It does make the adventure game genre a lot more appreciable. FPS and RTS games are becoming more and more crassly commercial in today's gaming age. Gems like Quest for Glory and Loom and so on seem to have greater value for their rarity. They hark back to a different time.
What about things like LA Noir? I've not played that yet. Looks adventure-ish.
The commercialization leads to a more stream-lined, mass-appeal product. Have you tried playing a Roberta Williams game lately? The woman was fucking insane. The fact that her product sold speaks of the market at the time, and they're not good things being said over there.
Hell, half of Space Quest is absolute garbage, and that was one of the more reasonable series.
In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
I remember most of the awesome factor for King's Quest and such was the graphics of it, which was so cool compared to merely being informed that "You have been killed by a Grue."
But yeah, the whole, "grab the knife, carve a jack-o-lantern, which scares the seagull who drops a feather, combine the feather with a piano leg and create a duster, and tickle the cat's anus so he barfs up the golden key" logic was rather bizarre.
I for one loved the Monkey Island series, but lets not forget that much of the gameplay was about trying random combinations of items on other items or hotspots.
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I could have been somebody. Instead of a bum
Which is what I am
I aim at the stars
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Most of the old LucasArts adventure games were ahead of their time. Full Throttle has held up remarkably well against the test of time.Originally Posted by Ziggy Stardust
Even Day of the Tentacle is okay-ish but you might want to get the solution on hand either way.
In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
So I played Skyrim most of the night.... that is all. Sleep time.
Such is Life...
I loved the Roberta Williams games, and LucasArts.
LA Noire is good, I suppose its Adventurish. Action-Adventure I suppose.
Slightly after the time studios noticed that FPS shooters are insanely easy to mass-market, produce and harvest vast quantities of cash from. Investors and developers go where the money is, and it's not in quality gameplay and good writing (even Bioware's been cutting way back on that in favor of purty looking polygons and lots of shit to kill), it's in getting as many possible morons as you can to spend as much money as possible for 8 hours of repetitive killing action. [Yes, that's a dig at the CoD series.]
<shrug>
Like asking why every game's gotta have an online component these days. Companies noticed that that's where the money is. Get as many morons as possible to pay you *every month* for the opportunity to play against other morons in a repetitive fashion. It's just a force of nature. Nothing you can do about it, short of helping me become a billionaire so I can run a video gaming shop at a massive loss to create quality titles.
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-- Thomas Jefferson: American Founding Father, clairvoyant and seditious traitor.
How did RPG-makers make money before? As far as I know, it's not that sales of RPGs went down, but rather sales of other games went up. Or is this just about profit margins?
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Development costs went up.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Right. You want to sell a game these days, it's got to have "good graphics," which means a 3D engine and multiple manyears of development time just in drawing your game world, both of which are very expensive. Can't just corral a few geeks and a few creative-types together and have them make a game with an image editor, a text editor and a compiler anymore.
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-- Thomas Jefferson: American Founding Father, clairvoyant and seditious traitor.
Are games, with their lust for digital total immersion, an evolutionary step on the pathway towards Transhumanism?
Is Alber still here? (In human form, anyway)
No, and no.
In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
For example, Oblivion had 1 person design the dungeons in that game. Skyrim had 8.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
And yet they are strikingly similar...
Such is Life...
And Diablo's dungeons are designed by the RNG. Speaking of which, is Diablo 3 out yet?
In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
I reinstalled and played LOD a couple of weeks ago but I must be getting old or something coz my fingers couldn't handle all that clicking...
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I never got around to finding Internet buddies for it, and single-player doesn't generate enough loot to effectively collect any impressive sets, let alone specialized builds that were the main focus of the multi-player community. Or are, they're still at it.
I did like Torchlight but I wanted more character classes
In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
There's still some online trading going on; I picked up a few items a few months ago.
Each ladder reboot is a fairly popular event, given how old the game actually is. It's not WoW, but come on
In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
That's been my ultimate complaint with it too. It's all well and good with the modding community for the game, but I want more ways in which to kill things! And it depresses me that Torchlight II will only have four classes, even if they are different that the three we had in the original.I did like Torchlight but I wanted more character classes
Sure you can, plenty of development operations like that for things like the smartphone. You just can't do it for the PC, demand has shifted toward more involved products that take advantage of the platform's greater resources. And it's not just art assets, though they are a biggie.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Right, right. Though I somehow doubt we'll be seeing a good ol' RPG or TBS (etc) being released as an iPhone app either.
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-- Thomas Jefferson: American Founding Father, clairvoyant and seditious traitor.
So, on the subject of Skyrim, is "this" as deep as it gets? Superficial interactions, shallow... "quests" (tasks, really), and nothing to do in this huge game world but go kill stuff in different locations? I'm level 20, still in Whiterun and it's already starting to feel like a lot of the same ol', same ol', with no real hook to keep me jonesing for one more turn or battle or adventure, like the good games always do.
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-- Thomas Jefferson: American Founding Father, clairvoyant and seditious traitor.
Been watching Amazon's Black Friday sales, and today is finally worth mentioning. A good 50%+ off on some quality titles. Magicka for $2.50, Amnesia for $5, and Witcher 2 for $16
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.htm...ildsplaycha-20 (Child's Play Referral).
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
Mmmm yeh by and large I'd agree. It's fairly dry and non-too involving.
However, though I'm still only level 14, a recent chain of events came about with which I was fairly impressed, and which I thought was nicely done.
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If I get a little bored with the dungeon crawling grind I always see this as a sign I need to move on with the real quest to get some storyline in. About time I visit some more cities.
I also went back to a Helgen just to see what has become of it. Very Art Wrecko.
Dragons have become a breeze. If I am going to replay, I might do it as the talky bard/thief I was planning to play as in Obliviion.
edit: I saw LA Noir is out on pc. Anyone played that one?
I could have had class. I could have been a contender.
I could have been somebody. Instead of a bum
Which is what I am
I aim at the stars
But sometimes I hit London
Yeah.
Technically impressive, gameplay-wise...not so much.
Interesting at first, but gets old, disappointing that how well you do or don't investigate/interrogate doesn't really affect how the case ends, beautiful open world, with absolutely nothing to do in it...(actually, there are random crimes, but they are nothing special)..action elements are average.
Don't know..it's different, and what they are trying to do is neat.
Ultimately, after it was over, I was "Meh, next."
Not a bad game by any means, but nowhere near as cool as I'd hoped it would be.
I enjoyed it but haven't finished it (very close to the end though when went on holiday, came back started playing other games).
Can't imagine it has any replayability at all.
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) was rubbing out the evil old orphanage lady. Even though she deserved it. Sort of. Maybe. For not being nice to the kids in her care. Possibly. Anyway.