Typical Jewish name too, right?Originally Posted by BluntHorse
Typical Jewish name too, right?
Congratulations America
Gotta play to the audience with some traditional ZionNutty posting, no?
Regardless of her religion, ethnicity, politics or whatever, she is a dipshit. As bad as any other genocide supporter.
Oh come onwith the "genocide" rhetoric.
Anyway, I see that the pro-palestine terrorist glorification crowd has managed to eliminate this forum. I have better things to do.Gotta play to the audience with some traditional ZionNutty posting, no?
Regardless of her religion, ethnicity, politics or whatever, she is a dipshit. As bad as any other genocide supporter.
Congratulations America
A former Israeli defense minister has accused Israel of committing war crimes and ethnic cleansing in the Gaza Strip:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/01/w...za-yaalon.html
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
That's the most ineffective genocide in human history then. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if the population of Gaza has grown since the beginning of the 'genocide'.
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8k dead in Srebrenica, which was ruled a genocide.
The reasoning employed in that ruling is very instructive, but what's important here is that a prominent right-wing member of the Israeli security establishment has acknowledged that the far lower standard for ethnic cleansing has already been met.
In related news, the IDF's targeted assassination campaign against chefs continues apace.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Dr. Hussam Abu Safyia - pediatrician, and the director of Kamal Adwan Hospital in northern Gaza - in the NYT, giving an account of the antics of the World's Most Moral Army:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/02/o...mal-adwan.html
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
More random information?
I don't even know if more people died at all due to the Israeli actions. It's different than killing all the Muslim men in Srebrenica on purpose.
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The genocide supporters are still here. Still reading. Contemplating. Just a bit quiet because it’s really really hard to defend their favorite ethnostate.
Some of them have a simultaneous genuine bloodlust and victim syndrome still.
For others, it’s hard to come to terms with what a fucking wanker they are for having supported this stuff all their shitty life. Maybe having lost some family and friends who were complicit opression, ethnic cleansing and genocide. Died for nothing. Worse. To oppress another people. And then to contemplate doing the right thing and supporting Palestinians in attaining freedom from the ethnosupremacist state. And then realizing what a coward they are because ‘what will my family and friends think of me?!’.
You are fairly unique in that you are not an Israeli but you still bay for the blood of the people who have suffered at the hands of Hertzle-stan, publicly in the English language.
I’d say something like ’the holocaust was clearly an ineffective genocide since Jewish population has grown since then and they even have themselves an ethnostate. so it wasn’t really a big deal’ but someone as dumb as you would interpret that as some sort of excuse for Hitlers genocide rather than see the point being made.
Israel is just clearly really clumsy. Who doesn’t have at least 186,000 accidents with 70% confirmed dead being women and children? All wars have collateral, right? Clearly Israel means well.
Haven’t you ever personally ethnically cleansed 1.1 million people before?
Here is a soldier from the 51st Battalion of the Golani Brigade, just for you. Maybe you can masturbate in appreciation of him.
Plenty more online if you look for it, darling. x
Last edited by BluntHorse; 12-03-2024 at 11:15 PM.
Oh come on
Norwegian sovereign wealth fund divests itself of holdings in Israeli company providing services to settlements in the West Bank:
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...nk-2024-12-04/
More such decisions to follow.
157 nations back UNGA resolution calling for an end to the occupation:
https://www.theguardian.com/australi...tion-palestine
Only 8 votes against, and 7 abstentions, with notable defections from former fence-sitters in the west.
EU countries clearly back the ICC - and denounce threats against the court and its officials - at the recent Assembly of States Parties in the Hague:
Twitter Link
Click through for statements from various member states.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Israeli historian compiles massive database of Israeli war crimes in Gaza:
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...6f1952e84489df
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
To no one's surprise:
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...3-fefff2e50000'No Civilians. Everyone's a Terrorist': IDF Soldiers Expose Arbitrary Killings and Rampant Lawlessness in Gaza's Netzarim Corridor
Hope is the denial of reality
Can there be a more moral act than openly confessing to the crimes one has committed? Truly the world's most moral army.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Far Right Zionist Atheist Anti-Islam Activist Terrorist Murders Peoples at German Christmas Markets.
How ZioNutty.
I wonder how many of the Far Right Zionist Atheist Anti-Islam Activist weirdos around here are also latent terrorists.
Grief and anger in Magdeburg after Christmas market attack
22 December 2024
Magdeburg's Christmas market is a sad sight. This should have been the busiest weekend of the season, but the whole area has been cordoned off and all the stands are shut.
Police are the only people walking around the boarded-up mulled wine and gingerbread stalls.
On the pavement, red candles flicker, tributes laid for the victims.
Lukas, a truck driver, told me he felt compelled to come to pay his respects. "I wasn't there when it happened," he told me.
"But I work here in Magdeburg. I'm here every day. I've driven by here a thousand times."
"It's a tragedy for everyone here in Magdeburg. The perpetrator should be punished."
"We can only hope that the victims and their families find the strength to deal with it."
There is sorrow here – but there is anger too.
Many people here see this attack as a terrible lapse in security. That is a claim the authorities reject, although they have admitted the attacker entered the market using a route planned for emergency responders.
Michael, who also came to pay tributes to the victims, said "there should've been better security".
"We should have been prepared better but that was not done properly."
Investigation: Police probe market security and warnings about suspect
Explained: What we know so far about Magdeburg Christmas market attack
From the scene: Eyewitness heard rumbling and shattering glass
Standing at the security cordon, I heard a group of locals complaining loudly about Germany's Chancellor Olaf Scholz and regional politicians.
"They are wasting our tax money, they are just looking out for themselves. They are not interested in us. We just hear empty promises," one man said.
"They are turning what happened here around and want to put the blame on the opposition and use it for their election campaign," he said.
On Saturday evening, around the same time as the square in front of Magdeburg's Gothic cathedral was filled with mourners watching a memorial service, a demonstration took place nearby.
Protesters held a banner that read "Remigration now!" – a concept popular among the far-right – and shouted "those who do not love Germany should leave Germany".
It is not clear yet what impact this attack may have on Germany's upcoming election.
Germany has been hit by a number of deadly Islamist attacks in the past, but investigators said the evidence they have gathered so far suggests a different picture in this case.
Germany's Interior Minister Nancy Faeser said the suspect appears to have been "Islamophobic".
The suspect, Taleb Al-Abdulmohsen, is from Saudi Arabia, and his social media posts suggest he had been critical of Islam.
He also expressed sympathy on social media for Germany's far-right political party, Alternative for Germany (AfD), re-tweeting posts from the party's leader and a far-right activist.
Oh come on
Haaretz | Opinion
Opinion | 'When You Leave Israel and Enter Gaza, You Are God': Inside the Minds of IDF Soldiers Who Commit War Crimes
As a psychologist dealing with brutality in the military, I see how the government rhetoric of hatred is worsening the problem
Imagine being such a dumb motherfucker that you'd call this the world's most moral army. A delusion fit for dipshits.Still, it is difficult to face the violence of callous soldiers and the brutalization of ordinary soldiers. Therefore, I am not reassured when my grandson says: "Don't worry, Grandpa, I will refuse an illegal order."
I want to protect him and all others who are risking their body and mind when they serve in the IDF. I want them to know how difficult it is to stand up to a callous commander and to resist peer pressure encouraging brutality. I want them to know about the slippery slope of brutalization and get educated about the moral dilemmas they will face during wartime. This motivated me to write this essay both as a grandfather and as a psychologist who has researched soldiers' experience with brutalization.
Nuphar Ishay-Krien was the social welfare officer of two mechanized infantry companies stationed in the southern Gaza Strip during the first intifada (1987-93). She talked with the soldiers and they opened up to her. Four years later, I supervised her graduate research study of the companies' brutalization. She used confidential interviews to explore the moral drift, the brutalities and the consequent mental health issues. Our scientific article was later published as the first chapter in an edited book "The Blot of a Light Cloud: Israeli Soldiers, Army, and Society in the Intifada" in 2012.
The subsequent chapters reflected and expanded on our research. They were written by an interdisciplinary group of scholars in mental health, sociology, law, political science, communication, and philosophy. There were also writers, artists, and high-ranking retired army officers.
We identified five groups of soldiers based on personality traits. 1. A small Callous group was composed of ruthless soldiers, some of whom confessed to violence before the draft. These soldiers committed most of the severe atrocities. The power they received in the army was intoxicating: "It's like a drug ... you feel like you are the law, you make the rules. As if from the moment you leave the place called Israel and enter the Gaza Strip, you are God." They viewed brutality as an expression of strength and masculinity.
"I have no problem with women. One threw a slipper at me, so I gave her a kick here (pointing to the groin), broke all this here. She can't have children today."
"An Arab just walked down the street, about 25 years old, didn't throw a stone, nothing. Bang, a bullet in the stomach. Shot him in the stomach, and he was dying on the sidewalk, and we drove away indifferently."
These soldiers were remorseless and did not report moral injury. Some of them were convicted by military courts. They felt bitter and betrayed.
"A new commander came to us. We went out with him on the first patrol at six in the morning. He stops. There's not a soul in the streets, just a little 4-year-old boy playing in the sand in his yard. The commander suddenly starts running, grabs the boy, and breaks his arm at the elbow and his leg here. Stepped on his stomach three times and left. We all stood there with our mouths open. Looking at him in shock ... I asked the commander: "What's your story?" He told me: These kids need to be killed from the day they are born. When a commander does that, it becomes legit."
There is documentation of shooting of civilians waving white flags, abuse of individual captives and corpses, burning houses without legal approval, vengeful destruction of property, and looting. Additionally, Mordechai finds that "a miniscule number of investigations" have been opened "compared to the evidence for committed crimes."
The eulogies at Shuvael Ben-Natan's funeral, a reservist who was killed in Lebanon, illustrate this shift. One speaker referred to Ben-Natan's killing of a 40-year-old Palestinian who was harvesting olives with his children in the West Bank. Members of his military unit recounted how he boosted morale in Gaza by setting a home on fire without approval. They professed their commitment to continue with arson and revenge in Gaza, Lebanon and Samaria (the West Bank).
According to media reports, there are 36 investigations regarding deaths of detainees who were held in Sde Teiman since October 7. Testimonies of released Palestinians gathered by the Israeli human rights NGO B'Tselem indicate harsh, arbitrary violence on a frequent basis, humiliation and degradation, deliberate starvation and other abusive practices. Soldiers expressed anonymously how a discourse of hatred and revenge normalized the abuse of detainees.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Why have the Israel supporters gone quiet?
Come and defend your favorite ethnostate.
Tell this ZioNut why he’s just a biggoted Jew hating antisemitie. Do some of your whataboutery.
Israel needs you right now. Tell us how your parents and grandparents engage in passionate defense of Israel around the dinner table (maybe even how much they hate Arabs). Tell us how you educate your kids to hate Arabs and how nothing justified October 7th, but October 7th justifies everything.
Am Yisrael Chai, right?
On a serious note, if you don’t think Israel is pure fucking evil, it's because undoubtedly you are too.
Last edited by BluntHorse; 12-24-2024 at 09:24 PM.
Oh come on
Year-long NYT investigation into what some of the biggest dipshits on earth - and on this forum - have dubbed The World's Most Moral Army:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/26/w...&smid=bs-share
Last edited by Aimless; 12-26-2024 at 06:39 PM.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
In good news; another terrorist nest was rolled up today. This one was -unsurprisingly- encamped in a hospital.
Congratulations America
You?re actually demonic.
Oh come on
Because I know what words mean a I don't take liars on their word?
The Israelis really have a point when they wonder why people like you are so obsessed with anything that Israel does yet don't give at all about the actual genocides taking place in this world. It's a bit like those people who are obsessed with dead slaves in history but are quite OK not giving a flying fuck about the enslaved people living today.
Congratulations America
A key element of genocide is to try to destroy history:
https://www.thenationalnews.com/news...d-manuscripts/
Barbarism lies at the heart of fascism.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Someone said History is Written by the Victors. Is it possible the Nazis were not as bad as history depicts them? Is this the basis of Neo-Nazism?
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
No, that's not where Neo-Nazism comes from, though its adherents certainly use such rhetoric.
But you can see some of its origins in the dehumanization impulse of weirdo losers and lonely bloodthirsty freaks who have nothing going for them I guess. Some of them target jews, while people like Hazir target Arab kids. They seek refuge among established communities of haters because nobody else will have them.
Last edited by Aimless; 12-31-2024 at 06:22 AM.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
The problem with history being written by the victors is not that it leads to mischaracterization of the Nazis, but that it implies - or outright declares - that, since the Nazis were bad, whoever fought them therefore were undeniably good. In case of reported history, this is by design, of course, but you see the same thing arising naturally, too: people often identify (or decide who are) "the bad guys", and then automatically assume that their opponents must be the good guys, and therefore their actions - justified and acceptable. Sometimes, this assumption is accurate, other times you can only wonder about how people manage to find the "good guys" in situations that are more or less morally equivalent to the Bloods and the Crips fighting over territory.
This is probably completely irrelevant to the origins of Neo-Nazism, but could be applicable to some of the contents of this thread, IMO.
Carthāgō dēlenda est
Kudos, you are accomplishing your goals. This is what "you're either with us, or you're against us" actually looks like. Congratulations.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
A. I think you're right about this thread. I don't see Hamas or Israel as a good guy in this current blood bath. I don't know how anyone can. And really, it's not Israel vs. Hamas, its Israel vs. Iran, isn't it? And Iran is apparently happy to use up the Palestinian and Lebanese civilians in opposing and striking at Israel. That's very bad, IMO. As bad as Israel shrugging at genocide level activity in Gaza.
B. My general impression of the characters in world war 2:
-Nazis - very very bad
-Japanese - very bad for their occupied territories and captured prisoners but not Nazi bad
-Soviets - very bad, but the enemy of my enemy...
-Brits - bad for their colonized peoples for sure, but not so bad overall
-Americans - generally good as relates to the conduct of the war. Yeah, we goaded the Japs to attack, but they were doing lots of bad shit in Asia and a major power so expansionist/ militaristic is best put down. And yeah, we probably didn't need to nuke them, and fire bombing the majority of civilian population centers in Japan was bad, but after the war we rebuilt Japan into an economic powerhouse. And we saved Europe from Soviet domination and helped free-Europe rebuild, right? That's pretty good, even acknowledging the self-interest behind it.
How much of this is Victors writing?
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
I target Arab children? As far as I know I merely ridicule the apparent disability of Aimless to use his abilities to read and think when he linkdumps about this subject. The math of the so-called Ministry of Health is so not mathing that even I can see with a single glance that they can't be real.
It is true that I am not willing to let my opinion be moved by pictures of dead Palestinian children; the propaganda is too crude. I have no doubt that between the two sides the Hamas side is more than willing to throw Palestinian children in the meat grinder and that for Israel indeed losing, or being vulnerable even is not an option. I still consider this war legitimate and no court ruling about its legality will change that. The right of Israel to defend itself should not be limited by a legal system that lacks the means to keep Israel safe by other means.
Finally, otherwise I think the Israeli government would do well by not throwing all the might of its armed forces behind the agenda of the most extreme segments of Israeli society.
Congratulations America
I found it in character; fairly hysterical.
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I honestly don't think you can apply the Good-Bad binary on the region to even remotely understand the conflict. In the middle east more often than not the enemy of my enemy is just another enemy.
Just look at the diplomatic gymnastics that are necessary to deal with the question of who rules in Syria.
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