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    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    But Randblade, I thought there was no issue here? That there's always iffy content on the Internets and it's no ones problem but the parents if some of that iffy content comes up next to kids videos on Youtube?

    So why are you now praising Youtube and their advertisers for taking action against the thing I said was a problem and you've said isn't?
    Your objection was creepy and macabre content generated for videos with titles geared toward search results. In what possible light do you think that's the same problem as sexual predators leaving suggestive comments on videos kids have uploaded themselves? The fact that both occur on the internet? That's GGT-reasoning, Steely, you're better than that.
    Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    Your objection was creepy and macabre content generated for videos with titles geared toward search results. In what possible light do you think that's the same problem as sexual predators leaving suggestive comments on videos kids have uploaded themselves? The fact that both occur on the internet? That's GGT-reasoning, Steely, you're better than that.
    Bah, the fact is that we're discussing consumer safety on the internet, and who's responsible/accountable for safeguards. That's not "GGT-reasoning"

    And just because I said parents can't possibly monitor their school-aged childrens' on-line behavior 24/7 doesn't mean web sites are absolved from their civic responsibilities. *Soft Porn*

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    Bah, the fact is that we're discussing consumer safety on the internet, and who's responsible/accountable for safeguards. That's not "GGT-reasoning"
    Actually, "I don't like it, someone needs to fix it" and treating them like they're the same regardless of how different the problems are, would be EXACTLY why I said it was GGT-reasoning.
    Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    Actually, "I don't like it, someone needs to fix it" and treating them like they're the same regardless of how different the problems are, would be EXACTLY why I said it was GGT-reasoning.
    I don't think it's a stretch to see that kids who have "uploaded videos themselves" can be exposed to search engine results with "macabre and creepy content". You're right, they're not the same thing (and I didn't say they were). But I was commenting on the consumer safety aspect for minor children, on a platform that even adults have trouble navigating, and protecting themselves from predatory behavior.

    I don't assume that 'parental controls' on devices are enough, since a large percent of those parents (according to reported numbers) have had their email or bank accounts hacked, or their identity stolen, or some other nefarious internet experience like malware. That's what leads me to believe that more needs to be done by the providers and hosts themselves, on the front-end.


    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    You've not yet explained why school-kids interested in pre-school/young children cartoons like Peppa Pig and Nursery Rhymes even have 24/7 unsupervised access to the internet. I didn't even have 24/7 access to a TV at that age.
    When I was that age we didn't even have color TV!

    Look, all I'm saying is that "the internet" is a swamp, but it's now an integral part of every day life, including the lives of very young children. But their parents aren't necessarily equipped to sort out the dangers (they can barely protect themselves); not because they're lazy or negligent, but because "the internet" has become an unruly and unregulated giant, enabled by every smart phone or TV upgrade

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