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    Default Batman US cinema shooting: 12 dead in Colorado

    At least 12 people have been killed and 38 injured in a shooting at a cinema showing the new Batman film near the US city of Denver, Colorado.

    Witnesses said a man wearing a gas mask opened fire after tossing a tear gas canister at a midnight showing of The Dark Knight Rises.

    A 24-year-old man was arrested in a car park nearby in possession of a rifle, handgun and knife.

    One other gun was recovered from the theatre, which is in Aurora.

    Police have revised down the death toll from 14. They said about 50 people had been shot, including the deceased.

    FBI sources named the gunman as Aurora resident James Holmes. They said no terrorism link had been established.

    Child casualties

    US President Barack Obama has spoken of his shock at the incident, which began at about 00:30 local time (06:30 GMT) at the Century 16 cinema complex.

    The suspect told police explosives had been stored at his home.

    Police chief Dan Oates told reporters that an apartment block in the north of Aurora had been evacuated as they investigated that information.

    He said the shooting was "a horrific event".

    "Witnesses tell us he released some sort of canister," he added. "They heard a hissing sound and some gas emerged and the gunman opened fire.

    "The shooting apparently went on for some time."

    Ten people were killed at the cinema and two others died later in hospital of their wounds.

    Many ambulances attended the scene.

    Local media report that six victims, ranging in age from six to 31, were being treated at the Aurora Children's Hospital.

    The youngest victim was a three-month-old baby.

    One witness said a man in a bullet-proof vest and riot helmet had been "slowly making his way up the stairs and just firing - picking random people".

    Panic

    Another witness, Chayyiel Jackson, told the BBC: "During the first action scene in the movie, on the right side a dude came in all blacked out, with a black mask. At first we thought it was part of the movie event.

    "He threw tear gas across the crowd and after that people started to panic. He pulled out a rifle and started shooting.

    "I was wondering if this was real life or a dream."

    Hospital officials said some of the wounded were being treated for the effects of tear gas.

    Another eyewitness, identified only as Pam, told the BBC: "He fired a canister into the air. It shot it right into the air, then I started to hear the bang, bang, bang of a gun.

    "I crawled my way through the row. Luckily the exit was close to where I was sitting so I got out pretty fast. I heard more shots as I left."

    Another eyewitness, Salina Jordan, 19, told the Denver Post she had seen one girl shot in the cheek, and a girl who appeared to be about nine years old with a gunshot wound to the stomach.

    A witness in the next-door theatre told 9News he initially thought live special effects had been laid on by the cinema after hearing loud bangs and seeing smoke.

    President Obama said in a statement that he and First Lady Michelle Obama were "shocked and saddened by the horrific and tragic shooting".

    He added: "We are committed to bringing whoever was responsible to justice, ensuring the safety of our people, and caring for those who have been wounded.

    "As we do when confronted by moments of darkness and challenge, we must now come together as one American family."
    So.
    Local nutter?
    Man off his face on PCP?
    Gun-enthusiast with highly dubious beliefs re: immigration/gun control/economic downturn?
    Failed suicide attempt of man who wanted to take others with him?
    Otherwise sane man whose life has taken a downturn recently and become bitter and filled with rage?
    Spurned lover?

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    Fucked up either way.

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    WTF
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    There are a few threads on the front page of reddit from people who claim they were there. One guy was posting from his hospital bed, still had the shirt with the bullet hole and blood stains.

    Fox already did a segment, someone there was saying that the parents of the children are just as much to blame since it was a midnight rated M movie. Fucking morons
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    M != Should be shot

    Though on a school night children shouldn't have been there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    No school. Summer break.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    M != Should be shot

    Though on a school night children shouldn't have been there.
    School ends in June.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    Then if its not a school night, its nobodies business but their parents if kids are there. Assuming M means that kids are legally allowed to go if they have parental accompaniment?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    Movie ratings are a voluntary service, no laws are involved, most theaters restrict children under 18 or 13 due to a rating, but if an adult is present the theater doesn't say a thing.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comment...rora_massacre/
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    This is a raw timeline, a few lines are linked, so use the source above for a more complete picture
    Spoiler:

    ALL TIMES IN MDT, AM

    1:27: "Bring as much crime scene tape as you can"

    1:28: Aurora PD merging communications with Denver PD

    1:35: Shooter wearing green camo pants

    1:37: bomb squad is there, bringing in K-9 units. possible other bombs

    1:40: 18 ambulances on scene

    1:41: 9news story posted.

    1:42: "All ten people in the theater are black." Fatalities.

    1:43: Report of a bomb going off in a theater.

    1:45: Patients being transported to Denver Health

    1:47: Command staff briefing. This is huge.

    1:49: Car, Tennesee plates, Hyundai, license [redacted]. third to west, in front of doors. Possible bomb. Main entrances of mall covered. Bomb squad moving in.

    1:53: Canine units coordinating at SE entrance between JC Penney's and the food court. May be a bomb in there. Theory that bombs may be in front of theater.

    1:55: New evidence for shooters. That's plural. Theater 8, the shooter was seated. One more was outside, went into Theater 9. Coordinated attack. Two shooters. Open door discovered at mall. Suspicion of bomb in there.

    1:56: One shooter at large, one in custody. From Facebook: Someone set off some little party poppers in our theatre, next thing I know someone runs in and said there was a shooting. We huddled down into the seats because people were outside the exit. I was fortunate enough to get home safely with my sister but a few friends are still stuck there.

    1:57: Due to bombs, police relocating all units to S of Dillard's. Open door was in Macy's. Suspicions of bombs there.

    2:01: Submitted to Reddit. Second device possibly found, setting up a "unified command"

    2:06: On /r/denver.

    Comment from /u/ThePenguinist: My best friend was at this. She said it happened about 30-40 minutes into the midnight premiere. Someone burst through the door and started shooting tear gas and then a gun. The only reason they got out was because they hit the ground and went for the door on their bellies. OMFG.

    2:04: MSNBC tweets the story.

    2:06: Secondary explosive device found in front of theater

    2:08: Bringing K-9 unit to the command post.

    2:14: Indian male found as witness. People (witnesses) moving to the food court entrance

    2:18: Witnesses being transported to Gateway High School. There are 100 witnesses.

    2:26: Story on MSNBC here

    2:28: Theatre 9 going to Gateway HS. Everyone else is triaged. No vehicles allowed to leave. Witnesses being photographs.

    2:30: Water jugs being moved.

    2:36: Called the Denver Batman massacre by the Belfas Telegraph

    2:42: "Possible older cop car-type seen fleeing the scene"

    2:45: Which ambulances going where: 5 to Denver, 14 to University, 4 to Children's, 3 to Aurora South, 2 to Parker, 2 to Swedish

    2:47: From 9News: 15 mins into movie, popping heard. People thought it was part of the movie. Saw material coming through the wall. Chaotic. Caused a scramble. Several injured people escorted into ambulances. Flow of ambulances slowed down, flow of police has not. SWAT teams there. Theater 9: Guy in body armor. "One of the largest scenes I've seen in my journalistic career."

    2:52: Several police cars surrounding a vehicle. Possible explosive devices inside.

    2:54: Tuned in to the 9News stream.

    2:58: Newscast from Gateway HS. Witness is talking. People heard explosions and gunfire. No idea what happened. One shooter had a gas mask and was throwing tear gas.

    2:59: Scanners report knife pulled on someone. WAY far away from theater. May be unrelated.

    3:01: Someone reporting hand pain outside the theater.

    3:02: Confirmed: At least 10 killed, 39 injured. Theaters 8 and 9 were sold out, and that's where the shooting took place. 9News confirms that one person is in custody.

    3:02: Nothing found inside the mall so far. Dogs coming out.

    3:06: Witness interview from earlier being replayed. Witness in Theater 9 was young woman. She described a man about 6' tall kicked through the door in a riot helmet and bulletproof vest. He was completely covered in all black, with goggles. After that, she and her boyfriend dropped to the floor. They got up, ran through the emergency exit. Shooter made his way up the stairs and started shooting people with the shotgun.

    3:10: News is stalling until the police chief address.

    3:15: Press conference: Gas released, gunman opened fire. Only know of one gunman. Police officers respond, find the gunman outside of the theater, carrying gas mask, rifle, handgun. One additional weapon found inside. 50 were hit. 14 confirmed dead.

    3:15: /u/elcooleric comments from the shooting.

    3:30: AR-15 was the gun potentially used. One shooter or two? Many questions and very few answers other than a new death toll after the press conference. Keep your thoughts with the victims and their families.

    3:42: More testimonies. Babies and small girls shot. News anchors getting emotional. Reports that the suspect had explosives in his apartment, which is also being searched.

    3:48: Another /r/denver post from /u/WaterSnake: here

    3:49: More confirmation. 14 dead. 50 injured.

    3:58: /u/damian001 finds a video of the shooters aftermath. Warning, graphic contents. mirrored

    4:01: We beat 9News on the video. The video is extremely slightly graphic, and they aren't showing it with audio.

    4:04: "No reason to believe there is a second gunman"

    4:06: 10 died at the theater, 4 died at the hospital. 50 others had injuries.

    4:13: 911 calls and police radio being played. They're talking about the tear gas.

    4:30: 15 people confirmed dead. 9News may have been was hoaxed.

    4:35: President Barack Obama notified about the shooting.

    4:36: /u/derphurr updates: a man was shot in Kia outside theater, police spotted man in gas mask (the suspect) in parking lot outside the back of the movie theater after the shooting, police found suspect by his car in the parking lot

    4:37: Another witness interview. Person's friend shot, but not fatally. "All I can do is pray."

    4:41: /u/nilicule links the Denver 7News broadcast.

    4:46: Children's hospital in Aurora treating six victims aged 6 to 31; Chik-fil-a is opening for officers that need restrooms/food

    4:48: /u/mkyweriga: Officer reports Navy Petty Officer inquiring about a US Navy Sailor being killed in the incident. Officers are unaware of the identities of any of the victims at this time.

    4:50: /u/mkyweriga: Mall is cleared, floor cleaner released from police custody.

    4:55: Just called 9News about this timeline. Today Show has cancelled their show. Michael Phelps sends his condolences.

    5:04: White House releases a statement offering condolences: /u/nilicule here

    5:10: Youngest patient at University hospital is 3 months old, according to a tweet

    5:15: I found a Wikipedia page about the shootings.

    5:16: /u/nilicule: Good Morning America reports at least 100 FBI agents are on scene in Aurora, Colorado.

    5:17: /u/hgmanifold: Car cleared by bomb squad, clearing backpacks.

    5:19: /u/yelhsa87: Video of police describing shootings.

    5:25: /u/nilicule: Eyewitness tells @todayshow that gunman was dressed in SWAT-like outfit, methodically shot people as they tried to exit room. Another walk-in victim at University (/u/hgmanifold).

    5:26: /u/Deus_Viator: Two eyewitnesses on 9News say that 2 gas canisters were thrown from separate locations in the theater. Maybe multiple gunmen? EDIT: I've been following this since 1:30 and it seemed like multiple gunmen around then. Take with a grain of salt. For now.

    5:27: /u/hgmanifold: Bomb squad is requesting a Ladder Truck and 30ft boom with "cherry picker"

    5:28: Mitt Romney: 'Ann and I are deeply saddened by the news of the senseless violence that took the lives of 15 people in Colorado'

    5:32: /u/dr0ne_: Take with an entire container of salt. 4chan thread Also: "Shut that area down, we don't want anyone to trigger these devices"

    5:33: Suspect's house confirmed: 17th & Peoria

    5:35: FBI: Suspect indicates he has explosives at his house.

    5:36: /u/jason-samfield: Tissue samples being collected for evidence.

    5:40: /u/hgmanifold: Bomb Squad released.

    5:43: /u/SimonHova: Twitter link of first (unconfirmed) victim. Her last tweet was 20 minutes before the start of the movie. source

    5:44: /u/nilicule: All available SWAT to report to 17th and Peoria for meeting will be soon releasing a team.

    Also, from /u/nilicule: The cinema where the attack took place is just under 20 miles from Columbine High School, where two students shot dead 13 people in 1999.

    5:46: Hospital releasing numbers very soon.

    5:47: Beardstone: Report of guy with handgun leaving in red car.

    5:49: Good news. Death count revised from 14/15 to 12.

    5:53: /u/hgmanifold + /u/CCFTW: Bomb squad was released from the vehicle at the theater. Second unit on scene at the apt. complex.

    5:55: Tweets posted. Trending as #theatershooting.

    5:59: /u/shankee: Tweet found from @RamCNN. Also, /u/hgmanifold: Fire Tower 8 will be entering "Hot Zone".

    6:00: /u/Beardstone: "Tower is going in"

    6:03: /u/nilicule: Witness account of shooting here

    6:04: /u/derphurr: Possible picture of the shooter car: here - warning, blood

    6:05: /u/shankee: GrrlScientist tweets about the shooting. Interesting.

    6:06: FBI: Shooter had an assault rifle, two handguns, and teargas. The car had Tennessee plates. Shooter born in December '87. Shooter has given police a name, but needs to be confirmed. Apprehended outside the theater.

    6:08: Adams, Aurora, and Denver county bomb squads are investigating his apartment.

    6:09: /u/CCFTW + /u/OrgasmicWalrus: 2 federal officials say suspect in Colorado movie theater mass shooting is James Holmes, born December 13, 1987. @NBCNews - also, 9News is playing same dispatch audio again

    6:10: Confirmed and cross-referenced by /u/hgmanifold, /u/shankee, /u/nilicule, /u/purmou, /u/mkyweriga

    6:12: Only contact with Holmes was a traffic ticket. /u/derphurr: His apartment is across the street from Peoria Elementary School.

    6:13: /u/disorderlee: Video of the police arriving at the apartment.

    6:14: Reddit, this is one time you probably should try to dig up some personal information about this guy.

    6:16: Go, Reddit, go! List of hospitals moved to the top.

    6:19: /u/shankee: 14 minutes of posted police radio here

    6:20: FBI agent beginning to enter 3rd floor window of the apartment. "Items of interest" found (/r/nilicule).

    6:24: /u/solie: 3-month old "doing fine"

    6:27: /u/hgmanifold: Electricity is NOT to be shut off, just in case of triggers. Also, (/u/shankee) Denver Health upgrades the critical patient to "fair condition"

    6:29: /u/nilicule: Gas was shut off to the suspect's building.

    6:31: /u/nilicule: Time releases an image gallery from outside the theatre.

    6:33: /u/dynabetes finds a possible White Pages entry for James E. Holmes

    6:35: /u/nilicule finds some Reddit photos from a victim. WARNING! GRAPHIC!

    6:36: /u/CrayonOfDoom posts confirmation of another victim that died.

    6:42: /u/disorderlee: Links to suspect's possible online profiles.

    6:45: /u/nilicule: Suspect's mother tells @ABCNews that the police have the right man.

    6:50: /u/hgmanifold: chatter: "If this thing does go, be prepared to be defensive because of the 'stuff' inside the building"

    6:51: /u/nilicule: "Dark Knight Rises" Paris premiere CANCELLED.

    6:52: /u/solle: 3-month-old discharged!

    6:58: /u/shankee: Warner Bros. statement: "We extend our sincere sympathies to the families and loved ones of the victims at this tragic time."

    7:00: Ignore the ldmaster profiles, please: unless we find something out, please don't post personal info. Thanks.

    7:03: /u/hgmanifold: PD is requesting HazMat.

    7:10: /u/fatmanbrigade: Huffington post timeline of how the shooting news spread

    7:15: Bomb squad leaving the suspect's apartment.

    7:16: /u/nilicule: CNN: As precaution, NYPD will be providing coverage at theaters where 'The Dark Knight Rises' is playing. source; /u/blerg: Guy who was in theater 9: here, and girl here

    7:17: /u/nilicule: Badly placed ad running over the story on the Denver Post

    7:23: /u/fatmanbrigade posts local live streams for ABC; CBS; NBC; FOX, thanks!

    7:30: /u/shankee: CNN: No explosives found at suspect's apartment source

    7:33: /u/shankee: "Medical student, quiet and easygoing." twitter

    7:35: Press conference by Aurora Medical Center. Stats on their way.

    7:36: /u/nilicule: One of those killed in Aurora is a 6-year-old girl, father tells KDVR-TV

    7:40: /u/nilicule + /u/shankee: President Obama has cut his Florida campaign swing short because of the shooting.

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    7:51: /u/nilicule: NYPD Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly on increased security at New York City movie theaters following Colorado mass shooting: news story

    7:53: /u/jonate: 9News tries to source claims from 9gag and realizes it's a troll

    8:00: /u/shankee: Federal officials: Aurora gunman propped open rear door of theater, put on gear, threw tear gas, and began shooting. source

    8:05: /u/faraya: Witness is saying someone received a phone call, went to Exit door and held it open with his foot. After this the shooter came in. 711:00:00 mark on 9News

    8:12: Colorado Governor Hickenlooper on Aurora mass shooting: here

    8:15: Try not to pursue people named James Holmes on Facebook.

    8:17: Barack Obama calls mayor of Aurora. He will speak on the incident from Florida. Washington is hugely involved.

    8:20: /u/shankee: Buckets of ammo found in the apartment.

    8:24: /u/nilicule: We do not believe at this point there was an apparent nexis [sic] to terrorism," White House spokesman Jay Carney says.

    8:28: /u/nilicule: The U.S. Army, concerned over speculation that the shooter might have been a veteran — and eager to stifle the meme of the psychotic veteran before it spread — felt compelled to email that a database check of the suspect resulted in "no evidence suggest[ing] this individual served in the Army." via Wired

    8:33: NBC interviews: here and here

    8:36: /u/nilicule: Huffington Post profile of James Holmes

    8:40: /u/nilicule: Media speculation about the shooting.

    8:42: 3 more months of anonymous Reddit Gold! Thanks, guys!

    8:44: /u/Deus_Viator: Blood banks are looking for (/u/srepetsk) O-, A-, and platelet donors.

    8:45: /u/nilicule: Apartment of Aurora shooting suspect is booby-trapped with flammable or explosive material, Aurora police say

    8:50: President Obama is addressing the nation. Audio of his comments already uploaded here (/u/tenuto). Transcript here (/u/apeudire)

    8:53: /u/nilicule: 5 buildings evacuated around the site.

    8:58: /u/nilicule: Explosives appear 'very sophisticated' and police could be at scene 'for hours or days,' Aurora police chief says

    9:00: /u/Deus_Viator: Hazmat team has arrived at the suspect's residence.

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    9:10: University of Colo. Med School says shooting suspect was student there but withdrew last month.

    9:11: /u/stephwilson: Phone interview with a witness.

    9:12: Bloomberg calls for tighter gun control policies.

    9:13: CNN reporting suspect due in court later today

    9:16: /u/coooolbeans: KDVR article about the shooting

    9:18: /u/nilicule: #CUDenver confirms #theatershooter, James Holmes, getting PHD in neuroscience-- started in fall of 2011; withdrew last month.

    9:22: Confirmation of Jessica Redfield Ghawi's death.

    9:25: /u/alekst: There's a press conference in San Diego outside home of the parents of alleged shooter.

    9:34: Pentagon spokesman: US service members apparently among casualties.

    9:35: /u/shadow_of_a_memory: Obama and Romney stop political ads for today. source

    9:37: Aurora, CO pledges to renew assault weapon ban

    9:40: /u/ndgeek: Moments from the press conference at the Aurora Medical Center.

    9:50: Suspect's family issues statement: "Our hearts go out to those who were involved in this tragedy.

    9:55: /u/derphurr: Really low-res picture of the guy. Maybe.

    9:59: /u/apeudire: Maryland police increase presence at theaters, same in Baltimore

    10:03: Just screenshotted his picture.

    10:05: Unconfirmed reports of C4 in the building?


    The timeline ended up as its own story
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    Rated M for murder :s
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    There are a few threads on the front page of reddit from people who claim they were there. One guy was posting from his hospital bed, still had the shirt with the bullet hole and blood stains.

    Fox already did a segment, someone there was saying that the parents of the children are just as much to blame since it was a midnight rated M movie. Fucking morons
    The movie is rated PG-13...
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    They caught him alive, so maybe a motive (or mental review) will shed more light on why this happened. Other than the fact he is an awful human being.

    Hoping, though, that this won't cause an overreaction, and we'll have to deal with even more security checkpoints in our lives.

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    I've always wondered why real terrorists don't use a similar strategy. It's always the lone idiots who do it.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    The movie is rated PG-13...
    awe, blame that one early morning not being awakeness. They were bitching about the ages so I assumed it was cause of the M rating, but the children injuried were under 13, so that makes sense.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    Except PG means parental guidance if under 13, not that under-13s shouldn't be allowed to watch. Technically speaking, children can't watch R-movies and above.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    technically there isn't a rating that children can't watch. its a voluntary rating system with voluntary enforcement (and thus varing enforcement levels, especially with PG13). PG+ may mean that the theater is less likely to question children going in alone (not sure how many theaters would sell a ticket to a lone 6 year old), but it doesn't mean anything about stupid people blaming the injuries on parents that bring their <13 children to attend a midnight movie of PG13 film. Which is what I originally attempted to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catgrrl View Post
    They caught him alive, so maybe a motive (or mental review) will shed more light on why this happened. Other than the fact he is an awful human being.
    MSN is reporting that he was calling himself the joker when arrested.
    Last edited by Ominous Gamer; 07-21-2012 at 12:05 AM.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    Not Bane?

    It seemed like he thought he was Bane from the way he was dressed etc
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    The article also said his hair was dyed red or orange, which is very un-jokerish.

    Maybe he is setting up for an insane plee?
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    He performed poorly on his med school examinations and one of his professors, who wishes to remain unnamed, came forth and said he was "socially off" and "strangely quiet" in class. He never saw him interacting with others and he kept to himself.

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    Why cancel the Paris premiere? Just seems to give this guy more limelight than he deserves, really. Be better to show that we aren't afraid of such monsters and will continue on with living, despite his efforts.
    (I guess the reason would be out of respect for the dead, but I'd have kept it on and maybe just said a few words regarding the situation)

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    Apparently he was able to access the emergency exit to go to his car and suit up...(Every theater I have run has always had them tied to an alarm system so people don't sneak in)

    The lawsuits against the theater chain will be ginormous.
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    Hear ye! Hear ye! If everyone had more gunz, this could have been avoided! Also, after some convoluted mental gymnastics, turns out this was an attack on Judeo-Christian ideals.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1689099.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catgrrl View Post
    Why cancel the Paris premiere? Just seems to give this guy more limelight than he deserves, really. Be better to show that we aren't afraid of such monsters and will continue on with living, despite his efforts.
    Agreed. World has to keep turning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timbuk2 View Post
    Agreed. World has to keep turning.
    Disagreed. Just because the world has to keep turning, doesn't mean we need to throw the same celebrations as before. It'd be a very uncomfortable, very sombre experience.

    Don't cancel the launch and keep all the regular showings, but no need to have the big flashy red carpet + cameras.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega View Post
    Hear ye! Hear ye! If everyone had more gunz, this could have been avoided! Also, after some convoluted mental gymnastics, turns out this was an attack on Judeo-Christian ideals.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1689099.html
    Wow, that's stupid. A dark, crowded, smoke-filled theater...with a bunch of armed yahoos trying to take down the shooter? What could possibly go wrong with that

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    While the thrust of your opinion is logical...the term armed yahoos can be somewhat insulting...like unarmed pussies.
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    Well, no one would worry about responsible concealed-carry gun owners. Just the yahoos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    Well, no one would worry about responsible concealed-carry gun owners. Just the yahoos.
    Even responsible gun owners trying to take him down would likely hit people in the cross fire (of course in this scenario if that ended his spree that would still be preferable, but most shootings aren't spree killings). Not to mention this guy had a ballistic helmet, a tactical ballistic vest, ballistic leggings, a throat protector and a groin protector. And an assault rifle. And he had the element of surprise.

    Besides, if I understand correctly the police was at the scene very quickly, they were certainly armed, so I'm not sure how much advantage it would have been if more people had been armed, except to add to the confusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I've always wondered why real terrorists don't use a similar strategy. It's always the lone idiots who do it.
    I guess it's cause real terrorists are watched, so when they start making preparations for something like this they get nabbed.
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