@ Tear Lurker

[Timbuk2]

Atari was where I unashamedly abused inconsistencies in rules and moderators in order to say anything I wanted. I viewed it dispassionately as a vehicle for the levels of schadenfreude one could not hope to give voice IRL and my entire approach was thus utterly selfish.
It was opportunistic, vindictive and created frustrating levels of discord for members who genuinely sought the sense of community. The truly ugly fact about it though, is that I was aware of this practically the entire time, but couldn't see any way to undo the infamy, and thus in some twisted way, I enjoyed it.

Ok. This is quite an admission. And to be honest I was surprised to see you here, as I seem to remember a parting of shot of yours at the other place was that you would not be joining the new community if/when it moved.

I never tangled with you Widows, in fact we had a few good conversations, but I think just about every other regular member did tangle with you.

The only thing I did get upset about your ugly behaviour was that it drove gogobongopop away; you two had a barney, he said enough is enough and walked away, and has not returned to the fold since. At least that's how I remember it. I wish he'd come back.

In hindsight, it was likely more or less the conflict that surrounded myself (and quite a few others) which contributed towards the conditions surrounding AtariForums' demise.

Fairly certain there were policy changes higher up in the Atari chain, and that the modding revamps were nothing to do with anything untoward in the forums. Dread et al would know more.

I created an account here, made a few lightweight posts and observed, but hovering above that was the stubborn idea that perhaps a collective apology thread would not be untoward??

Don't think it would be necessary, though the notion is nice.

As my remarks over the Tear debacle have clearly stated, I am all for inclusiveness, and I will back anyone who holds their hand up and admits to previously shitty behaviour.

An apology thread would just be OTT though I think.

Everyone likes to move on.

[Dreadnaught]

Atari was where I unashamedly abused inconsistencies in rules and moderators in order to say anything I wanted...The truly ugly fact about it though, is that I was aware of this practically the entire time, but couldn't see any way to undo the infamy, and thus in some twisted way, I enjoyed it.

Well at least you finally admit you were deliberately being an ass. Though I don't think you were abusing inconsistencies, you sure got plenty of warnings. You were just aware that we rarely instabanned ban people expressly for being an ass. And I didn't want to ban you because you were clearly more intelligent and funny than most people in DBZ. Can't speak for Timothy though...then again Timothy might be a sociopath for staying over there.

In hindsight, it was likely more or less the conflict that surrounded myself (and quite a few others) which contributed towards the conditions surrounding AtariForums' demise.
Anyone reading this disagree?

Nah, far from it. The place had an axe over its head for years. We came close to being nuked a few times, especially when a CC forum veteran went haywire and sent spammish ranting e-mails to Atari execs complaining that the moderators were a racist, anti-semitic, anti-American cabal bent on undermining Atari.

Many of the mods struggled mightily to stop it from becoming what it is, but ultimately Atari got Atarded on it and imposed crazy rules. Your personality had nothing to do with Atari demanding we enforce rules banning all frustration, emotion and complaints. It just took a while before Atari decided to do its thing and screw the place up.

But I think we're the better for it over here in a lot of ways. EG I can say that it's time I fucking get to work. And that Timothy might be a sociopath.

[EyeKhan]

I found him though, through his connections with Moo3 projects I believe and his online business identity as a programmer, even his location, associations and a record with Ohio state police.
His paranoia was justified I believe.

No Shit!?! That is frackin' hilarious. For a moment I was going to ask you to PM me his address and I'd send him a letter, but now that I think of it, I'd rather not take the risk.

[Crowheart]

In hindsight, it was likely more or less the conflict that surrounded myself (and quite a few others) which contributed towards the conditions surrounding AtariForums' demise.
Anyone reading this disagree?

Yeah I disagree.
If anything Atari was ludicrously out of touch with their community, had no idea who they were or what they wanted, and had no interest in listening to the truth when it was warned what would happen to the site as consequence.

It didn't matter what anyone in the community did or didn't do..they decided beforehand, and ignored anything that wasn't syncophantic yes-manning from a mod I won't name called Timmy.

I like this site better actually...less bullshit, even from before Atari decided to do it's monkey fucking a football impression.

[RandBlade]

Cain's been banned a few times.

[EyeKhan]

Cain's been banned a few times.

This is permaban we're talking about, right?

[Catgrrl]

Cain is most likely in hiding from the law, or in Federal prison. Just sayin'

[Bitter Jeweler]

LF, you would really put up with that from a friend?

I wouldn't voluntarily accept that behaviour myself, and would say so, or start distancing myself.
I don't like being around hostile people, and as a real life example, I made some potential new friends, a married couple, and after seeing how the husband treated the wife while they worked together, I felt these aren't people I want to be around.

[EyeKhan]

LF, you would really put up with that from a friend?

I wouldn't voluntarily accept that behaviour myself, and would say so, or start distancing myself.
I don't like being around hostile people, and as a real life example, I made some potential new friends, a married couple, and after seeing how the husband treated the wife while they worked together, I felt these aren't people I want to be around.

I don't like to be around hostile people either, which is ironic since I have no other way to interact with my family.

[rumrunner]

If the behavior was an aberrant expression of some medical/psychological condition, I would put my best effort into helping a friend through it. Tolerating some abuse (non-physical of course) if necessary. But at some point I would have to draw the line, so-to-speak. But, as has been pointed out, he chose to abuse us who have no special inclination or need to put up with such behavior. If it was that bad, he should have sought professional help. Instead he heaped as much bile as he desired onto these boards, without regard. Health issues aside, he still chose to act on his impulses, and nobody should be forced to endure such abuse when he failed to even try avoiding posting. I was once told that we are not required to post every word we type. But then, most of you already knew that.

[RandBlade]

If people are hostile IRL it's possible to cut off from them to, even family.

Sadly this has happened with Amanda. Due to a confrontational event between myself and her sister's boyfriend, her sister became pissed off with me and then her and said that Amanda was "dead to her" and they haven't spoken for about six months. After we moved house we decided together not to tell her sister our new address. Considering her sister is the only family she has in the UK this has been quite upsetting for her

[Dreadnaught]

That's pretty awful. What kind of fight did you have?

[Dreadnaught]

Well maybe if he'd stop doing illegal things...sorta wish he stopped by every so often.

[Catgrrl]

Bah don't say his name three times or else he may come back

[Khendraja'aro]

Bah don't say his name three times or else he may come back

Hastur. Hastur. Hastur.

[Adamant]

Well I wouldn't drink with or gamble with Cain on account of his semi-automatic weapon pointed at my nads under the table, whereas I assume you're a weapon in the bedroom, so I'd probly go there.

(That would be foolish, think about all you've accomplished)

[Adamant]

I thought he was rumrunner initially.

[Wraith]

I thought he was rumrunner initially.

That actually happens a lot. I've never seen it myself.

[rumrunner]

I thought he was rumrunner initially.

Hell no. In fact, under my first Atari account I lambasted his ass for comments about the military. Specifically his claim that a soldier's job is to die. Strangely enough I immediately confessed my sin to dread, as if he would not have seen it anyway. I may be many things, but I am not cain.

[Catgrrl]

Really? I never thought that.

[Adamant]

He did celebrate his own unabated alcoholism and gambling quite frequently while still maintaining those vices made him some sort of superior humanoid.

[littlelolligagged]

Well I think my whoring makes me a superior humanoid, what's your point?


(I'm joking, I'm saving myself for marriage)

[Timbuk2]

(I'm joking, I'm saving myself for marriage)

[Dreadnaught]

I think we should all send him a postcard.

[EyeKhan]

I think we should all send him a postcard.

That really would be funny as hell.

[Lor]

That really would be funny as hell.

I genuinely believe someone should do something, a post card or a letter would be awesome. Especially if it gets him back here where we'll get a comment.

Oh and you must share with us a pic/scan of said postcard or letter.

[EyeKhan]

I genuinely believe someone should do something, a post card or a letter would be awesome. Especially if it gets him back here where we'll get a comment.

Oh and you must share with us a pic/scan of said postcard or letter.

I'll do it. Someone PM me the address.

[Being]

I can't believe you guys want to entice the biggest crybaby the board has ever seen to come back here. Didn't we just get rid of one? Zuchov was much more disruptive than Tear has ever been...how many different spellings did he use to come back and attack the mods with verbal insults? Whatever...just be careful what you wish for.

[Dreadnaught]

I'm game if you're game.

[Bitter Jeweler]

That's funny!

I won't. He's only 2 hours away from me.