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    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    Where are the Republicans ready to defend or deny that the GOP has become the Christian Conservative Party, first and foremost?
    And the last serious DNC nominee who wasn't a mainstream Christian was...?

    Hell, by having a serious contender who's a Mormon, the GOP's shown more diversity on the issue than the DNC has, so really, you ought to voice your support by voting GOP this election cycle. Unless, as Loki postulated, this is just your attempt to convince yourself and/or others that you're "open minded," when you're about as close-minded as can be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post
    And the last serious DNC nominee who wasn't a mainstream Christian was...?

    Hell, by having a serious contender who's a Mormon, the GOP's shown more diversity on the issue than the DNC has
    Meh, not really. The GOP has yet to actually nominate a Mormon, while the Dems have actually nominated three Catholics. One of 'em even won the election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    Meh, not really. The GOP has yet to actually nominate a Mormon, while the Dems have actually nominated three Catholics. One of 'em even won the election.
    Catholics ARE mainstream Christians, though. Protestant hysteria about secret control from Vatican City aside, of course.

    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    There's a distinct group of Republicans who claim Democrats are Socialists, or want to turn the US into a Socialist state, or become "like Socialist Europe".
    Seems like a really odd complaint coming from you, given that you ARE a Democrat and DO want to turn the US into a much more socialist state, like "Socialist Europe." Mad that the Republicans figured it out, or what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
    They didn't have a gun on the global economy's temple, but that's an unfair comparison all around.
    Or your political beliefs prevent you from seeing the situation accurately/fairly, given that the "loony left" which largely dominated the Democratic Party under "Bush the Lesser" lines up very well with your own political views, so you can't (or won't) see them as what they are... and they are analogous to the freshman Tea Party congressmen from the right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post
    Or your political beliefs prevent you from seeing the situation accurately/fairly, given that the "loony left" which largely dominated the Democratic Party under "Bush the Lesser" lines up very well with your own political views, so you can't (or won't) see them as what they are... and they are analogous to the freshman Tea Party congressmen from the right.
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    Maybe you could high-light some social progressive stuff gung-ho Dem representatives absolutely hammered through under the reign of Bush the Lesser, I'm sure there's some but me and my memory, oi vei!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post
    Catholics ARE mainstream Christians, though. Protestant hysteria about secret control from Vatican City aside, of course.
    They aren't according to this metric we're apparently using, based on credibly running for President.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
    They didn't have a gun on the global economy's temple, but that's an unfair comparison all around. Maybe you could high-light some social progressive stuff gung-ho Dem representatives absolutely hammered through under the reign of Bush the Lesser, I'm sure there's some but me and my memory, oi vei!
    Uh. . . I didn't say all Dems were that way, I said some. And the Dems didn't manage to grab control of Congress at all until the last two years of his presidency. I can think of a major SP initiative they pushed under Obama *though the final form, based as it was on some compromise with the GOP and a massive amount of internal compromise in the Democratic party, didn't satisfy anyone.*
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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post
    Catholics ARE mainstream Christians, though. Protestant hysteria about secret control from Vatican City aside, of course.
    You're forgetting how long it took for Republicans to embrace Catholics as "true Christians". Of course, decades later the Fundies realized a convenient connection with the Pope declaring Pro-Life/anti-abortion for their constituents. Plus, the appeal to Fundamental WASPs who didn't like sex-ed taught in public schools, or handing out free condoms, preferring Abstinence Only.

    Seems like a really odd complaint coming from you, given that you ARE a Democrat and DO want to turn the US into a much more socialist state, like "Socialist Europe." Mad that the Republicans figured it out, or what?
    Is that like a Lewk tactic, calling me a Democrat as if it's a slur akin to being a lib'rul? tsk tsk

    Most everyone knows the US has hybrid forms of government, between each state and as a Republic. And that Freee Unfettered Capitalism can't work without some oversight, Rules and Regulations, and a social safety net---not in individual states, and not as a nation.

    Republicans are great at sounding the SSSocialism alarm horn, until it comes to Medicare and SS.

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