Zionuts

[Steely Glint]

I don't doubt that it's a high number and a terrible number, but I think it's safe to doubt many metrics coming out of Gaza.

They're almost certain a massive under-count. There will be bodies under the rubble that haven't been recovered, people counted as missing who are actually dead and with the dissolution of civil society in Gaza it's likely that will never know the true number, though it's safe to say we're witnessing one of the greatest crimes against humanity of the 21st century.

[LittleFuzzy]

They're almost certain a massive under-count. There will be bodies under the rubble that haven't been recovered, people counted as missing who are actually dead and with the dissolution of civil society in Gaza it's likely that will never know the true number, though it's safe to say we're witnessing one of the greatest crimes against humanity of the 21st century.

Oh, we've got 3/4 of the century left to pile up even worse. And I gotta say, I don't think the outlook for the 21st is rosy. I'mma be happy if we can avoid a WWI or II during our lifetime

[Steely Glint]

Considering that Russia's strategy was to carpet-bomb cities, I don't think 100k is unreasonable. The Ukrainians admit to 30k military fatalities. I somehow doubt Russia didn't kill multiple civilians for each soldier, especially early in the conflict.

Which cities in Ukraine have been carpet bombed?

Oh, we've got 3/4 of the century left to pile up even worse. And I gotta say, I don't think the outlook for the 21st is rosy. I'mma be happy if we can avoid a WWI or II during our lifetime

It's got a solid chance of making the top 10 by the time 2100 rolls around, maybe even top 5.

[Loki]

Which cities in Ukraine have been carpet bombed?

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/w...-chechnya.html

Most of the villages and cities along the front at the beginning of the war. Kharkov, Kherson, Mariupol, and hundreds of smaller cities and villages. That's not to mention the regular indiscriminate bombings of Ukrainian cities far from the front or the butchering of entire villages (like Bucha). The only reason we know about some of the worst atrocities is because Ukraine took the territory back. Well, Russia still controls a vast majority of the territory it took early on.

And let's not forget the kidnapping of tens of thousands of Ukrainian children (which Russia openly admits to).

Lastly, the only reason Russia hasn't killed more is because of Ukraine fighting back (and missile defense systems). That and the intended purge of Kyiv suggests we'd be talking about at least a million dead if Russia had its way.