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    Indeed of course that all matters though there's a reason why I emphasised Senators and Governors not Congressmen as the former traditionally are a lot more independent than the latter.
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    In other words, Trump IS the leader of the Republican Party.

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    He is A leader of the Republican Party.

    The House Majority Leader and Speaker of the House of Representatives amongst others are other Leaders of the Republican Party.
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    Being upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    That's not really how the public views it.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    No but it is how the elected Representatives, Senators, Governors, State Senators, State Representatives etc see it. Versus GGT's suggestion that they should "jump ship" simply going against Trump is more plausible than jumping ship.
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    Hang on, Rand. Are you saying elected Republicans don't consider Trump the leader of their party?

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    Hope is the denial of reality

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    You know the best way to deflate conspiracy theorists is to actually put more information out there.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/14/us/las...ons/index.html

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    You gotta do what you gotta do when "unstable white guy" describes both the shooter and your base.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    You know the best way to deflate conspiracy theorists is to actually put more information out there.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/14/us/las...ons/index.html
    You know an even better way? Not having freaking congressmen spread them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    You know an even better way? Not having freaking congressmen spread them.
    Unless he stated something factually wrong I'm not sure what the issue is. A lot of other Americans are curious as well as what was up with this guy. Did he have support from someone? What were his political beliefs? What were his motives? EVERY mass shooting leads to these questions and most of the time all that information is on blast within a week of the event. It didn't happen here and because of this conspiracy theories spawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    Unless he stated something factually wrong I'm not sure what the issue is. A lot of other Americans are curious as well as what was up with this guy. Did he have support from someone? What were his political beliefs? What were his motives? EVERY mass shooting leads to these questions and most of the time all that information is on blast within a week of the event. It didn't happen here and because of this conspiracy theories spawn.
    Are you serious? The entire terrorism angle is fake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Are you serious? The entire terrorism angle is fake.
    There is a difference between fake and skeptical.

    Saying "Terrorists did it, this was a cover-up, 911 inside job raaaah." And saying "Kinda odd how we still don't know any details, seems interesting ISIS took credit for it - could we get some more light on his motives?"

    The sad truth is that there is little doubt liberals would hide information from the public about who did it for fear of 'increased bigotry.' At this point there is no real evidence that ISIS or any other Islamic Terrorist faction was behind it - ISIS takes credit for everything and anything. The point is release the info - let people's questions be answered. I see little to no reason why investigators haven't pushed some plausible theories backed by evidence they found. Normally these crazies leave a trail. When the silence is deafening you get people putting their own theories out instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    The sad truth is that there is little doubt liberals would hide information from the public about who did it for fear of 'increased bigotry.'
    The sad truth is that that's the dumbest statement of 2018 so far and it's hilarious to see you bring out that argument in a discussion about conspiracy theories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    Little doubt liberals would hide information from the public
    This is some seriously hardcore projecting. Shit, we just went over how conservatives hide info in the rape kit thread. Between this thread and the "I'm not racist, buuuuut" replies in the other thread last night I can only assume you were posting under the influence.

    EDIT: To clarify, your positions aren't surprising, but you usually aren't this stupid when trying to "discuss" them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    The sad truth is that that's the dumbest statement of 2018 so far and it's hilarious to see you bring out that argument in a discussion about conspiracy theories.
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journal...amaritan-shot/

    Or heck abroad you'll have Middle Eastern terrorists described as "Asian."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journal...amaritan-shot/

    Or heck abroad you'll have Middle Eastern terrorists described as "Asian."
    Every time you post something like this, it makes you look a little more dumb. It's not useful to report a suspect's race unless you can verify that information and can provide other useful identifying information. The Mail has no journalistic standards and is therefore not above providing false, unverified and/or useless information. The claim that not providing uncorroborated info about his race let him evade capture is not only wrong but stupidly wrong. How do you think "black male in a hoodie" is supposed to help members of the public identify him? If anything, it'll help him evade capture as the police gets random tips about unrelated black men in hoodies.

    This article doesn't lend any support to your previous and shamefully stupid conspiracy theory. Your conspiracy theory is essentially that officials--FBI, DHS etc--are covering up the Vegas shooter's ISIS affiliations in order to avoid triggering racists. Does this story show officials covering up such info for similar reasons? No, it shows the police identifying a suspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    Every time you post something like this, it makes you look a little more dumb. It's not useful to report a suspect's race unless you can verify that information and can provide other useful identifying information. The Mail has no journalistic standards and is therefore not above providing false, unverified and/or useless information. The claim that not providing uncorroborated info about his race let him evade capture is not only wrong but stupidly wrong. How do you think "black male in a hoodie" is supposed to help members of the public identify him? If anything, it'll help him evade capture as the police gets random tips about unrelated black men in hoodies.

    This article doesn't lend any support to your previous and shamefully stupid conspiracy theory. Your conspiracy theory is essentially that officials--FBI, DHS etc--are covering up the Vegas shooter's ISIS affiliations in order to avoid triggering racists. Does this story show officials covering up such info for similar reasons? No, it shows the police identifying a suspect.
    I'm actually not suggesting there is a conspiracy by the FBI and DHS to hide it, I'm saying the lack of information creates conspiracy theorists because of similar behavior by other law enforcement and media. The best way to resolve it is to get out in front of it.

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