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  1. #31
    I don't think there is any choice involved in my being bi.
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by littlelolligagged View Post
    I don't think there is any choice involved in my being bi.
    Everyone is a little bi. Acting on desire is a choice.
    Faith is Hope (see Loki's sig for details)
    If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?

  3. #33
    Even if I am in love with you
    All this to say, what's it to you?
    Observe the blood, the rose tattoo
    Of the fingerprints on me from you

    Other evidence has shown
    That you and I are still alone
    We skirt around the danger zone
    And don't talk about it later

    Marlene watches from the wall
    Her mocking smile says it all
    As the records the rise and fall
    Of every soldier passing

    But the only soldier now is me
    I'm fighting things I cannot see
    I think it's called my destiny
    That I am changing

    Marlene on the wall

    I walk to your house in the afternoon
    By the butcher's shop with the sawdust strewn
    "Don't give away the goods too soon"
    Is what she might have told me

    And I tried so hard to resist
    When you held me in your handsome fist
    And reminded me of the night we kissed
    And of why I should be leaving

    Marlene watches from the wall
    Her mocking smile says it all
    As the records the rise and fall
    Of every man who's been here

    But the only one here now is me
    I'm fighting things I cannot see
    I think it's called my destiny
    That I am changing
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Being View Post
    Everyone is a little bi. Acting on desire is a choice.
    So I should just deny my desire, then?
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    But that's not an orientation/preference. That's a trust issue.
    Holding yourself above the rest isn't a trust issue.
    Faith is Hope (see Loki's sig for details)
    If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?

  6. #36
    I'm going to extend the reach of this thread. I can do that because I am special.

    Have you come across a situation in which you considered being gay; if you are straight. Just because. It turned you on. Maybe.
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Timbuk2 View Post
    It is a genuine question.

    It seems to me that there is a higher percentage of gay people here* than is a normal cross section of society, and I am curious firstly to know if that is so (and by what margin) and secondly why.




    *here - ataricc - whatever - you know wot i mean innit
    I would agree, there seems to be an unusually high concentration in these parts.
    Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"

  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by littlelolligagged View Post
    So I should just deny my desire, then?
    It's your choice. Why are you asking me?
    Faith is Hope (see Loki's sig for details)
    If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?

  9. #39
    Lolli, did I not explain it well?

    If you're bisexual then you can "mate" with either gender. If you'd found a man you loved and married, before you found a woman to call your wife, then to the rest of the world it wouldn't appear as bisexuality at all.

    But it would still have been a choice for you.

  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Timbuk2 View Post
    I'm going to extend the reach of this thread. I can do that because I am special.

    Have you come across a situation in which you considered being gay; if you are straight. Just because. It turned you on. Maybe.
    I've never been straight. Have you, sweetheart?

    Quote Originally Posted by Being View Post
    It's your choice. Why are you asking me?
    There's no choice involved, unless you consider choosing what gender I want to lay at an exact moment to be a choice.

    edit: Geegee - it's not like that would stop a bi person from being attracted to the unchosen gender, though.
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

  11. #41


    always

    but I've always known it

    I've played around with (male) friends in my youth, but in adulthood ive been sure neough
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

  12. #42
    *ENOUGH
    dammit
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

  13. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by littlelolligagged View Post
    I've never been straight. Have you, sweetheart?


    There's no choice involved, unless you consider choosing what gender I want to lay at an exact moment to be a choice.
    Persisting as a bi-sexual means you never have to settle for one or the other. That is your choice.
    Faith is Hope (see Loki's sig for details)
    If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?

  14. #44
    That's the underlying issue with bisexuality that no one likes to talk about. If bi's don't choose one gender or another, then they're really choosing serial monogamy (regardless of gender) or promiscuity over anything else.

    At least that's how I see it, correct me if I'm wrong or ignorant or something.

  15. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    That's the underlying issue with bisexuality that no one likes to talk about. If bi's don't choose one gender or another, then they're really choosing serial monogamy (regardless of gender) or promiscuity over anything else.

    At least that's how I see it, correct me if I'm wrong or ignorant or something.
    I wouldn't say that. You can commit for life, and still be attracted to other people. Hell, just think of movie-star crushes or whatnot. You don't have to act on an attraction for it to still exist.
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

  16. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Timbuk2 View Post
    I'm going to extend the reach of this thread. I can do that because I am special.

    Have you come across a situation in which you considered being gay; if you are straight. Just because. It turned you on. Maybe.
    Does a prostate exam turn you on?
    Faith is Hope (see Loki's sig for details)
    If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?

  17. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by littlelolligagged View Post
    I wouldn't say that. You can commit for life, and still be attracted to other people. Hell, just think of movie-star crushes or whatnot. You don't have to act on an attraction for it to still exist.
    That goes without saying, though. Hetero's commit for life and are still attracted to others.

    It's like the unknown part of the known orientation of bisexuals....do you feel like you're missing a huge part of your essence to commit one way or the other?

  18. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    That goes without saying, though. Hetero's commit for life and are still attracted to others.

    It's like the unknown part of the known orientation of bisexuals....do you feel like you're missing a huge part of your essence to commit one way or the other?
    Not really.
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

  19. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Being View Post
    Does a prostate exam turn you on?
    I've never had one.

    I've had an SIT test, which was ... functoinal.
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

  20. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by littlelolligagged View Post
    I wouldn't say that. You can commit for life, and still be attracted to other people. Hell, just think of movie-star crushes or whatnot. You don't have to act on an attraction for it to still exist.
    If you don't act on it then you can't claim carnal knowledge. You're not bi if all you do is wonder what it would be like.
    Faith is Hope (see Loki's sig for details)
    If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?

  21. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Being View Post
    If you don't act on it then you can't claim carnal knowledge. You're not bi if all you do is wonder what it would be like.
    What? If all I do is fantasize about sex, but don't act on it, I'm not a sexual being?

  22. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    What? If all I do is fantasize about sex, but don't act on it, I'm not a sexual being?
    If you are masterbating while fantasizing then you are acting on it. But that is more spiritual than carnal since the only flesh involved is your own.
    Faith is Hope (see Loki's sig for details)
    If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?

  23. #53
    I'm not sure I follow what you're saying, Being.

    If thoughts + stimulation = "acting", then what's that say for married/committed/monogamous couples who mentally fantasize about others, while having sex with their partner? Infidelity?

  24. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    I'm not sure I follow what you're saying, Being.

    If thoughts + stimulation = "acting", then what's that say for married/committed/monogamous couples who mentally fantasize about others, while having sex with their partner? Infidelity?
    I have known women who consider that equivalent to infidelity. I don't personally agree but then I'm scum in their eyes.
    Faith is Hope (see Loki's sig for details)
    If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?

  25. #55
    Just another diamond day
    Just a blade of grass
    Just another bale of hay
    And the horses pass.

    Just another field to plough
    Just a grain of wheat
    Just a sack of seed to sow
    And the children eat.

    Just another life to live
    Just a word to say
    Just another love to give
    And a diamond day


    EDIT in fact fuck that the lyrics suck watch the vid instead

    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

  26. #56
    So I take it they never asked you to put on some costume or accessories, but they'd wear a thong or push-up bra or corset (etc)?

    That's stupid and hypocritical. Wouldn't worry too much about those kinds of women considering you scum. Impossible double standards. gah

  27. #57
    Is this considered bisexual behavior?

    Faith is Hope (see Loki's sig for details)
    If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?

  28. #58
    Non-neutered male dogs will hump anything. Nothing to do with "sexual preference".

    (I think the next frame would show the cat clawing the dog in the face, with his tail between his legs )

  29. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    (I think the next frame would show the cat clawing the dog in the face, with his tail between his legs )
    Cats are satisfied too quickly. Poor dog gonna have to lick himself.
    Faith is Hope (see Loki's sig for details)
    If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?

  30. #60
    It seems that some people here could benefit by reading a bit more about bisexuality.

    Bisexuality: The Punching Bag Orientation

    I’ve said it before and watched jaws drop: yes, bisexuals have it rough. Rougher than gays and lesbians in many cases. Now, before my queer-friendly peers burst a blood vessel and skip down to the comments, let me explain.

    A friend of mine (and fellow bisexual) visited a local Pride march recently and reported back on fantastic floats featuring every obscure group and quirky facet of the LGBT community. As he watched the riotously populated “Dykes on Bikes” and “Trans on Trampolines” floats go by, he waited eagerly for a float representing his orientation. His spirits dropped to see six people ambling quickly by with a hastily-made sign.

    The truth is that bisexuals aren’t very active in the LGBT community, even though our “B” forms a core part of the group’s constituency. Bisexuals don’t feel fully at home in either the gay or straight communities, possibly because we don’t feel fully understood by either group. Many people, straight or gay, understand gender preference with a Kinsey Scale mentality: a straight man likes women, a gay man likes men, and a bisexual man likes both. But bisexuality isn’t a gender preference for both genders; it’s a lack of gender preference for either. For most bisexuals, the gender of the person they find attractive is substantially less important than who that person is. We’re not in the middle of the Kinsey scale; we’re off the chart altogether.

    For people who understand sexual attraction on a binary scale, bisexuals will always be misunderstood. This can lead to a lot of ugly misrepresentations and stereotypes perpetrated by both communities. Bisexual erasure (reframing history’s famous bisexual figures as gay), bisexual denial (denying that bisexuality does or can exist), bisexual exploitation (the continuing portrayal of bisexuality as trendy or edgy “sweeps week” material within the media) and biphobia are all very real things. You wouldn’t believe the number of intelligent, educated, open-minded people who have scoffed at my sexuality–yes, to my face!

    “Bi now, gay later” is a phrase I’ve heard a lot. If gay individuals are reluctant to come out of the closet, they may choose to label themselves as “bisexual” and until they’re ready to transition to “homosexual.” It’s a really common occurrence, and it has led to a misconception that all bisexuals are in some sort of limbo. A bisexual woman (such as myself) is really just a straight girl who likes to get drunk and make out with other women to attract a horny heterosexual male gaze, and a bisexual man is just a gay man who’s too full of fear and self-loathing to come out of the closet. Bisexuality is also sometimes treated like a membership card that can be taken away. If a bisexual woman has several long-term relationships with both genders but eventually marries a man, it’s not because she found her soul mate and he happened to be a dude–it’s because she wasn’t really bisexual all along. But choosing to be part of a heterosexual relationship doesn’t mean we’re choosing to be part of heteronormativity, nor does it invalidate our feelings for previous partners.

    My non-bi friends have sometimes implied that by being bisexual, dating should be easy because my dating pool is essentially doubled. This myth of the bisexual slut (see “any old hole will do!”) is especially hurtful, because the truth is that a large portion of the population feels uncomfortable dating bisexuals. Some worry that they won’t be able to satisfy all of their needs in the long term and that eventually they will leave for another gender. Unless a bisexual is dating a fellow bisexual (which is hard, because we’re a statistically small group) they’re dating someone of a different sexual orientation. Can you imagine how hard that could become over time?

    Of course, some people refuse to consider bisexual partners altogether. For some, it’s because of their disdainful attitudes toward opposing orientations; I once was told casually by a lesbian (who didn’t realize I was bi) that bisexual women were like rats bringing the plagues of HIV and venereal disease into “our” community–ouch! Biphobia rears its ugly head. Our unconventional sexual preference isn’t made easier because we can “pass” as heterosexual at least half of the time; biphobia, heterophobia, and homophobia can hurt us equally.

    To facilitate a better understanding between bisexuals and our gay and straight neighbors, we need find new language. The term “bisexuality” has been hijacked (not necessarily with ill intention) by those who are unsure of their sexuality, don’t feel comfortable defining themselves, or just want attention. In other words, it’s become a label rather than a description. I’ve picked up the word “pansexual” to avoid perpetuating the gender binary and its associated misconceptions. Those individuals who feel unsure of their sexuality should be free to call themselves “Questioning” without pressure, from either community, to “hurry up and pick a side.” No matter how well we think we can “tell” what someone’s true orientation will one day be, it’s not anyone’s place to cast doubt upon it. And don’t assume that the man and woman walking hand-in-hand down the street are heterosexual. We may blend in easily, but we’re here too.
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