You sure he's not going to eke out 538?
You sure he's not going to eke out 538?
Hope is the denial of reality
One can dream...Originally Posted by Loki
You sure he's not going to eke out 538?
I really wish it was Tuesday. I really really wish it was Tuesday. Waiting is driving me nuts. Tomorrow is either going to be very disappointing or amazingly wonderful. I was a lot more confident a few days ago but now its getting crunch time. In 2004 I was confident in Bush. In 2008 I knew it was over. This is the first election in 12 years that I'm watching closely. Other then the flip flops Romney is the model for what I think a president should be.
If it's a really close election, you won't know the result tomorrow.
Hope is the denial of reality
Most of the battleground states are EST or CT time right? barring any extreme surprises, we could know the president before most of California's polls close (9pm PST right?).
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
Your definition of really close sounds like Bush/Gore. 1-2% is really close in my book. All of the major swing states are central or Eastern time zoned. Where Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Iowa, Wisconsin and Virginia go are going to be what probably decides the election. Maybe... Nevada and Colorado may matter - we'll see.If it's a really close election, you won't know the result tomorrow.
It is likely we'll know the winner by Midnight - its pretty damned rare for something else to happen. The only one that happened in living memory (for me at least) was 2000.
The major networks have been burned too many times with early calls. They won't call some of the swing states until most of the ballots have been counted, which probably means waiting for Ohio. If Romney loses Virginia, then Ohio is irrelevant, but Virginia will probably be too close too call until most of the ballots are counted as well.
Truly close elections are pretty rare. Other than Bush's talent at winning close ones (<50 electoral vote difference), we haven't seen such an election since 1916 (the one before that was 1876).
I could also tell you right now with 99.9% certainty which way Wisconsin and Pennsylvania will go.
Hope is the denial of reality
I'd bet a dollar to your $1,000.The major networks have been burned too many times with early calls. They won't call some of the swing states until most of the ballots have been counted, which probably means waiting for Ohio. If Romney loses Virginia, then Ohio is irrelevant, but Virginia will probably be too close too call until most of the ballots are counted as well.
Truly close elections are pretty rare. Other than Bush's talent at winning close ones (<50 electoral vote difference), we haven't seen such an election since 1916 (the one before that was 1876).
I could also tell you right now with 99.9% certainty which way Wisconsin and Pennsylvania will go.
I'm curious about what this means. Could you flesh it out a bit more? What about Romney makes him a model for what a president should be?
I'll one up you, and bet you $10k of Dread's money.I'd bet a dollar to your $1,000.
Hope is the denial of reality
Understanding of the economy.
Business background.
Proven leadership ability.
Reality based approach (of course 47% don't care about tax cuts... they don't pay income tax!) to politics.
Romney gets the issues with the country. He understands the importance of free markets. He is not a social issues ideologue, he is a free market champion.
Beyond the talking point, what does a reality based approach mean? How is he going to translate his business background into real economic growth? And what of Romney's idea of a free market - what essentially was a Massachusetts based ACA. How is that championing the free markets? He's pushed gun control, he's been consistently big government on his take on drugs and individual liberty. That's your ideal president?
This man might be the lesser of your two evils, but I'm struggling to see how he's a model president.
"Ideal" doesn't exist in mainstream politics.
As to your questions - Romney did a great job in the business world. He knows success and he knows what it takes to get there. He understands the reality of what businesses face, he understands the crushing burden of over regulation. That business background will allow him to see the unintended consequences of crap legislation like Frank Dodd.
Massachusetts health care could of gone a lot more liberal. Remember the state he was win...
I disagree with gun control however he's not in favor of it now.
We could nitpick any politician. Name one in the last 20 years who was a serious candidate of the presidency that didn't have flaws and issues you disagreed with him or her on. Romney is not perfect (the flip flops irritate me) but he was a business leader and he understands the world of commerce. This can not be understated. Of all the folks running in the primaries this year he was the one that gets the economy. He's the one with real leadership experience and he's the best suited for the job.
You can blame the base of the Republican Party for becoming so ideological that it's unwilling to accept anyone who disagrees with it on any issue of importance. It's no longer possible for a truly moderate Republican to get a nomination. Anyone who wants the GOP nomination now has to be in lockstep with the base on every single freaking issue. That means you either get candidates who are extremists (see Bachmann/Santorum/Huckabee) or who end up having to lie/change their positions (see McCain/Romney). Of course it doesn't help that the upper echelons of the Democratic Party are almost entirely devoid of centrists now.
Hope is the denial of reality
Then it's too bad he's not going to win, isn't it?
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
OMG I can't wait for people to stop posting about this on social networks.
http://www.theonion.com/video/how-to...n-elect,30257/
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
I can't wait for Romney to become irrelevant again. Two candidates make more noise than one.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Only to be replaced by a plethora of Republicans and Democrats who'll be starting the 2016 campaign.
Hope is the denial of reality
Obama winning Ohio according to the exit poll, I stand by my prediction that its all but over due to the electoral college for Romney now ...
Obama's probably going to narrowly win the popular vote anyway.
Hope is the denial of reality
Beeb is calling Ohio too close to call.
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
BBC has been pretending it's a close overall race as well. Either its producers are ratings-whores or plain stupid.
Hope is the denial of reality
All journalists seem to say its even, all pundits (betters) seem to say Obama will win.
Money rules.
So are the journalists that stupid or are they willing to destroy their integrity to get higher ratings?
Hope is the denial of reality
Just so you know, I'm going to make both of you eat these words if Romney wins.
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
We are on opposites sides of this particular debate... but to answer your question. Sacrifice integrity to get higher ratings? Duh.
The problem is that places like CNN and BBC get voters due to their supposed integrity. If they fool people, they're not going to get them to watch next time.
Not much of a chance of that happening. I'm more concerned about the Senate races in Connecticut and Massachusetts, though I have a bad feeling those won't end well either.
Hope is the denial of reality
With a certain kind of beans and wine?
Brevior saltare cum deformibus viris est vita
I actually had a nightmare the other night that Romney won. The nightmare wasn't about his victory but it was just one more unnerving/horrific ingredient. I almost share Steely's fear.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
I feel better about it now I can rub Loki's face in his surety that Obama has it wrapped up if Romney wins.
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
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