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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    Having misremembered this thread I decided to give The Expanse a go. We're seven episodes in and loving it so far, flaws and all. Solid production. I'd been avoiding it because of the dark aesthetic and because of Shohreh Aghdashloo but we were hooked before the end of the first episode.
    Funny, she's one of the things I like a lot about the show (and yes, I am reading back).
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  2. #1472
    Oh no, she's fantastic in the show I was apprehensive because her presence is so powerful that it always feels like she's playing the same character—namely herself.
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  3. #1473
    Indeed, she has a powerful presence. But in the right role, as she is as Chrisjen Avasarala, she is supreme. And so I agree with Hazir, she is one of the main things that The Expanse so watchable. Great casting there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

  4. #1474
    Quote Originally Posted by Timbuk2 View Post
    Indeed, she has a powerful presence. But in the right role, as she is as Chrisjen Avasarala, she is supreme. And so I agree with Hazir, she is one of the main things that The Expanse so watchable. Great casting there.
    Am I a bad person that The Expanse doesn't really do it for me? I mean I watch a few episodes here and there but leave it and come back months later. It doesn't really grip me all that much, even if the production value is really solid as is some of the acting. Part of it might be that I only read Leviathan Wakes and didn't really like it all that much... seemed to be rehashing existing tropes a bit too much for me. *shrugs*

    I'm ashamed to admit that I've been re-watching Chuck for the umpteenth time. IMO that show has nearly infinite rewatch potential, especially the first couple of seasons. The premise is solidly absurd, the plotting is barely existent, it's blatantly and unapologetically aimed at mass consumption. But it's like someone decided they wanted to make a spy thriller version of The Office - but instead of making it mopey and bitter (albeit hilarious), they just made it lighthearted and absurd. And all of the characters are so fundamentally likable, even if they're caricatures.

    It's perfect 2020 watching material. That and Parks and Rec, which I recently started watching and absolutely love for similar reasons.
    "When I meet God, I am going to ask him two questions: Why relativity? And why turbulence? I really believe he will have an answer for the first." - Werner Heisenberg (maybe)

  5. #1475
    Quote Originally Posted by wiggin View Post
    Am I a bad person that The Expanse doesn't really do it for me? I mean I watch a few episodes here and there but leave it and come back months later. It doesn't really grip me all that much, even if the production value is really solid as is some of the acting. Part of it might be that I only read Leviathan Wakes and didn't really like it all that much... seemed to be rehashing existing tropes a bit too much for me. *shrugs*

    I'm ashamed to admit that I've been re-watching Chuck for the umpteenth time. IMO that show has nearly infinite rewatch potential, especially the first couple of seasons. The premise is solidly absurd, the plotting is barely existent, it's blatantly and unapologetically aimed at mass consumption. But it's like someone decided they wanted to make a spy thriller version of The Office - but instead of making it mopey and bitter (albeit hilarious), they just made it lighthearted and absurd. And all of the characters are so fundamentally likable, even if they're caricatures.

    It's perfect 2020 watching material. That and Parks and Rec, which I recently started watching and absolutely love for similar reasons.
    It's a funny thing, what grips you and engages, and what doesn't.

    Yes I was gripped from the get-go with The Expanse. I swallowed it greedily chunk by chunk, licked my lips and hungered for more. Sure there are niggles and the odd jarring aspects, but what show on this production scale doesn't have those. So long as the niggles don't break the suspension of disbelief, it's all good.

    And then you mention loving Parks and Recreation of which I watched a few episodes, shrugged, and didn't care for more. These faux reality shows I feel are much better done by the British. There is a subtlety to this type of humour which the British to do so well, a cringe-worthiness to it that leads you to watch it half from behind your hands because it makes you so uncomfortable. American equivalents are too, I don't know, obvious? The British The Office was so much better than the American spin-off - David Brent was so awful it was brilliant. I'm a big fan of Steve Carrell - he tends to play parts that I find hilarious, but Michael Scott didn't work for me.

    Twenty-twelve and its follow-up W1A with Hugh Bonneville and Olivia Coleman are other examples of hilarious UK faux reality shows that I've loved, and more recently This Country, whose characters are so useless, depressing and abject it makes for great viewing. Parks and Recreation tries to do the same thing, with depressing and useless characters, but fails to engage.

    I suppose humour is about the most individual of things. I go to comedy festivals with friends, one of which is an annual thing. I will watch a stand-up who engages, typically of the slightly surreal kind, and I will be gasping for breath with tears streaming down my face I'm laughing so much, and I turn to my partner and friends and they're puzzled, not getting it at all and can't understand what I find so funny. Then the next stand-up will come on, and I'll be bored, yet my friends will be slapping their thighs finding it hilarious.
    Last edited by Timbuk2; 07-26-2020 at 09:04 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

  6. #1476
    It's funny, I actually watched a few episodes of Parks and Rec years ago and didn't really enjoy it. I only came back to it on the recommendation of a friend. The first (6 episode) season was really finding its legs - they made some subtle shifts in the characters thereafter that really paid off - Leslie went from being earnest but clueless to being earnest and capable, which was miles better. They also hit their stride with some other characters and writing. I normally don't like the mockumentary style all that much - I thought all three versions of The Office that I've seen had their good parts, but nothing that made me a rabid fan. And it's possible that if I were watching Parks and Rec in a normal time, I'd feel the same way. But it's not a normal time - and seeing a genuinely dedicated public servant try to make her little slice of the world a better place - bureaucracy and incompetence be damned - is, frankly, heartwarming. It's amusing feel-good television and about a thousand times better than me watching some police procedural, SF shoot-em-up, or whatever else.
    "When I meet God, I am going to ask him two questions: Why relativity? And why turbulence? I really believe he will have an answer for the first." - Werner Heisenberg (maybe)

  7. #1477
    Ok, well I'll persist beyond S1 and see how it goes
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

  8. #1478
    Someone recommended Brooklyn Nine-Nine and told me I'd love it if I liked P&R. I really couldn't bring myself to stick with P&R, and was ambivalent about B99 at first... but I stuck with it just a little longer and now it's one of my all-time favourite shows. The writing is excellent, but it's mostly about how good the actors are at bringing their characters to life—and the chemistry they have with each other. The books on which The Expanse is based are not as good as the show, but the show really brings those books to life; reading them becomes much more enjoyable when you have the characters from the show in your head. Each actor seems to have a very good sense of the person they're portraying, and they have fantastic chemistry.
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
    — Bill Gates

  9. #1479
    Been watching Attack on Titan, a simply crazy, and well done, Anime show about a world dominated by naked giants that obsessively eat people. Seasons 1-3 are on Hulu and the dubbing is very good, if you're not fluent and/or a speed reader.
    The Rules
    Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
    Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
    Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)

  10. #1480
    About to finish the entire second season of Umbrella Academy in one sitting.
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
    — Bill Gates

  11. #1481
    Not heard of that before until recently saw it advertised on Netflix. Seems to be very watchable.

    Will check it out this week.
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

  12. #1482
    Season 1 was cool but a bit hit-or-miss. Season 2 is one of the best seasons of a show I've ever seen, apart from a couple of pacing errors and the fake Swedish. They really connect with their characters, have good chemistry, the direction & editing is excellent, dope soundtrack, good balance between drama and comedy, very well realized supporting characters. There's a Dirk Gently vibe but more refined. IMO anyway Definitely made to be binged, don't approach it as if you're an adult with responsibilities
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
    — Bill Gates

  13. #1483
    The second season was a lot of fun to watch. I'd agree about planning to binge the show, though - I started it in the early evening and didn't even want to tear myself away to cook and eat dinner.
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

  14. #1484
    Forced myself to sit through The Old Guard. Cool premise, no soul, execution reminiscent of generic teen scifi drama. Stilted dialogue. Passable action choreography, but unsatisfying action sequences. Almost no standout scenes. Bad soundtrack. Uninteresting villain. Inadequate worldbuilding. Practically no chemistry—Nicky & Joe notwithstanding. Fails at melodrama and the portrayal of personal tragedy (apart from one scene with Booker). Tries too hard to be cool, but lacks style. Not provocatively bad, just didn't work out. I agree with the bad reviews and am having difficulties understanding where the enthusiasm about this movie (in both critic reviews & audience reviews) is coming from. Just not seeing it at all.
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
    — Bill Gates

  15. #1485
    Yes, forced.
    It IS a pretty crappy movie.

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