Can we please stop posting NWS or potentially NWS pics in non-NWS marked threads?

[DecoyMilk]

Sorry to be a stick in the mud, but I'm a bit sick of reading what should be a clean discussion, to find a picture that could potentially get me in trouble, depending on which boss/IT admin is watching what I'm doing!

As much as I love looking at AW's arse, if I had prior warning that AW's arse is in the thread simply entitled 'Underpants', then instead of reading the thread at work, I can read it where it deserves to be read: On my home computer while I furiously masturbate.

Please put 'NWS' or 'Mild-NWS' in thread titles, and if you want to post a NWS pic in the thread, ask the OP/mod to change the title before you do. I like my job, and would like to keep it.

Thank you, and sorry, I know this whole thing is a new concept, but I would appreciate it!

[RandBlade]

Or write NSFW in the thread title

Though I kind of wonder why you're reading a thread titled "underpants" at work ...

[DecoyMilk]

That's hardly a taboo subject, and it would have been fine without that one pic! :P

It's only on night shifts when I'm on the net. I don't have a great lot to do, so I sit on the net alot. I'd hate to get in shit cos I accidentally downloaded a pic I shouldn't have, and I would make you feel guilty for getting me in trouble! :P

[Dreadnaught]

Please put 'NWS' or 'Mild-NWS' in thread titles, and if you want to post a NWS pic in the thread, ask the OP/mod to change the title before you do. I like my job, and would like to keep it.

Better yet, folks should put it in spoilers with a NSFW tag. After all, a whole thread needn't be NSFW, just parts of it. If this happens, please report it. We've been over this in the past, so folks will get warnings if they don't do this.

[RandBlade]

Actually if its in a NSFW spoiler then that won't do for an image. I believe the image will still be downloaded, which could still potentially cause work problems even though it was never displayed.

[Nessus]

Yes, spoiler tags only keep it from being displayed, but if the workplace monitors intertrons usage, they'll see you downloaded a naughty image, inasmuch as they bother to track image hosting sites etc

[Dreadnaught]

But then isn't it sort of unfair to most of the participants/the thread starter if someone posts an NSFW thread and the thread is branded as NSFW?

It potentially cuts people off from the thread, just because some lout posted something racy in it.

[DecoyMilk]

But then isn't it sort of unfair to most of the participants/the thread starter if someone posts an NSFW thread and the thread is branded as NSFW?

It potentially cuts people off from the thread, just because some lout posted something racy in it.

Exactly! So either make a thread NWS or don't. If one is posted in a non-NWS marked thread, then you, or Rand, as mods, can delete the post.


Deal? Deal.

[RandBlade]

But then isn't it sort of unfair to most of the participants/the thread starter if someone posts an NSFW thread and the thread is branded as NSFW?

It potentially cuts people off from the thread, just because some lout posted something racy in it.

I think the point is that if the thread is not a NSFW thread then NSFW pictures shouldn't be posted.

Someone created a NSFW thread, post there if you want.

[Dreadnaught]

I think the issue is that NSFW tends to be a very broad brush. This is intentional -- so that people know to just steer clear, as some content in a thread (even just a small part) is not safe for work.

But if someone has a thread about politics and someone else posts a slightly inappropriate -- but relevant-- cartoon in it, removing it seems a bit harsh doesn't it?

For example, if we're talking about how nationalism increases during crises, someone could then post a picture of a burning American flag (or a cartoon about dumb Amerikans worshiping our flag). While the text is okay, the image alone is possibly NSFW in some places. But if we mark the whole thread NSFW we're telling people to stay back, even if it's just one image.

I guess my issue is that if your system administrators are possibly going through every image viewed in a browser at your office, the whole fracking Web is a minefield and I'm not sure if we should be telling people to stay away from something hidden in a spoiler.

[Nessus]

So what's the majority opinion? Should everyone who browses from work post their workplace no-no list (plus any country-specific no-nos such as embarrassing military operations etc) and we amend the rules accordingly,

or do the people browsing at work accept the risks involved? I smell a poll.

[Ziggy Stardust]

For a NSFW picture in a SFW thread, can't you simply post the link with a NSFW tag?

[DecoyMilk]

I think the issue is that NSFW tends to be a very broad brush. This is intentional -- so that people know to just steer clear, as some content in a thread (even just a small part) is not safe for work.

But if someone has a thread about politics and someone else posts a slightly inappropriate -- but relevant-- cartoon in it, removing it seems a bit harsh doesn't it?

For example, if we're talking about how nationalism increases during crises, someone could then post a picture of a burning American flag (or a cartoon about dumb Amerikans worshiping our flag). While the text is okay, the image alone is possibly NSFW in some places. But if we mark the whole thread NSFW we're telling people to stay back, even if it's just one image.

I guess my issue is that if your system administrators are possibly going through every image viewed in a browser at your office, the whole fracking Web is a minefield and I'm not sure if we should be telling people to stay away from something hidden in a spoiler.

I don't care about political cartoons, the only thing that I don't want on my work computer screen is porn, semi-porn, basically anything that is sexual, or showing flesh.

Everything else is fine

[Dreadnaught]

Yes, but for many people NSFW also encompasses anything that isn't a staple of mature, bare-bones browsing. EG anything on Failblog would be considered NSFW for some folks.

[Nessus]

For a NSFW picture in a SFW thread, can't you simply post the link with a NSFW tag?

You could, but that detracts from the desired impact!

[Flixy]

And the picture is still downloaded.

[Nessus]

And the picture is still downloaded.

You don't download the contents of a posted link until you click on it

[Flixy]

Oh wait, misread that. Sorry!

[RandBlade]

Yes, but for many people NSFW also encompasses anything that isn't a staple of mature, bare-bones browsing. EG anything on Failblog would be considered NSFW for some folks.

For those people, they probably shouldn't even be on the forum in the first place though ...

[Ziggy Stardust]

You could, but that detracts from the desired impact!

Yeah, right the impact.

I always forget the impact.

[Dreadnaught]

For those people, they probably shouldn't even be on the forum in the first place though ...

Possibly. But the key distinction seems to be that the image in a spoiler tag is still downloaded, right?

[Aimless]

How terrible can it be to refrain from posting nudity and nazism in random threads?

[RandBlade]

Possibly. But the key distinction seems to be that the image in a spoiler tag is still downloaded, right?

Yes, so simply don't post the image in work-safe threads.

[Dreadnaught]

But my point is that even mundane and slightly funny images can push an otherwise work safe thread into non-safe territory for some people. Isn't it sort of like tyranny of the minority if someone posting a failblog picture in a thread about politics means we have to go mark the thread NSFW?

[littlelolligagged]

All I know is that this discussion is giving me a huge desire to run around posting unspoilered naked pictures everywhere.

I could have sworn the last time we had this discussion it was decided that putting a spoiler tag over them was sufficient. To avoid drawing attention to the naked people. It's not like anyone is likely to be posting actual porn or anything.

[Dreadnaught]

Indeed, that's where it did net out. I think the new problem here is that spoiler tags still allow that image to be downloaded when someone loads a thread. So a network administrator viewing every image someone's browser downloads all the time (does that really happen?) would just see an inappropriate image was downloaded.

Maybe it makes sense to say NSFW here = nudity/sexual stuff?

[RandBlade]

But my point is that even mundane and slightly funny images can push an otherwise work safe thread into non-safe territory for some people. Isn't it sort of like tyranny of the minority if someone posting a failblog picture in a thread about politics means we have to go mark the thread NSFW?

I think the point is not that we need to mark normal threads as NSFW if somebody posts an image, but that the image should not be posted if the thread is not NSFW. We shouldn't change the thread title, we should remove the image.

I've never heard anyone complain that a Failblog pic is NSFW though.

I could have sworn the last time we had this discussion it was decided that putting a spoiler tag over them was sufficient. To avoid drawing attention to the naked people. It's not like anyone is likely to be posting actual porn or anything.

I thought it was decided to create a NSFW thread and then when that thread got created the images in it were also spoilered. But the thread was titled NSFW in the first place.

[Lebanese Dragon]

Yes, but for many people NSFW also encompasses anything that isn't a staple of mature, bare-bones browsing. EG anything on Failblog would be considered NSFW for some folks.

Pictures/Video are usually the big one, and we won't be able to please everyone, but I think no sex related pic would be a decent line. The people browsing have to use their head if they're work is really restrictive then we'd be potentially marking nearly everything NSFW to please them, and that defeats the purpose. So a moderate line that includes most people probably is best, and that won't largely affect the discussions themselves. I love the fact this is my 7th post.

[']['ear]

This is one where we really should err on the very conservative side. Such pics should never be a surprise.