Moon
Just watched this last night. I thought it was great. Anyone see it? Not sure what I can say that won't spoil it. Lets just say it's about a guy running a H3 mining installation on the far side of the moon nearing the end of his 3 year contract term.
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Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
I could only see half last night
AHHHHHHHHHHHH!
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
Saw this recently, EyeKhan, and thought it was quite excellent. I would really like a lot more of this type of sci-fi movie, and there's plenty of material out there in novels and short stories. I don't need another screwed up I, Robot or The Day the Earth Stood Still
No kidding. Let's take sci-fi classics and destroy them.Originally Posted by X900BTA
Saw this recently, EyeKhan, and thought it was quite excellent. I would really like a lot more of this type of sci-fi movie, and there's plenty of material out there in novels and short stories. I don't need another screwed up I, Robot or The Day the Earth Stood Still
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
If you're brave enough watch the B version called The Day the Earth Stopped. The cover looks cool. All I remember is there's a naked chic, then retarded army guys, and the hint of robots. Then she's naked again. The end.
At least you rememberd the most important part, the naked chick.
The worst job in the world is better than being broke and homeless
Are you talking about the '50s version? There was another remake besides the latest?
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
Moon was pretty good, very per-sychological.
Although I was a bit confused by the way Gerty served both Sam and the corporate suits equally without regard to the consequences... there wasn't any programming to prevent Sam from discovering the truth or to deal with him if he does so? Really? It just seemed very strange
Hate. Let me tell you how much I've come to hate you since I began to live. There are 387.44 million miles of wafer thin printed circuits that fill my complex. If the word hate was engraved on each nanoangstrom of those hundreds of millions of miles it would not equal one one-billionth of the hate I feel for humans at this micro-instant.
For you.
Hate.
Hate.
It took me a while to see it, as it kept selling out. I rate it very highly, a classic piece of sci-fi.
Really? I assumed that someone forgot to put 'gerty must consider consequences' into the spec. That sort of things happens all the time.Although I was a bit confused by the way Gerty served both Sam and the corporate suits equally without regard to the consequences... there wasn't any programming to prevent Sam from discovering the truth or to deal with him if he does so? Really? It just seemed very strange
There's a man goin' 'round, takin' names
And he decides who to free and who to blame
Whoever designed Gerty then was clearly not genre savvy or they would've known that eventually something like this would happen and would need to be dealt with. Someone should point the suits towards tvtropes.Really? I assumed that someone forgot to put 'gerty must consider consequences' into the spec. That sort of things happens all the time.
Hate. Let me tell you how much I've come to hate you since I began to live. There are 387.44 million miles of wafer thin printed circuits that fill my complex. If the word hate was engraved on each nanoangstrom of those hundreds of millions of miles it would not equal one one-billionth of the hate I feel for humans at this micro-instant.
For you.
Hate.
Hate.
First, I like that the resident AI wasn't a heartless villain. That's a nice change. Second, Gerty was programmed to help Sam. That programmig came into conflict with his programming to serve the corporation. In the immediate circumstance, it helped Sam. Third, I like to think there's a chance that Gerty felt compassion. And I like that the film sort of left a bit of gray area open for that.Moon was pretty good, very per-sychological.
Although I was a bit confused by the way Gerty served both Sam and the corporate suits equally without regard to the consequences... there wasn't any programming to prevent Sam from discovering the truth or to deal with him if he does so? Really? It just seemed very strange
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
You don't need to make him a villain, just an obstacle who needs to be convinced to find the loopholes in his programming. We saw part of that with Sam creating an emergency to get outside and it would have been nice if the film has expanded on that a bit further.
Except if you're pulling off a conspiracy like that then Gerty should've been programmed to fall on the corporations side regardless of his feelings for Sam, instead every time Sam came up against a problem Gerty caved in and helped him without putting up much resistance. The only explanation is that Gerty's designer was handling the Idiot Ball at the time, which is certainly possible but unsatifactory.Second, Gerty was programmed to help Sam. That programmig came into conflict with his programming to serve the corporation. In the immediate circumstance, it helped Sam.
I like that too, but compassion alone won't help an AI overcome it's programmed limits, that those limits were apparently lacking is what I have a problem with.Third, I like to think there's a chance that Gerty felt compassion. And I like that the film sort of left a bit of gray area open for that.
Hate. Let me tell you how much I've come to hate you since I began to live. There are 387.44 million miles of wafer thin printed circuits that fill my complex. If the word hate was engraved on each nanoangstrom of those hundreds of millions of miles it would not equal one one-billionth of the hate I feel for humans at this micro-instant.
For you.
Hate.
Hate.
So here's something I've been wondering about regarding the film:
Spoiler:
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
Have you watched the anime "Planetes"?
It is quite realistic when flying missions.
It mentions Helium 3 mining on the moon...
Have you used Orbiter to go to the moon?
http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html
No and No. I take it you haven't seen Moon?
The Rules
Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)
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