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    Default After Obama reelection, Murray Energy CEO reads prayer; layoffs

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...684_story.html


    After Obama reelection, Murray Energy CEO reads prayer, announces layoffs

    By Steven Mufson, Updated: Friday, November 9, 7:16 AM

    For the chairman and chief executive of Murray Energy, an Ohio-based coal company, the reelection of President Obama was no cause for celebration. It was a time for prayer — and layoffs.

    Robert E. Murray read a prayer to a group of company staff members on the day after the election, lamenting the direction of the country and asking: “Lord, please forgive me and anyone with me in Murray Energy Corp. for the decisions that we are now forced to make to preserve the very existence of any of the enterprises that you have helped us build.”

    On Wednesday, Murray also laid off 54 people at American Coal, one of his subsidiary companies, and 102 at Utah American Energy, blaming a “war on coal” by the Obama administration.

    Murray Energy is the country’s largest privately owned coal mining company, with about 3,000 employees producing about 30 million tons of bituminous coal a year, according to its Web site.

    The company was the subject of an article in the New Republic that said the firm forced miners to attend a Romney campaign speech in southeastern Ohio in August. Murray denied the account. The New Republic also reported that Murray Energy employees have given more than $1.4 million to Republican candidates for federal office since 2007.

    Murray has been a target of environmentalists. Notably, the company has spilled coal slurry into a creek on seven occasions.

    Murray’s prayer from Wednesday first appeared on the Web site of the Intelligencer/ Wheeling News-Register. The newspaper said Murray supplied his text. The Postconfirmed its legitimacy with a company spokesman, Gary M. Broadbent.

    Here is the full text of the prayer:

    Dear Lord:

    The American people have made their choice. They have decided that America must change its course, away from the principals of our Founders. And, away from the idea of individual freedom and individual responsibility. Away from capitalism, economic responsibility, and personal acceptance.

    We are a Country in favor of redistribution, national weakness and reduced standard of living and lower and lower levels of personal freedom.

    My regret, Lord, is that our young people, including those in my own family, never will know what America was like or might have been. They will pay the price in their reduced standard of living and, most especially, reduced freedom.

    The takers outvoted the producers. In response to this, I have turned to my Bible and in II Peter, Chapter 1, verses 4-9 it says, “To faith we are to add goodness; to goodness, knowledge; to knowledge, self control; to self control, perseverance; to perseverance, godliness; to godliness, kindness; to brotherly kindness, love.”

    Lord, please forgive me and anyone with me in Murray Energy Corp. for the decisions that we are now forced to make to preserve the very existence of any of the enterprises that you have helped us build. We ask for your guidance in this drastic time with the drastic decisions that will be made to have any hope of our survival as an American business enterprise.

    Amen.
    © The Washington Post Company


    Yes, folks, this is all the Liberrrrrlsss and Obama's fault. Nevermind Murray's multi-million dollar fines in safety violations, $150,000 in campaign donations, and cheap availability of natural gas.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comment...esident_obama/

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    Saw title, went to find IAMA, open thread to discover IAMA already linked...
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    Can't wait for my father to yell this at me and then deny what I tell him about the company so I can hear how "ignorwint" I am about politics.
    Praise the man who seeks the truth, but run from the one who has found it.

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    The guy's math is wrong. If prices increase 100%, they double. So an increase of 800% would mean prices went up 9 times.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    The guy's math is wrong. If prices increase 100%, they double. So an increase of 800% would mean prices went up 9 times.
    Not necessarily. A price increase of 800% is an increase 8 times over. Doubling is an increase one times over.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    The exact wording is that prices have increased 8 times. When combined with the 800% figure, the implication is that the change is from the base.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    Obama the job killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    Obama the job killer.
    Murray the creative destroyer
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    The exact wording is that prices have increased 8 times. When combined with the 800% figure, the implication is that the change is from the base.
    Doubling is an increase of one times base NOT two times. An increase of two times is tripling. 800% increase is an increase of 8 times base.

    The final figure is nine times what it was, but its only an increase of 8 times what it was. Otherwise to stay flat you've what? Increased your base by 1 times base? I don't think so. To stay flat is no increase. The exact words is that it has "increased" 8 times, that is entirely correct. It'd be wrong to say its increased 9 times as the first was already there that can not form part of the increase, you can only look at the change you're right so that is 8 times only.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    Obama the job killer.
    Yeah you're right. Those jobs were just asking for it. They shouldn't have dressed so slutty.
    . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illusions View Post
    Yeah you're right. Those jobs were just asking for it. They shouldn't have dressed so slutty.
    Sooty
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    What a drama queen. His lawyers must have gone nuts editing that letter.

    Environmental record aside, he's not incorrect that the Obama administration's EPA has been pretty aggressive in making a ton of coal-fired power plants effectively unprofitable/getting them to shut down. This doesn't justify such a dramatic and immediate layoff on this particular date, but people be drama queens.

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    And now Papa John's, home of the shitty chain-pizza, is throwing a crybaby pussy temper-tantrum...with hourly cuts and pay to employees.

    http://americablog.com/2012/11/multi...obamacare.html

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    Don't you just hate it when businesses act rationally.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Don't you just hate it when businesses act rationally.
    ...he claims that charing 11 to 14 cents more per pizza (his estimate of what Obamacare will cost his company) is simply too much — so he’s going to cut his employees’ hours, and pay, instead, so the law won’t apply to him.
    If by rational you mean throwing a shit-fit because you have to charge an extra 11-14 cents more for a your [shitty] pizza to provide your low-wage employees with healthcare, then yes.

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    Ignoring the fact that his company is in competition with other pizza chains, and increasing pizza prices by even 11 cents would provide a boost to those competitors.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    Just gives these guys an excuse to act like the dicks they are and get away with it. CEOs aren't concerned about their employees; they only look at the bottom line. If they can continue to make beacoup bucks by getting rid of a few employees, that's what they do. They're always looking for ways to profit as possible with as little investment as possible, and as little employees as possible. That's business, I get it. Prime reason why you don't want a "CEO" as a leader of your country.

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    What socialist bullshit. And profit disappears into a magical hole never to be seen again, right? I take it you don't think opening new stores is an example of investment? This must be why corporations that make large profits don't hire new workers and don't expand. And of course it's the nice CEOs, who overcharge consumers as an act of kindness and end up bankrupting their companies, that should be applauded.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Ignoring the fact that his company is in competition with other pizza chains, and increasing pizza prices by even 11 cents would provide a boost to those competitors.
    Ignoring the fact that every other pizza chains will be required to follow suit.

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    Of course not. I'm saying business is ruthless, that's all. It's his job to make sure he's keeping a good profit. I don't think there is such thing as a "nice" CEO in larger corporations, since it takes a certain amount of "balls" as they say to be at the top. Not any room to be nice. As they say, "It's just business".

    Of course opening stores is an investment. What I'm saying is often you have to make choices as a CEO where you spend that investment. New stores, new employees. If you have to invest in new equipment or other expenditures, you have to decide whether to cut hours, close stores, or eat that extra money and lower your profit margin. The goal is to make money. Not all CEOs operate with the mentality of cutting as many corners as possible to squeeze as much profit out, but many do. Like I said, I get it, it's business. You don't get far if you're not a dick about it.

    11 cents for a pizza isn't an overcharge either. His decision is purely a political protest. His right to do so, since it dips into his profits, but it won't win him much points. Besides, I'm not sure how he would necessarily cut hours anyway. Aren't all PJ's franchises? Does he have the power to order them to cut hours? (I really want to know, I don't know how they operate).



    Would like to see how Pizza Hut and Dominos handle the healthcare situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    What socialist bullshit. And profit disappears into a magical hole never to be seen again, right?
    Well, at the moment...
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    http://nation.foxnews.com/papa-johns...preciation-day

    The CEO of Papa John's, John H. Schnatter, has said that he will have to cut employee hours because of Obamacare. Schattner has received intense media scrutiny in addition to being demonized as an evil rich guy by the Left. Obamacare is a fiscal nightmare and because of it, many small businesses aren't hiring now. Some are even closing their doors. Obamacare is now, as John Boehner said, "the law of the land."

    So let's get this straight - Americans, most likely Pubbies, are pissed off over the recent backlash John Schnatter has received for his decision to cut employees' hours along with their paychecks, to save a mere 11-14 cents. In counter-protest to this opposition, they're showing their support - celebrating Papa John's Appreciation Day - by purchasing their shitty pizza.

    If anyone of these bumbling dingbats has two brain cells to rub together they'd realize their celebration is an indirect support of hourly cuts and lowered pay and circumventing the law.


    I'm seriously, you guys. Dafuq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorNorton View Post
    If anyone of these bumbling dingbats has two brain cells to rub together they'd realize their celebration is an indirect support of hourly cuts and lowered pay and circumventing the law.
    it looks like it's the express intention of the group to support his actions
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    While it may be popular to lambast multinational chains, they provide steady employment to thousands and are typically better, more legitimate and more ethical than the alternatives in that environment. Many are only a thin edge between success and failure too, you may mock 11-14 cents but if they make a 5 cent margin then that means bankruptcy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    While it may be popular to lambast multinational chains, they provide steady employment to thousands and are typically better and more ethical than the alternatives in that environment. Many are only a thin edge between success and failure too, you may mock 11-14 cents but if they make a 5 cent margin then that means bankruptcy.
    I mostly mock his prayer and making it a big political thing from the OP, and Papa John for making a similarly big thing - it just makes it seem like a tantrum. Besides, those costs are in the future so why let them go now, days after the election?

    Also if it was such a valid business decision he would have fired them ages ago, since apparently they aren't needed. Not to mention the fact that other pizza places have the same issue and aren't throwing a tantrum.

    Also, saying more ethical, meh, did you read the OP? Bolded part doesn't read 'ethical' to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    it looks like it's the express intention of the group to support his actions
    Actions that come at the expense of the employees, regardless. They're still indirectly supporting shittier pay and fewer hours simply because it'll cost poor Johnny pennies more for his pizza, and RABBLERABBLERABBLE OBAMACARE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorNorton View Post
    Actions that come at the expense of the employees, regardless. They're still indirectly supporting shittier pay and fewer hours simply because it'll cost poor Johnny pennies more for his pizza, and RABBLERABBLERABBLE OBAMACARE.
    Hate is a helluva drug
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorNorton View Post
    Ignoring the fact that every other pizza chains will be required to follow suit.
    I don't think you realize how business works.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flixy View Post
    I mostly mock his prayer and making it a big political thing from the OP, and Papa John for making a similarly big thing - it just makes it seem like a tantrum. Besides, those costs are in the future so why let them go now, days after the election?
    Because now those costs are certain (they were uncertain until Obama got reelected). And businesses are meant to plan for the future.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    While it may be popular to lambast multinational chains, they provide steady employment to thousands and are typically better, more legitimate and more ethical than the alternatives in that environment. Many are only a thin edge between success and failure too, you may mock 11-14 cents but if they make a 5 cent margin then that means bankruptcy.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/calebmel...bamacare-math/
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorNorton View Post
    Actions that come at the expense of the employees, regardless. They're still indirectly supporting shittier pay and fewer hours simply because it'll cost poor Johnny pennies more for his pizza, and RABBLERABBLERABBLE OBAMACARE.
    On the other hand, you have the call to boycott which will harm those independent franchise-takers and employees who have no real desire or plan to go along with Schnatter and who had no say in his decision to unnecessarily politicize their livelihoods.
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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