You're assuming this kind of behavior was always the norm from Israel. Except it's newsworthy precisely because it's not the norm.
You're assuming this kind of behavior was always the norm from Israel. Except it's newsworthy precisely because it's not the norm.
Hope is the denial of reality
I’ve been thinking more about this. This current genocide is a foregone conclusion. Let’s focus on the roots of this ‘conflict'.Originally Posted by Loki
How many warcrimes do you think grandpa and daddy of these IDF war criminals also committed?
We already know from Tantura that lots of horrific warcrimes were committed, because soldiers who were there admitted to doing them. If they had not addmited to them, would you believe that they had been committed based on testimony of Arab victims and witnesses? If not, what would prevent you from believing them?
Do you need the war crimes to be on camera to believe that Israel committed them? Or an New Israeli historian to write about them based on documents from the archives?
Will you believe Israel every single time when they deny it, only to later ignore it when video evidence or some other type of irrefutable evidence comes to light?
Do you think if they had camera phones and TikTok, grandpa Zionist too would have filmed their warcrimes and shared them with the world with glee?
Are you willing to explore your unconscious bias and racism?
Oh come onwith the "genocide" rhetoric.
Oh but it was always the norm. I’m sure you knew about it but dismissed it as antisemitic lies against Israel, which fed into your narrative of Israel being constantly victimised by a brutal a people who originally got the land by force.
The threshold of evidence required to believe Palestinians has almost always been, and is, video evidence, whereas Jews/Israelis are taken at their word. This racism is still reflected in the editorial style of most western main stream media. There’s plenty of studies out there that examine this subject.
There’s so many examples. The great broadcast is one spread by many Israeli apologists. It literally takes lots of dissenting Jews to say the truth before people take it seriously. Palestinians be damned.
Hasbara clowns were still pushing very hard that the emergency workers didn’t have lights on, were not identifiable whilst advancing ect so needed to be murdered. Their words were given weight. Until the video evidence against them was discovered and released.
There is a meme floating around. “Imagine what they did when we couldn’t see their crimes on our phones.”
1. Erskine Childers (British journalist and author, 1961)
“The most powerful single weapon in Israel’s propaganda armoury has been the charge that the Arab states exhorted the Arabs of Palestine to leave… Every broadcast I monitored in 1948 urged the Arabs to stay and fight.”
Source: The Spectator, May 12, 1961
Childers personally reviewed British and American monitoring of Arab radio broadcasts during 1948 and found no evidence of any such general call to flee.
2. Benny Morris (Israeli historian, former “New Historian”)
“There is no evidence that the Arab states or the Arab Higher Committee ordered or encouraged the mass exodus of the Arabs of Palestine. The notion of such orders is a fabrication.”
Source: The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem, 1947–1949 (Cambridge University Press, 1988)
Morris had access to newly declassified Israeli archives and concluded that Israeli military actions, fear, and chaos were the primary causes of the exodus.
3. Walid Khalidi (Palestinian historian)
“The claim that the Arab leaders called on the Palestinians to leave their homes is a myth. Most of the exodus occurred due to direct military assaults or fear of such assaults.”
Source: From Haven to Conquest: Readings in Zionism and the Palestine Problem Until 1948 (Institute for Palestine Studies, 1971)
Khalidi was one of the first to systematically dismantle the “broadcast myth” using both Arab and Zionist sources.
4. The BBC and CIA monitoring reports (1948)
Neither BBC Monitoring Service nor the CIA’s contemporaneous records found broadcasts from Arab leaders instructing a general evacuation. What they did find were:
- Broadcasts urging civilians to stay in place.
- Warnings about the dangers of flight.
These reports were used in later diplomatic efforts but were largely ignored by public narratives.
5. Israeli military documents (Haganah archives)
Some declassified orders and field reports suggest that forced expulsions were part of military strategy:
“The cleansing of the village was carried out with the help of loudspeakers calling to flee.”
— From a Palmach (elite unit) field report, cited by Benny Morris.
Bottom line:
There’s no historical record supporting the idea of a “great Arab broadcast” telling Palestinians to leave en masse. That claim was propagated after the war and widely repeated in Israeli rhetoric to absolve responsibility for the refugee crisis.
Just because you didn’t see a video of it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Did you ever watch the documentary Tantura, made by an Israeli Jew? Tantura was a village that was ethnically cleansed in 1948. Most of it is video and audio confessions of crimes by the soldiers who were part of Zionist gangs involved in the establishment of Israel. Zionists put the child of a baker into his oven. And then threw his father in too. This is Zionism. These are the crimes that Israel needed to do to enact its ‘right to exist’.
I get it. You’ve grown up in a space where you’ve been told everyone hates you and the holocaust has been drilled in to you. You probably believed the narrative. But now the powers that be have a harder time controlling the flow of information. What has changed is that everyone has a camera in their hands now. If you look at the data only the boomers who are mostly reliant on legacy media still hold the same views they did now as 30 years ago when the Information Age had not really kicked in.
Surely there has to come a point where you have to question what else you have been told that is a lie. Plenty of Zionists that refuse to acknowledge the reality in front of them and dismiss it as ‘Pallywood’, but you don’t seem to fall in to the category.
It does sound like you have a moral to your being and want to be on the right side of history and do not want a brutal ethnostate acting and speaking on your behalf. I’m glad for you. It’s good for your legacy. Maybe it’s time for you to finally acknowledge you were lied to in your formative years about what Israel was, how it came about and what it has done since it was created.
Last edited by BluntHorse; 04-06-2025 at 05:38 PM.
Oh come on
Things will change. Things are changing.
People are waking up to this.
https://youtube.com/shorts/OI1iM1Apf...wKA5FHmRtKq1Ti
Have you decided which atrocity Israel commits with US weapons is your red line? What number of children?
Does it need to be on camera for you to accept it, or is plausible deniability and a fantasy rendition of events by Israel good enough for you to sleep at night?
Or are you one of those people that would kill their own children, cook them and eat them if Israel told you to do so?
Oh come on
Again, I’m not posting anything to try and convince anyone that Israel is basically pure evil that’s having a bit of sun light shone on it. If you’ve not been convinced of that, then you are evil too, so eat a dick.
Not sure how to embed a tweet.
https://x.com/tracking_power/status/...lVECrUdD-mlb_w
David Miller
I am enjoying you genocidal freaks lose your children. They are right to be embarrassed of your Jewish supremacist nature. Again, eat a dick.Nice to see our comrades at the Jewish Chronicle reporting from the frontline of the collapse of Zionism, on how anti-Zionist messages are penetrating the formerly 'brainwashed' (their word not mine) minds of young Jewish people. Apparently these young Jewish people are 'even taken in' by David Miller.
Here is the story from yesterday :
“The lack of intellectual rigour is what disappoints me as much as anything else,” says Alison (not her real name), whose sons are aged 24 and 22. “They are very bright boys who have fallen hook, line and sinker for a crude pro-Palestinian narrative that has brainwashed their generation. They simply don’t question any of it. I know this might sound patronising but it feels like groupthink.
“My husband and I are left-wing Jews who are more than willing to consider a range of views on the Middle East but we feel our kids are stuck in an intellectual position that beggars belief. The kindest thing I can say is they are incredibly na?ve. They are even taken in by the disgraced academic David Miller.”
Like the other parents I spoke to, Alison and her husband gave their sons what can be described as a conventional Jewish upbringing.
“They both went to a Jewish primary school, we used to holiday regularly in Israel, where my husband has extensive family, and we sent them on Noam summer camps,” says Alison. “We never lectured them about Israel, it was just the backdrop to our family life. Now they wander around in Palestinian insignia, go on anti-Israel marches and tell me they were brainwashed in childhood.”
The shift in her sons’ attitudes began she says at the Russell Group universities they both attended. “That’s where they first encountered and swallowed Corbynist claptrap and where I feel they were desperate to identify with their peers, to fit in. Their position on Israel now feels immutable and the arguments along the way have been so horrible, that I don’t bring the subject up any more. It’s too painful. And it also feel pointless – we all end up shouting at each other.”
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#DismantleZionism from the inside.
Oh come on
Miss Rachel is Hamas.
https://stopantisemitism.org/as-week/ms-rachel/
What’s next? Blippi is Hezbollah?
This is good. You will make a bunch of people who were apathetic or uninformed now take a side.
Keep going you complete genocidal wankers.
Last edited by BluntHorse; 04-11-2025 at 03:38 PM.
Oh come on
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
You two enjoy the circle jerk?
Congratulations America
https://youtube.com/shorts/8rjTzneml...1UaXF5Hoo84zJ3
A land for a people for a people without a land.
Oh come on
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Should we start referring to Israel's crimes as ?Jewish crimes??
I am beginning to ask why people should make the distinction between Zionism and Judaism. After all, Zionists argue that anti-Zionism is the same as anti-Semitism. They conflate the two constantly. Why should I not do the same?
And after all, Israel declares it self to be the 'Jewish state', so it?s crimes can be attributed to Judaism.
The only thing that stops me doing this currently are the voices and actions of Jews who are actively against this holocaust, and seem to form a significant block on every march.
Oh come on
Nobody gives a fuck about your or your terrorist cause.
Congratulations America
Well said.
Scratch the surface of the terrorist sympathisers like Blunt and the anti-semitism is never far from it. Makes a refreshing change that he wasn't even trying to hide it there.
Being accused of anti-semitism from a racist wanker who has zero to say of the genocide happening against the Palestinians, and thinks they have no rights other than to be killed by Hashem's Chosen Master Race is a compliment.
Maybe you didn’t get the memo, sir, but using labels emptied of their meaning by racist fanatics like yourself in defense of your favorite ethnostate, and unable to engage in a single serious point of discussion, hardly flies any more.
Oh come on
What repugnant Zionist brain rot. Let’s break down what you are saying:
1. Nothing justifies October 7th but everything is justified by October 7th.
2. Israel has a right to destroy a group that inflicted an attack on it but Palestinians have no right to attack a colonial entity that has oppressed it for decades.
3. It’s bad for Hamas to use river to the sea but when the founding charger of Netenyahu’s party likud does it, it’s all dandy and never worth even mentioning.
4. You pity the ‘poor Palestinians’ yet you are unable to bring yourself to acknowledge even a single brutal well documented war crime committed by Israel against them.
5. You think Ukraine’s victimhood against Russia is similar to the Israeli victimhood against Palestinians. In this whole decades long story saga you actually think Israel, the self confessed settler colonial state, are the victims here and the Palestinians are the bad guys.
6. The ‘poor Palestinians’ have a right to be ethnically cleansed to another Arab nation.
7. Not a word to say about the recent annexation plan announced by Israel.
Let’s be honest now. There is nothing - literally nothing - your favorite ethnostate can do that would give you pause for thought. I bet you think your twisted thoughts that you brazenly air somehow fights against anti-semitism rather than fuels it.
Seriously, fuck off you genocidal racist wanker. Anyone who takes you seriously is equally deranged as you. You shouldn’t be allowed near other people. I’m so glad that the average Joe in your country increasingly sees what is happening.
Oh come on
Why don't you just keep ranting more terrorist apologist bollocks.
Yes, Hamas etc are the bad guys and Israel are the victim. The second that Hamas etc put down their weapons, there can be peace. The second Israel put down their weapons, they'd be wiped out.
If Hamas won't lay down their arms, then moving the Palestinians on to another Arab state and Israel annexing the land may be the last resort only way to break the cycle of violence. I'd rather see Hamas lay down their arms before that, but I won't hold my breath.
the mask is well and truly off. so why u being a little bitch and using euphemisms?
just say it - 'ethnically cleanse the Palestinians' so the Master Race can have all the land
Oh come on
That's not my preference, my preference is that Hamas surrenders unconditionally, lays down their arms, and releases all hostages.
Hamas surrenders unconditionally, lays down their arms, and releases all hostages.
And then what?
Israel will stop stealing land in the West Bank, taking women and children as hostages into its rape and terror dungeons, keeping the bodies of Palestinians as punishment, destroying Palestinian homes, starving and murdering Palestinians? Israel was doing this shit way before Hamas existed, so fuck off, you clown.
You?re the type of individual with dog shit for brains that thinks apartheid South Africa was a good thing.
Anyone with a pair of eyes and a few brain cells can see that a settler colonial state was never going to be safe from the natives, who would not forget what happened to them as they are forced to live as second class citizens. Again, you are the type of dick head who thinks Israel should have murdered and ethnically cleansed ALL the Palestinians and taken all the land when it was established. Can’t have a conflict if there no one to fight with, right?
The only thing you?ve done is spouted brain rot Zionist talking points and shared your genocidal ambitions.
Discussion with you is over.
?Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ? politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves? The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. ? Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.?
? David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky?s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan?s ?Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
Oh come on
Israeli settlers, frequently aided and abetted by the IDF, are quite willing to use violence against unarmed Palestinians.
Hope is the denial of reality
They're also willing to use violence on each other, and the IDF, and then blame it on the Palestinians
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Notorious woke leftist mafia the Financial Times editorial board:
https://www.ft.com/content/f5fd6f8d-...2-752e3aca9272The US and European countries that tout Israel as an ally that shares their values have issued barely a word of condemnation. They should be ashamed of their silence, and stop enabling Netanyahu to act with impunity.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Kidnapping people, rape and terror etc is what Hamas is doing, not Israel.
If Hamas lays down their weapons, the conflict is over.
Did you forget that Israel had pulled out of Gaza entirely before Hamas took over, shit for brains?
Don?t do drugs, kids.
Oh come on
Israel doing a speed run to China's Xinjiang policy:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqxej00w3wno
duh they won't need algebra in the death camps
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
but what about the h0sTaGe5
Oh come on
Hamas could release the hostages if they chose to.
That they do not, is their responsibility. Israel has every right to go to war to destroy Hamas and free the hostages.
I suggest Hamas lay down their arms, unconditionally surrender and release the hostages. If they choose not to, they bear responsibility.
And this, friends, is how you can say you are a racist asshole who does not recognise the humanity or the rights of the Palestinians or the suffering and injustices visited on them for decades by an ethnocracy, a self confessed settler colonial state with a wanted war criminal as their leader.
You do you.
Oh come on
Statement by the Foreign Ministers of Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Norway, Slovenia and Spain on the Israeli plan to expand its military operations in Gaza:
https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuel...aza/id3099263/
We, the Foreign Ministers of Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Norway, Slovenia and Spain express our grave concern about the reported Israeli plans to expand its military operations in Gaza and to establish a prolonged Israeli presence in the Strip. This would mean crossing yet another line, marking a dangerous new escalation and jeopardizing any prospects of a viable Two-State solution.
A further military escalation in Gaza will only exacerbate an already catastrophic situation for the civilian Palestinian population and threaten the lives of the hostages that remain in captivity.
We firmly reject any demographic or territorial change in Gaza, including any scheme that would force or facilitate the permanent displacement of its population, which would be in violation of international law. We also strongly oppose a system that does not ensure that the entire population gets access to humanitarian aid. Gaza is an integral part of the State of Palestine, which belongs to the Palestinian people.
For more than two months, Israeli authorities have blocked all humanitarian aid and commercial supplies from reaching the civilian Palestinian population in Gaza. Despite repeated calls on Israel to lift these measures and to facilitate relief, Israel has instead further tightened, rather than eased, the measures. We call on Israel to immediately lift the blockade. It is essential to facilitate relief for all civilians in need, without discrimination, and to follow the other humanitarian principles of impartiality, independence and neutrality.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
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