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    I can't wait.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg46DWI_fCE

    AMC's got some of the best television on television.
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    Looks really great for a tv show. Too bad I don't get cable.
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    I wonder if this will reach yourope. Zombies are by form my favourite kind of undead.
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    The sun aint gonna shine anymore

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    I've already got it DVRd. Can't wait.
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    Is it just me, or do Zombie movies have a very limited plot flow chart? A popular one is "man wakes in hospital, no response from anybody."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ']['ear View Post
    Is it just me, or do Zombie movies have a very limited plot flow chart? A popular one is "man wakes in hospital, no response from anybody."
    I hate to break this to you but the "Person wakes up in an unfamiliar place, nobody around, no idea whats going on" is present in many other stories too. They're usually popular because they're familiar and work.
    . . .

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    That common? Can you name some that aren't horror?

    I like the "I am legend" start better. More creative film making, less formulaic. Requires good editing though

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    Quote Originally Posted by ']['ear View Post

    Is it just me, or do Zombie movies have a very limited plot flow chart? A popular one is "man wakes in hospital, no response from anybody."
    It's the exact plot of 28 Days Later. Not sure why they went with that.... It could be that its the story line of the graphic novel that this series is based on and maybe 28 Days Later ripped that off. I'm not sure how old the graphic novel is.

    But I think there's lots of plot room. Its not just a zombie film, its an End of World film too. The one thing I always find disappointing about Romero films is the main characters get set up in some safe place and the writers don't seem to know what to do with it after that. The rest of the story tends to be about how it unravels, most of the characters die, then the chosen few escape. Or everyone dies. Something like that. With a series, there's more to work with. I'm hoping it will be more creative than zombie battle of the week. AMC's got some excellant series - I serioulsy doubt they would sign on to this without some good writing out there at least.
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    28 days later the movie is from 2002, Walking Dead the comic is from 2003.

    Walking Dead wasn't meant as a big budget zombie story. More of a spoof attempt to show the big budget guys that zombie stories can be character-driven.
    It runs on a monthly print, 81 issues so far I think, so the show has plenty to work with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    28 days later the movie is from 2002, Walking Dead the comic is from 2004.

    Walking Dead wasn't meant as a big budget zombie story. More of a spoof attempt to show the big budget guys that zombie stories can be character-driven.
    I hope it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ']['ear View Post
    That common? Can you name some that aren't horror?
    Why would I have to name some that aren't horror? It'd be like saying that the mono-myth plot line and characterization wasn't that common because I couldn't find it in stories that it wouldn't fit in.

    Well anyway I can just point out Rip Van Winkle. Man falls asleep, and wakes up not understanding what has happened until he meets a group of people that explain that things are in fact now quite different than before he'd gone to sleep.

    I like the "I am legend" start better. More creative film making, less formulaic. Requires good editing though
    you complain about formulaic plot in the first one, then claim you like "I am Legend" better as its more creative and less formulaic when it runs on the "Unlikely hero resists call to action until his hand is forced" + "Hero sacrifices himself for sake of others" + "Lone survivor has imaginary friends" + "Human and Non-human sidekick". I'd trawl through TVTropes to find out the exact names for these, but I'd rather think that pointing them out should be sufficient...
    . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illusions View Post
    "Lone survivor has imaginary friends"
    WILSOOOOON!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ']['ear View Post
    That common? Can you name some that aren't horror?
    Only the greatest video game experience of all time,
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    It's the exact plot of 28 Days Later.
    ...which took it from Day of the Triffids, which probably took it from something else...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
    Only the greatest video game experience of all time,
    Heh, weird.
    Metacritic just did a greatest horror games of all time, and that was on the list.
    http://features.metacritic.com/featu...or-videogames/

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    NEW YORK - As if the morning commute wasn't odd enough, intrepid New Yorkers trying to make their way to work had to battle past hordes of the walking dead.

    Two dozen zombies, their clothes spattered with fake blood, were staggering up and down the block Tuesday outside Madison Square Garden. Downtown, others shuffled across the Brooklyn Bridge.

    Some pedestrians looked startled or amused by the ghost-white actors with bruised-looking eyes. Some people ignored them entirely. Others whipped out their cell cameras.

    Horror movie fan Linda Emery was thrilled to see the creatures.

    "I'm into zombies, anything with zombies," the 58-year-old home care provider from Brooklyn said. It made a change from her usual commute.

    "You see a lot of stuff, but not this stuff," she said.

    Erik Machado, an audio engineer heading to work in New Jersey, was unfazed and passed by the scene with nary a glance at the nightmares walking around.

    "Gotta commute, gotta go where I gotta go," the Queens resident said.

    The stunt was part of a campaign in 26 cities worldwide promoting the Halloween premiere of the AMC television series "The Walking Dead."

    At one point, about 15 zombies crawled on the roof, hood and trunk of a parked, off-duty taxi.

    Taxi driver David Pollack managed to escape from the horde, scrambling out of the back seat, playing along with the drama of it all.

    "I think I'm going to be walking over the George Washington Bridge and heading over to Jersey, hopefully they haven't gotten there yet," he said.

    He added, "I'm a tough New Yorker, but I don't mess with zombies."



    This would have been fun to see! AMC does have great movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ']['ear View Post
    Is it just me, or do Zombie movies have a very limited plot flow chart?
    Don't many tv series? Bunch of people stranded on an Island. Guy goes after terrorists. Guy tries to break out of jail. 6 thousand detectives try to solve 6 thousand murder cases with little to go on.

    At least Dr. Who has a twist. Guy in a wierdo-dimensional telephonebooth is chased by man-size kitchen appliances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowheart View Post
    Heh, weird.
    Metacritic just did a greatest horror games of all time, and that was on the list.
    http://features.metacritic.com/featu...or-videogames/
    How is it horror? What a bunch of cock-bags
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

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    Does Finland have a bunch of zombies walking around? Is Helsinki one of the 26 cities worldwide with zombies in the streets?

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    I have no idea
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy Stardust View Post
    Don't many tv series? Bunch of people stranded on an Island. Guy goes after terrorists. Guy tries to break out of jail. 6 thousand detectives try to solve 6 thousand murder cases with little to go on.
    That's why I prefer porn, always unique and original plots.
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    It reminded me a lot of After the apocalypse, though there the zombie thing was caused by scientists opening an alien spaceship. Wasn't too bad as these things go, though was a bit annoyed by the black guy's inability to finish off the wife-zombie. Yeah, it's all very upsetting blah blah, but she's dead and should be put to rest. His son is alive and has to cope with the corpse that once was his mother scraping at the front door, trying to get in to kill him.

    The one thing that bugs me about zombies is that whenever they are going down on a life person they devour him/her. But for some reason the zombies themselves hardly ever look like they were somebodies dinner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post

    The one thing that bugs me about zombies is that whenever they are going down on a life person they devour him/her. But for some reason the zombies themselves hardly ever look like they were somebodies dinner.
    That is an issue I've wondered about too. The problem is the film is set up to be shocking. Getting eaten alive by zombies is pretty shocking, so they put those scenes in there. They don't think much about how A doesn't flow to B very well.

    Regarding the wake up from coma to post end of world plot line, I think writers use that device to avoid having to depict the slow collapse of civilization which must be costly and difficult to do convincingly on screen. Its a cheap trick, really. That's one of the things I respect about Stephen King. When he wrote The Stand, he went from start to finish in great detail. I think a sweeping series that starts with the first few zombies and follows characters right through the collapse of civilization and beyond, if done well, would be awesome to watch.
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    Yep, Stephen King's The Stand did the apocalypse fairly well. The two-part movie adaptation was pretty good too.

    Yet even that had the man-in-hospital-not-knowing-what-the-fuck-is-going-on aspect: Gary Sinise played him in the movie adaptation. Though he was taken to hospital because he was immune to the disease as it spread, so he did have some clue, especially as the doctors dealing with him succumbed to it eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timbuk2 View Post
    Yep, Stephen King's The Stand did the apocalypse fairly well. The two-part movie adaptation was pretty good too.

    Yet even that had the man-in-hospital-not-knowing-what-the-fuck-is-going-on aspect: Gary Sinise played him in the movie adaptation. Though he was taken to hospital because he was immune to the disease as it spread, so he did have some clue, especially as the doctors dealing with him succumbed to it eventually.
    But that was only one of many story lines. And he did some expository stuff where he just talked about what was going down. Its not comparable to 28 Days Later.
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    Yep indeed, just one of the many threads in that tale.

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    Anyone seen a movie called The Beyond?

    I remember being absolutely petrified when I watched it as a kid in the early eighties. Seem to remember it was an apocalyptic zombie movie, where the protagonists were holed up in some building or similar, but were picked away one by one.

    Have heard nothing about it since ...
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    The one thing that bugs me about zombies is that whenever they are going down on a life person they devour him/her. But for some reason the zombies themselves hardly ever look like they were somebodies dinner.
    They've had ones in other movies where the zombies are missing arms, small bites out of the neck, guts protruding, and in the preview for "The Walking Dead" showed a female zombie missing her legs (actually it looks more like most of her lower body*). Naturally you'd never see the zombies that were too extensively eaten as they'd be immobile, or have had their head severed from their body. Zombie natural selection.

    *Edit: 4:07 in the youTube Official Trailer. Pretty much all of her lower body is gone, as is most of the skin on her ribcage.
    . . .

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    Has anybody seen an old SF movie (black and white IIRC) where there were weird black crystals that slowly spread across the countryside? I saw some of it when I was a kid and could never figure out what movie it was.

    Nevermind, found it: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050720/usercomments

    I'll need to see if I can't watch this again. Made a strong impression when I was a kid, but those are so often disappointing when re-visited. At least this one gets good reviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ']['ear View Post
    Has anybody seen an old SF movie (black and white IIRC) where there were weird black crystals that slowly spread across the countryside? I saw some of it when I was a kid and could never figure out what movie it was.

    Nevermind, found it: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050720/usercomments

    I'll need to see if I can't watch this again. Made a strong impression when I was a kid, but those are so often disappointing when re-visited. At least this one gets good reviews.
    I think I saw that too. I used to catch all the old horror / scifi movines on Saturday afternoon. I need to look up some of those old Vincent Price movies...
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