This isn't about whataboutism at all. From day 1 I've fully condemned the actions of those evil little shits who decided to use violence at the capital. What I care about is the blatant hypocrisy of those who wish to excuse the actions of the domestic terrorists over the summer. The media and politicians who wanted their evil excused. What's good for the goose is ALWAYS good for the gander. And only the worst sort of hypocrite would say otherwise.Originally Posted by Loki
Are you really going to equate looting KFC with trying to overthrow the US government?
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Domestic Terrorism is Domestic Terrorism, through typically this is an intention based crime and looting a KFC is probably just robbery (which should also put you in prison for many years).
You're all about the whataboutism.Hey, where's your outrage at *right-wing* media and *Republic* politicians spewing conspiracy theories and disinformation --- posing as democracy loving Law & Order constitutionalists, selling their Big Lies --- that eventually led to the violent insurrection at the Capitol? You get more worked up when a homeless guy steals toothpaste.
Anyone who planned a violent instruction is bad. Anyone using rhetoric to talk about how bad one side is or isn't hasn't done anything illegal. Anyone who goes to or helps get people to rally that has a peaceful purpose is also blameless.You're all about the whataboutism.
The idea that we should tone down rhetoric is a laughable charge from anyone on the left who have done FAR worse when it comes to inciting violence.
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I was going to ask if you see the differences between "normal political rhetoric" and inciting insurrection -- even if it's a non-violent coup meant to overthrow the government -- but since whataboutism is just part of your trolling...well, never mind.Anyone using rhetoric to talk about how bad one side is or isn't hasn't done anything illegal. Anyone who goes to or helps get people to rally that has a peaceful purpose is also blameless.
The idea that we should tone down rhetoric is a laughable charge from anyone on the left who have done FAR worse when it comes to inciting violence.
When teens trespass on a person's lawn and he shoots and kills one of them, you froth at the mouth and demand all the teens get convicted of felony murder. When BLM activists throw rocks in the general direction of police without injuring anyone, you shriek for everyone there to be shoved into prison for assault. But when conservative activists engage in criminal trespass and their compatriots in criminal trespass assault actually KILL cops, you think they're blameless.
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You are delusional. All I ask is the same standard be applies regardless of the reason for the domestic terrorism. Don't like how cops behave? Don't like abortion providers? Don't like gays in the military? Don't like election results? NONE of these allow for domestic terrorism, assaults and looting. The law has to be applied equally *regardless of cause.* The fact that you want one rule for morons who use violence for a political cause you detest and another for for political causes you agree with ought to be shameful. But somehow I doubt you see it that way. Ends justify the means, eh?
I feel like this might not be the brightest argument to raise, for a person who routinely tries to find ways to justify police brutality and extrajudicial killings. The reality is that an attack—with murderous intent—on a govt and on the actual democratic process itself is far worse and far more ominous than an attack on a clothing store. It's worse wrt direct effects—both actual and potential—as well as wrt broader, indirect effects. The plans to hunt down, capture and likely harm legislators—and eliminate the first two in the line of succession—is far worse than anything that was seen during the BLM protests, and speaks towards motives and a type of organization that requires a completely different political, judicial and LE response. It's even worse than eg. what those racist fuckwits who killed Ahmaud Arbery did. Frankly, if you can't understand the difference between a random attack on a closed GAP and a highly organized attack on the very heart of your govt. you must have your head stuck up your ass.
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Aha. So you understand domestic terrorism, assaults and looting are different crimes.
If you use that knowledge and apply it, you might figure out why you're talking bollocks. The charges aren't different because it's a different political cause, it's different because of different crimes.
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Correct. If you rob a place for money that is not domestic terrorism. If you rob a place for a political cause that is domestic terrorism. If you set fire to a courthouse because you want more work as a firefighter you're an arsonist, if you set fire to it because you dislike cops and the courts you are a domestic terrorist. If you scale the capital building as a publicity stunt you are a lame Youtuber and a trespasser, if you invade the capital because you didn't like the results of an election you are a domestic terrorist. I'm fully aware of the difference. The key point I am making is that violence for a political cause directed at the capital, the police, businesses, courthouses etc are all domestic terrorism. What some people on this forum like to do is excuse rioting when its for a cause they have sympathy with.
No you're not. All three of those examples were ones drawn from your posts.
See, this is just your cop-out. You or someone you saw used the label "domestic terorrism" and so you've decided you can play with that point. Me, I used "felony-murder." Others here used "insurrection". We don't accept your terminology or conceptual space for this.regardless of the reason for the domestic terrorism.
We are. You're not. Different crimes have different consequences. They didn't just riot. There was an attempt to overturn the democracy, for some, and for me, I'm content to hang my hat on the dead cop, and the abetting act of mass-criminality, primarily because it's YOUR standard and I'm posting to point out YOUR rampant hypocrisy and inconsistency.The law has to be applied equally *regardless of cause.*
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