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    Well, this guy was put on a normal trial right? So it's not a vigilante thing in this case.
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    I didn't say that; my reservations pertained to Wiggin's idea of letting people other than the state look for these people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    I didn't say that; my reservations pertained to Wiggin's idea of letting people other than the state look for these people.
    Again, as no laws are broken.... It's a right, is it not?

    Huh, here's an interesting question. We take for granted that due process restricts the state to legal actions. But what if civilians obtain information through illegal means? This must be known through private investigators, corporate investigators, etc.

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11837918

    Am I missing something here? The guy wasn't extradited purely because he was a German citizen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ']['ear View Post
    Again, as no laws are broken.... It's a right, is it not?

    Huh, here's an interesting question. We take for granted that due process restricts the state to legal actions. But what if civilians obtain information through illegal means? This must be known through private investigators, corporate investigators, etc.
    Generally speaking, as long as law-enforcement/state authorities were not involved in any way in gathering the illegally-obtained information, it can be presented without violating due process. But it really depends on how lenient the judge is, how good both sides' lawyers are, and how much money the defense spreads around gathering information itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    Generally speaking, as long as law-enforcement/state authorities were not involved in any way in gathering the illegally-obtained information, it can be presented without violating due process. But it really depends on how lenient the judge is, how good both sides' lawyers are, and how much money the defense spreads around gathering information itself.
    And, when it comes out that the information was obtained by illegal means, the obtainer of said information may also find himself in hot water.
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