YouGov polling gives remain as the most common first preference in 600 constituencies.
There's a man goin' 'round, takin' names
And he decides who to free and who to blame
Who needs experts?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...try-boss-says/
That is hardly an explanation of why the ports wouldn't be in trouble. Just 'can do' attitude isn't going to speed up border controls for an indefinete time. ESPECIALLY not because this is a two sided operation which used to run smooth but in case of a no deal Brexit would be cut in two.
I'd say the gentleman is guilty of that old British fallacy; namely that by wishing something ardently enough foreigners are going to accomodate their dreams.
If the French would stop trying to keep immigrants off crossing ferries, Dover would come to a screeching halt.
Congratulations America
You will be the ones bringing things to a halt in case of illegal immigrants.
The man also doesn't seem to be aware that British Lorries will actually need permits to haul cargo in the EU, and that there are preciously few permits availabe. Without a permit hundreds of lorries will be stuck in Dover, waiting for the right paperwork, which may or may not come. But of course, pluckiness is going to solve it all.
Congratulations America
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
Oh, but you WILL get it all over the country. It's virtualy a given; either you are getting the disruption of a chaotic Brexit, anger about BRINO or anger about No Brexit at all. All three are reasons for 'people to stop trusting' politics.
Congratulations America
While in Aimless's twisted imagination burning cars etc apparently has no impact ... and it is a "gross albeit hilarious exaggeration" to suggest they do have an impact ... back in the real world I inhabit the French Finance Minister has called what is going on a "catastrophe".
Back in Aimless's parallel universe it is just a mere jape.
You realize that "catastrophes" can have different sizes?
Yours will be ... bigger.
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
Can't you Brits get a functioning government already ?
Congratulations America
It seems not. This is beyond a fucking joke. It is embarrassing.
This deal is a disgrace. It is hated by almost everyone except what is left of the payroll vote. The vote tomorrow looked set to be the biggest defeat in a whipped vote (ie barring abstentions) since WWII. So she has put it off.
What is the point? She's not trying to renegotiate it. The EU are maintaining it can't be. What's going to change? Stand up and be counted instead she's just running down the clock.
Something pointing towards no re-negotiation indeed is that no preparations are made to debate Brexit in the preparations for the Council meeting later this week. It's not on the agenda of the meeting of foreign ministers tomorrow in Brussels.
Congratulations America
Why should you renegotiate when we've not rejected it yet and our PM isn't seeking either a renegotiation or an agreement to ratify it? It's absurd.
If we rejected it and a new PM went over with new demands then you can bet it would be on the agenda - either to discuss renegotiations or no deal preparations.
So, what business does May have in The Hague tomorrow?
Congratulations America
The people running the port of Rotterdam re not so laid back. They are hiring hundreds of extra people yet foresee chaos in case of a no deal Brexit. And that is even with their most optimistic estimates of how long it would take to clear lorries/containers coming from the UK.
They also point out that delays actually reduce the value of a lot of the cargo being processed.
I think the people running the port of Rotterdam know a bit more about international shipping than most people.
Congratulations America
May's deal in its current state won't happen.
A renegotiation of May's deal won't happen.
No deal won't happen.
A people's vote won't happen.
Article 50 won't be withdrawn.
So outcomes I see are:
1. Article 50 will be extended and then May will resign. Tory leadership contest in which Gove will win. He'll then define a new, very different looking deal.
2. A vote of no confidence in the government. General election called. Tories win. Gove becomes PM. He'll then define a new, very different looking deal.
After that: Scotland leaves the UK, and in the longer term the IRA rise from the ashes, more "troubles", and eventually NI leave the UK for a united Ireland. The "UK" form some trade deals that are and will be inferior to deals we already have/would have got being in the EU.
I hope I'm wrong about all the above (apart from article 50 being withdrawn; yes please).
Last edited by gogobongopop; 12-11-2018 at 11:34 AM.
That's weird.
My words. Not sure what happened. I've now fashioned them into a lovely orange for your reading pleasure.