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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    You're basically telling Americans to not bother trying to get well-paying jobs because there's always some foreigner willing to take those same jobs at half the salary. A great message that sends.
    Completely untrue. There are a lot of factors. Language barrier, cost of moving (uprooting yourself from family/friends), depending on the nature of the job may require customer interfacing, ect. Are you opposed to immigration of highly skilled individuals to America? Just close down legal migration all together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    Completely untrue. There are a lot of factors. Language barrier, cost of moving (uprooting yourself from family/friends), depending on the nature of the job may require customer interfacing, ect. Are you opposed to immigration of highly skilled individuals to America? Just close down legal migration all together?
    India has over a billion people. The educated classes all speak English. Average salary in India is a few thousand a year.

    We're not talking about immigration here. We're talking about temporary visas that take advantage of poor salaries in large parts of the world. If these people were actually given market salaries and given the choice of changing employers if their current one mistreats them, employers wouldn't be so desperate to continuously get new workers.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    India has over a billion people. The educated classes all speak English. Average salary in India is a few thousand a year.

    We're not talking about immigration here. We're talking about temporary visas that take advantage of poor salaries in large parts of the world. If these people were actually given market salaries and given the choice of changing employers if their current one mistreats them, employers wouldn't be so desperate to continuously get new workers.
    And having them here on visas means they are spending some of that money in our economy. The alternative option is just to outsource the labor completely and hire a company in India to do the work... in India. Where little of that salary will be spent on the American economy. Or of course some zany big government isolation policies - which I don't think you are in favor of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    And having them here on visas means they are spending some of that money in our economy. The alternative option is just to outsource the labor completely and hire a company in India to do the work... in India. Where little of that salary will be spent on the American economy. Or of course some zany big government isolation policies - which I don't think you are in favor of.
    They've actually saving up a huge portion of that money and sending it back home (see remittances). Not that I think this should matter. We should have one class of people in the US. We don't need a second class for whom the employer's goodwill takes precedence over constitutional and human rights. If we have long-term shortages in certain sectors of the economy, we should encourage people with those skills to immigrate to the US, not allow ridiculous shortcuts that allow a halving of salaries and a continuous supply of workers who have no real connection to the US.

    And guest worker visas aren't a type of zany big government policy?
    Hope is the denial of reality

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