You seriously underestimate how bad the Japanese were. And may I point out that exactly they managed to write a lot of their history as we perceive it in the West despite being the losers?Originally Posted by EyeKhan
You seriously underestimate how bad the Japanese were. And may I point out that exactly they managed to write a lot of their history as we perceive it in the West despite being the losers?
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?Stop doing a genocide and murdering innocent people and children? = ?you?re with us or you?re against us? and is therefore unreasonable
okay, makes sense.
Oh come onwith the "genocide" rhetoric.
Attendees of the American Historical Association's annual convention overwhelmingly vote (428 to 88, 4 abstentions) for a resolution condemning scholasticide in Gaza:
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/...lasticide-gaza
Among their number was a host of scholars of genocide, fascism, and the history of the region. Not unexpected - historians know, and they know how they know.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
In the meantime, the world's most moral army continues to fire on aid trucks:
https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/01/1158746
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
The cause of war was legitimate (for both sides, IMO) but the prosecution of it is another matter entirely (again for both though the vast majority of the prosecution is happening on the Israeli side). "Blunthorse" wouldn't concede the first but I think Aimless technically would. He just doesn't have the slightest interest in casus belli on either legal or ethical grounds, in this particular conflict. At least partly because of the actors.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
There has only been the barest element of "stop doing a genocide" in anything you've written here, if it's present at all. It's mostly been this kind of negative and belligerent exultation. Nor would you have been the least bit happy or satisfied if Israel had never started. You want enemies, you are dependent on them. Which is why what I said is both true and oh so humanly understandable
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
I'm afraid I don't quite understand the part of 'though the vast majority of the prosecution is happening on the Israeli side.
I also wouldn't say that the attacks of Oct 7th were legitimate. Even within the scope of the wider conflict.
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https://youtu.be/2UdtVWZxr5Y?si=aBHe0Y9S7rHkz9zf
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You want me to believe that it's not obvious to you that pointing out warcrimes and atrocities is not an indication of disapproval on the part of the observer pointing them out. And the local conclusion is OBVIOUSLY not that the observer desires for them to stop, as they are somehow depending on having enemies for some fucking reason?
Okay. Fucking weirdo.
Occupiers do not have a right of self defence either morally or legally.
You think the Palestinians have a just cause of war? Are you some type of antisemite?
Hazir, please remind this fucking weirdo how Palestinians and Arabs and Turks are basically subhumans deserving of no human rights.
If he does not believe you, maybe tell him about what some Brut-ish guy said about admitting dogs in mangers or some shit with reference to Palestinians. Maybe he will agree with you if he knows a famous racist white guy said it.
Maybe take him for a tour to Sde Teima where you can rape to death some Palestinians hostages, maybe doctors, together. Share the footage here, later. Maybe you will become celebrities in Israel?
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Most attacking of targets is being done by the Israelis now and the vast majority of it has been throughout the current active conflict.
The means by which the attack on Oct 7th was prosecuted was certainly not legitimate (despite Blunthorse's farcical assertions that anything which wasn't an open attack on armed IDF personnel was a false flag bit of brutality carried out by Israelis against their own) but Hamas re-initiating active hostilities was. Israel might not have been on Gazan soil at that exact moment but they had undertaken enough actions against the Palestinians, including the ongoing oppressive control over the border and the sea blockade, settlement expansion, and unprosecuted/tacitly supported terrorist activities by settlers, to provide plenty of just cause for hostilities.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
You're way more interested in crowing about how Israelis "prove" you have been right to consider them monsters since you were first old enough to understand the word than in the behavior actually stopping. You're not writing advocacy, you're writing internal and external agit-prop.
Sure they do. We had this discussion once before back on Atari, IIRC. Everyone has a right to life and to seek to preserve it, you tiny pig turd.Occupiers do not have a right of self defence either morally or legally.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
There is nothing to prove. The evil nature of Zionism and its characterization as a Jewish supremacist settler colonial enterprise is self evident. It?s not my fault you?re blind.
Nutty-Yahoo admitted to Piers Morgan that Palestinians would resist against Belgium if it had a settler colony there. So fuck off with the 'wanting to have enemies? or ?they hate the j00z?horse shit or whatever else you come up with. Your accusations are self evidently full of shit, just like you.
You mean except Palestinians, Turks and Arabs?
I?ve never discussed this with you or any other unhinged fantasist around here before. Occupiers do not have a right to self defense, you fucking moron. At least not in international law. People under occupation in contrast do have that right. Just because you think otherwise does not make it so.
Keep making up stories in your head about how people just hate J00z and want an enemy, and how they don?t really have problems with war crimes and genocide, that have led to the arrest warrant by the ICC of the leader of your favorite ethnostate.
There is literally nothing that can be said, done or shown to you to that will make your change your mind. What?s interesting however, ?is that the USA is finally beginning to wake up to the ?Israel first? nature of politics, and how questioning it is apparently ?controversial? to point this out. All the dual citizens in congress. And how one can not serve two masters. Helene and Milton survivors only had $770 available to each of them whilst Israel got sent $23 billion dollars of tax payers money, or $2,400 for every member of the Zionist entity, to fund 2,000 lbs bombs, rape camps and their free health care system ect. There there is Candice Owners kicking up shit about the USS Liberty, which the USA and Israel would rather not have discussed. Then there?s a disconnect between the young people who have grown up with social media and their views on Israel and the old fuckers who have been spoon fed hasbra their whole lives. Most ordinary people are horrified at what they see. Things are changing. Nothing you can do to stop it. Fuck you.
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I don't have any particular interest in casus belli in any conflict that prominently features war crimes/atrocities/crimes against humanity bc 1. re-enacting the high school debate club freak experience isn't one of my special interests, and 2. casus belli pales in significance - both legally and morally - compared to the responsibility to protect civilians from said crimes. Focusing on that sort of nerd shit is the epitome of weirdo behavior.
Last edited by Aimless; 01-07-2025 at 12:26 PM.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Notice how these fucktards do not deny the veracity of what is shown to them. They don’t call you a liar, or try and cast doubts on the horrific war crimes that we watch daily.
It’s either silence at best or ad hominems and fantasies of why they think those war crimes would make you upset. Or accusations that you must be like them and okay with war crimes wherever they happen, and you are just an antisemite because its being done by a state that associates itself with Judaism.
You’re a doctor, right? Judging by their words here, they would not have a problem if the ethnostate raped and killed you either whilst you were engaging in the pursuit of your medical work.
There is no humanity here. Sad weirdos. The only redeeming factor in participating in this cesspit is to watch people who think they are morally superior flailing about when they are unmasked, and dwelve to infantile behaviour and make retarded philosophical arguments in what arguably is a clear genocide. These are type of fuckers who would have academised the holocaust as it was happening.
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Ireland joins South Africa’s ICJ Gaza genocide case against Israel
Interesting comparison with the Biden admin's long-overdue determination of genocide in Sudan:“There has been a collective punishment of the Palestinian people through the intent and impact of military actions of Israel in Gaza, leaving 44,000 dead and millions of civilians displaced,” The country’s deputy premier and foreign affairs minister Micheal Martin said at the time.
Speaking after a Cabinet meeting, Martin (above) added: “We are concerned that a very narrow interpretation of what constitutes genocide leads to a culture of impunity in which the protection of civilians is minimised.
“Ireland’s view of the convention is broader and prioritises the protection of civilian life – as a committed supporter of the convention, the Government will promote that interpretation in its intervention in this case.
“Intervening in both cases demonstrates the consistency of Ireland’s approach to the interpretation and application of the Genocide Convention.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/07/w...sanctions.html
An utterly contemptible legacy.The genocide determination followed months of deliberation inside the U.S. government, as lawyers and intelligence officials evaluated the merits of the case, said the two senior U.S. officials. Some officials hesitated to support the determination because they feared it might draw further criticism of the Biden administration over its refusal to declare Israel's campaign in the Gaza Strip a genocide against Palestinians, the officials said.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Palestinian in Gaza shot to death by Israeli commander while assisting IDF, report says
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...ium=iOS_Native
Israeli media reported that the Palestinian, who was forced by the IDF to serve as a human shield and search buildings in Gaza's Khan Yunis area, was shot to death by a commander who didn't know he was authorized to be there
A commander in the Israel Defense Forces' Nahal Brigade shot and killed a Palestinian who was assisting IDF troops in the southern Gaza city of Rafah, according to a report published by "The Hottest Place in Hell."
According to the report published on the Hebrew-language independent investigative journalism website, the Palestinian who was forced to serve as a human shield and search buildings in the Khan Yunis area, had received the IDF's permission to be present in the building. When a commander in the brigade arrived, he identified the man as Palestinian, took out a rifle and shot him to death, not knowing the Palestinian man was authorized to be present in the building.
The Zionist regimes uses human shields so much it has a term for it. “Mosquitoe protocol”. Yet for as much as Zionists bleat on about it, there’s never been a picture or video of Palestinians using anyone as human shields, an excuse used to murder civilians in Gaza. A bit like how they went on about beheaded babies, babies in clothes lines, rape ect
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Thanks for the clarification. The issue I have with that is that the hostilities are in no way intended to put pressure on Israel, to make Israel willing to participate in serious peace talks. Hamas is merely doing Iran's bidding, disregarding even the interest of their own people. My opinion on Israeli actions in Gaza is entirely different than what I think about what's happening in the West bank.
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It's irrelevant to your Hamas buddies too. So more dead Hammas fighters is a brilliant idea. Preferably right till there are none left hiding in even a clinic for plastic surgery.
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So, the 'genocide' is accidental now? 🤣
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Only accident was you, you child hating genocidal freak who is hated and will die alone.
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Aw, now I have to do the right thing and not have a come back for you.
Also, not being manipulated by Hamas propaganda with pictures of dead children to me seems a lot less hateful that using those children as human shields when they were still alive. But I guess you don't mind what murderous gang you support.
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I know they were brutal to their POWs. I know they were brutal to the Chinese, both in the conduct of the war and to the occupied people. And brutal to occupied Korea and Indochina. What exactly is meant by "brutal" is something I only know very peripherally and frankly, I don't want to know any more.
But I don't know that they set up camps to exterminate in an almost production line fashion entire ethnic groups, like the Nazis did. And in occupied Soviet territories there were SS units whose only purpose was to round up and machine gun civilians, village by village, town by town, who had characteristics like: Jewish, party affiliation, were once in the Soviet army, had any leadership role anywhere, had advanced education of any kind, wore eyeglasses.... And I read excerpts from German officer diaries noting that Russia POWs captured at the start of Barbarossa were eating each other because the Germans didn't give them any food. Stuff like that is very very bad, IMO.
I don't KNOW the Japanese didn't do stuff like that, but I've never heard of it specifically. Hence my sense that the Germans were worse. Maybe it can only be subjective, any calculus to compare them being absurd. IDK.
And are you saying the Japanese were able to write for America their history of WW2? I seriously doubt that, but maybe you know something I don't. Its much more likely the US downplayed some of the Japanese horrors to more easily rehabilitate them as a post-war ally. The US civilians from the time absolutely HATED anyone Japanese, or anyone that looked East Asian, so I'm sure it was a concern. Side note, people today decry putting Japanese in internment camps for various reasons, but, one truth is they were safer there than outside the camps.
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
It's not accidental if it keeps on happening. The fundamental problem is that Israel loosened the rules of engagement to the point where massacring dozens of civilians is acceptable if it means killing a Hamas member. Most of the Palestinian civilian deaths weren't "accidents"; they were deliberate decisions to prioritize the killing of Hamas members, even low-ranking ones, over concern for civilian lives.
Hope is the denial of reality
Reuters and others reporting on a new study published in The Lancet estimating >64k direct (traumatic injury) deaths among Gaza's residents, with ~60% being women, children, and people over the age of 65:
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...dy-2025-01-09/
The paper: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...678-3/fulltext
Figure for indirect deaths obv likely to be far higher.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
I think there's little that the Germans did, that can't be found in the way the Japanese behaved in Asia.
What I mean when I say that somehow the Japanese have managed to write part of their history for the west, is how they didn't just manage to wipe their rule of terror under the carpet. To the point that most Westerners don't even know it existed. They also managed to make the destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki into events that magically transubstantiantiated perpetrators into victims. Americans feel a level of guilt over that we don't see over the firebombing of Germany cities like Hamburg or Dresden.
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If only Hamas would really care. But they don't.
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For the record, I don't feel any guilt about any WW2 bombing... it was a different era that I couldn't understand without living. Who am I to retroactively second guess? The US did what it felt it had to do - case closed.
On Hiroshima/ Nagasaki, they weren't even close to the worst of what Japan got. The US firebombed every major city in Japan - mostly wooden/ paper cities - and only spared those two because they planned to nuke them. I do think the atomic bombings were not *militarily* necessary, but heading into the post-war period, the US wanted to demonstrate to the world what we could and would do if provoked. And the army wanted in situ data describing what these bombs could do. So, ~250k people were killed. Out of the what, 80 to 100 million people killed worldwide through the course of the war, and god knows how many additional killed in China and the other Japanese conquests? It's barely a blip. It's just notable because it happened in a particularly terrifying way.
On victimization, to be fair, the people that lived in Hiroshima, and the civilians in all the cities throughout Japan, were victims - not just of US bombs but of shitty government and cultural disposition that led the nation into such violence and eventually dropping the sky on itself. Militaristic Japan was brutal, aggressive, arrogant and basically got what it deserved. Sucks to be a citizen of a country like that.
And I think we *should* mourn what happened to those people. We should mourn everything that happened surrounding that war - it was truly terrible beyond anything that preceded it or followed it. So much carnage.
Side note - Clint Eastwood made two movies depicting the battle for Iwo Jima - Flags of Our Fathers, from the US POV, and Letters from Iwo Jima, from the Japanese POV. It was nice to humanize the Japanese defenders there, but IMO: Fuck. Them. Every one of them.
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
There's too little difference in thinking to continue this tangent. But for me repeating that the Japanese armed forces were nazi-level evil.
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Just in. Zionist war criminals film themselves doing war crimes and post them on social media.
Victims of war criminals also post evidence of horrific war crimes and aftermath on social media.
Zionist war criminals are pursued by groups such as the Hind Rajab Foundation, named after a small child brutally murdered by the Zionist entity, when they are trying to travel abroad to have fun and relax.
Zionist war criminals cry about how they are the real victims here. Apparently it was a pogrom and holocaust all in one.
Then a Israeli news paper publishes the handy 'A guide for IDF soldiers: Here's how to act if arrested abroad and what to check before flight’.
How delightfully Zionutty.
P.S Just in case you don’t know or forgot.
'I'm so scared, please come': Heartbreaking final moments of girl, 5, killed in Gaza
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Genocidal Israeli attorney Moran Gaz, who calls for the killing of everyone who broke out of Gaza, regardless if they committed any type of crime against any part of the Zionist entity, tells Ynet
"In the end, we don't have any complainants [about rape on 7th October]. What was presented in the media compared to what will eventually come together will be entirely different…" Moran Gaz said."
Article. Article 2.
But let’s ignore her and believe this Zionist rape apologist.
How Zionutty.
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