I hope they're going to stop lying now.Originally Posted by Timbuk2
I hope they're going to stop lying now.
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Not good. He needs to rest and forget about politics, just fight this now.
Raab has been made deputy (and basically acting) PM. Definitely would not have been my choice but hopefully it's a case of just carry on with things as they are until he recovers.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
The "acting" Sec of Navy (a political appointee) is a disgrace; his apology to Captain Crozier was pathetic and *stupid*. This is another one of Trump's "good job, Brownie" failures, along with Jared and Navarro. A disaster within a disaster.
So, they tell us the British PM has no pneumonia, but they don't tell us that his lungs are infected and probably damaged by the virus. Is there some delicate line between the two conditions? Or am I mistaken in the belief that healthy lungs don't need extra oxygen?
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They did a report on this on Sky earlier today, apparently there's a whole spectrum of ways the body can react to this virus and reasons (and severity) for oxygen and ICU.
Underlying theme though is you don't go to ICU unless you're very sick.
True, but it doesn't explain why they are so intent on telling us what he doesn't have.
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Or you're a VIP who gets special monitoring 'just in case' things go downhill fast and turn into ARDS. Let's hope that's the case for Johnson, and that he'll recover without needing a vent....because that changes his odds dramatically. Excellent video:
https://www.nytimes.com/video/health...-syndrome.html
Those charts are interesting but not very predictive. See India.
Sanity check: Why does it seem like people in general are taking China's numbers at face value? I mean, they could be accurate; it makes sense that an authoritarian government would have an easier time controlling the spread of the virus than countries that put more priority on human rights than on power and control, but the mechanisms that exist in developed nations that would blow the whistle if the government tried to suppress figures simply don't exist in China. Has everyone forgotten that we know they've suppressed reports of the virus early on and a long history of censorship and lying? They declared the virus defeated nearly a month ago, so they have the motivation to lie to save face. We've had plenty of reports that the newer more contagious strain that evolved somewhere outside of China has entered the country, and I'm having trouble believing that they've locked that down so much better than the less contagious one they started with.
The numbers are entirely bogus. There's no way to tell what the reality is on the ground. Too much incentive to lie and too much experience doing so.
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People in general take the Chinese figures at face value? That would be very foolish. They've been telling lies about the crisis from the moment the virus infected the first human being.
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That's the impression that I'm getting - people keep comparing other countries numbers to Chinese numbers, for instance. I've seen it so often from so many places that I've been starting to wonder. A news report from Bloomberg I saw today about how China has completely defeated the virus was what prompted this - they got through the whole report without raising any doubts about the accuracy of their reported numbers.
Major news organizations who complain too loudly about Chinese interpretation of events tend to have their press credentials withdrawn.
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I thought that was what they were fucking doing when I started hearing about PPE shortages and confiscations. Wish I'd posted about it now, I'd look pretty cool.
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
Yeah, private corporations bidding against FEMA. The federal stock pile that isn't for states. Governors who suck up to Trump just have to make a phone call to Jared (the federal gov't isn't a shipping clerk, some states just didn't plan very well).
*Anyone who wants a test can get a test* There will be MILLIONS of tests available* The tests are beautiful and perfect* There's no shortage of PPE or ventilators* We've done more testing than any other nation*
Trump's "task force" is a joke
You misspelt farce in the last sentence.
Trump's daily "task force" briefings are also a farce. It's the Trump TV reality shit show. omg we are so screwed!
Doesn't matter: the scientists who study epidemiology and pandemics raised the red alert in January, based simply on the fact that a *novel* SARS-related virus was identified in humans. Every decision after that was politically motivated.
ie we can't blame China for our political missteps.
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I don't know about this one... on the one hand, horrifically stupid and incompetent to fail to heed the warning signs. On the other hand, good instincts to ignore perennial dumbfuck Navarro.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
When in doubt, blame China. Or the last administration (Obama). Maybe blame the media, or the Deep State, yeah that sounds good. Anything to avoid taking responsibility or accountability for failures in leadership. That is the Trump Doctrine.
A dog in Hong Kong and a tiger in the Bronx zoo have tested positive for covid-19. The only reason we know that is because journalists have been reporting *facts*. We don't know what that means for human health, or Public Health policy, but the Trump Doctrine is all about obfuscating *facts* and portraying the press/media as Fake News or part of the Deep State.
Don't believe what you're reading or hearing, says the Dear Leader. And remember, only he can solve our problems!
Is it possible that the conservative political establishment consists of actual morons?
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Do we need a moron-interpreter at every interview with a Trump admin official?
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
The Trump admin certainly is.
Trump is turning his pandemic, that has a projected death total of hundreds of thousands. into his personal $2 trillion slush fund.
https://www.axios.com/trump-inspecto...44483d847.html
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
Pts no longer staying away from ER, and covid cases on the rise, so being on call is getting more challenging. Now, every little thing I do requires more consideration, more planning, and often much more time. It'll be a while before this starts to feel normal. Lot of reorganization at my hospital and we're now testing every patient that gets admitted irrespective of index of suspicion. Results still take far too long (usually not in until the following weekday). Serological tests haven't been rolled out yet, but there are large and growing supplies ready to be deployed upon official validation. Trials of convalescent plasma therapy starting. One thing I've been wondering about re. appropriate approach to ventilation in ICU-pts is being more widely discussed, with more evidence mounting that many of these pts don't have a typical ARDS phenotype, suggesting a possibility that rigid adherence to protocol-based approach for their treatment—as opposed to approach informed by physiology & clinical phenotype—may be doing harm. I don't want to be overly optimistic but think trials comparing different approaches to ventilation guided by clinical phenotype may have a great impact on outcomes in the absence of effective antiviral treatment & treatment of presumed cytokine storm.
There's continuing—and slowly growing—disappointment in our ministry of public health, esp. in their inadequate—and dodgy—communication strategy; I'm concerned about their Trumpian framing of how our strategy should be evaluated. Swedish parliament has voted to give our minority govt. greater authority to implement lockdown measures, subject to ongoing evaluation; important move, but perhaps belated (although unlikely govt. would've implemented such measures without explicit recommendation from ministry of public health even if it had had the authority). Easter coming up, will be a lot of time spent with family. It turns out our baby daughter loves curry and hindi music—who knew?! Must remember to give ourselves opportunities to keep discovering who we are.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Good luck. It's unfortunate that doctors and nurses have to pay the price for government incompetence. I expected more from the Swedish government.
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Isn't it fairly normal to keep a patient with pneumonia in as upright a position as blood pressure will allow?
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Normally maybe.
Everything I've read has said that putting patients with Covid-19 in a prone position (lying face down) is far better for their survival odds.
Brits still partying like it's 1999 ...
Fucking street parties?Coronavirus: Greater Manchester Police warning after 660 parties shut down
Greater Manchester Police has warned people not to breach lockdown rules over Easter after it had to break up 660 parties last weekend.
Chief Constable Ian Hopkins said "each and every one of us need take this seriously".
There were 1,132 coronavirus-related breaches reported between Saturday and Tuesday, the force said.
That included 494 house parties - some with DJs, fireworks and bouncy castles - and 166 street parties.
One woman in Bury became the first person in Greater Manchester to be charged under the Coronavirus Act 2020 after police had to repeatedly shut down one of the parties.
The force also had to deal with 122 different groups gathering to play sports, 173 more gatherings in parks and 112 incidents of anti-social behaviour and public disorder.
Bloody Manc idiots.
This is not the time to be 24 Hour Party People.
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