as he addressed his audience of British farmers. Regardless, the key point here is that Gove appears to support May's deal.
Meanwhile, it's positive to see a long list of Brexit impact news that shows some companies have been able to spend many millions on contingency plans:
https://mobile.twitter.com/uk_domain...36120617439233
I have no doubt Brexiters will ignore every single item in that list because ignoring reality is much easier than acknowledging it, when reality is so cruel.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
So are you claiming Gove is always right?
No, I'm claiming, accurately, that Gove appears to support May's deal, and appears to want others to do the same. I don't hold Gove in high regard because he's a repugnant snake, but you have a much higher opinion of him, his judgement and his capacity for leadership—esp. when he's compared to May. Now that he apparently agrees with May, and appears to want British voters and MPs to accept the deal she's been responsible for negotiating, it seems ludicrous to condemn May and lionize Gove on the basis of a delusional belief that he would have gotten you a better deal.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
While I do think Gove in power 2.5 years ago could have done better than May, I can also understand why Gove believes that with no time remaining its better to finish Brexit with this deal than risk no deal or no Brexit. I don't agree but I understand where he's coming from. Doesn't change my extraordinarily low opinion of May.
Michael Gove has decided that it is the best interests of Michael Gove for Michael Gove to be seen to be supporting May's deal at this time.
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
Hence my careful wording.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presente...t-hard-brexit/
The level of delusion is truly impressive.
Hope is the denial of reality
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