UK General Election 12 December

[RandBlade]

So it's ok to vote BXP if it's a protest vote to send a clear message that Johnson's deal "isn't Brexit" and to topple him?

Like you did?

No! The General Election is not a protest ballot.

The European Parliament I voted to make our MEPs redundant - not to elect a government. Thus it didn't matter who the MEP was, because they would have no power and be made unemployed shortly. The General Election is not the same thing, I would never have done that in a General Election.

[Aimless]

No! The General Election is not a protest ballot.

The European Parliament I voted to make our MEPs redundant - not to elect a government. Thus it didn't matter who the MEP was, because they would have no power and be made unemployed shortly. The General Election is not the same thing, I would never have done that in a General Election.

You did something stupid that does have some consequences. The most obvious consequence of the stupid thing you did was that you helped waste money—some of which is yours—on 29 useless or downright harmful MEPs. As a protest vote, your vote has had no positive effect on your position in the Brexit negotiations or Brexit process; had you voted for productive and competent MEPs, you would've increased the likelihood of at least someone getting value for money for the duration of their tenure, however short or long that may prove to be.

[gogobongopop]

You did something stupid that does have some consequences. The most obvious consequence of the stupid thing you did was that you helped waste money—some of which is yours—on 29 useless or downright harmful MEPs. As a protest vote, your vote has had no positive effect on your position in the Brexit negotiations or Brexit process; had you voted for productive and competent MEPs, you would've increased the likelihood of at least someone getting value for money for the duration of their tenure, however short or long that may prove to be.

It also gave creedence and validity to the BXP in their first attempt at elections. A party that could be very damaging for the Tories in this GE. Brexit voters who wanted a different version of Johnson's Brexit will have nowhere else to go.

[Hazir]

It also gave creedence and validity to the BXP in their first attempt at elections. A party that could be very damaging for the Tories in this GE. Brexit voters who wanted a different version of Johnson's Brexit will have nowhere else to go.

Exactly. I was about to write exactly that.

[Aimless]

It also gave creedence and validity to the BXP in their first attempt at elections. A party that could be very damaging for the Tories in this GE. Brexit voters who wanted a different version of Johnson's Brexit will have nowhere else to go.

Often not a great idea to encourage political vandalism and nihilism. Short-term gains come at a long-term cost in terms of lost credibility, reduced ability to govern effectively, and major political constraints.

[Hazir]

@randy
Delivering Brexit is something that the cat of number 10 could have done, so your standard for 'consequential PM' is rather low. It eludes me why you think that getting a worse deal than May is proof of anything positive about the man.

Sad that you are still members tomorrow.