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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    Would it be "out of order" if I asked at what age y'all began tasting these beers, lagers, wines and spirits?

    I know some of you are from SSSocialist Europe with lower drinking ages....and experienced booze earlier than many Americans. Do you think that made a difference in your "palate" or personal preferences?

    *or how you view alcohol, or how much you consume?*

    My parents used to let me have a few sips of their wine when I was a kid, 6 or 7. I was drinking with friends at about 17, and then drank like a fish at university from 18-21, then not as much when I started a career, just on weekends, and even less so now I'm a father.

    I don't think it made a difference. I thought beer as a kid was disgusting, and as an adult it tasted better. When I was a student, the price was more important than the taste. Now, I'd prefer something that tastes good, rather than how much it costs.

    I don't get the 21 age limit for alcohol. Surely the majority of kids at Uni drink anyway, so they're just doing it illegally?
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  2. #32
    Right, I was asking about local drinking ages and cultural norms. Which came first, and which is more important?

  3. #33
    I got proper drunk for the first time at around 14 or 15.

    And yep Minxiepoo is quite right, in those late teen / early twenties years it's mixing all sorts of booze into strange concoctions, with the primary aim of blowing the back of your head off.
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  4. #34
    It's an abstract concept...but seems to me American Prohibition is still working its way out in the 21st century. Rather crazy that 18 year olds can serve in military armed forces, but can't legally buy/drink booze. We can't decide what "adulthood" means, or at which age it's a given?

    I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't trust a soldier who hasn't had the opportunity to get stinking drunk, make bad drunken decisions, and face the consequences...before they joined the military. Seems dangerous to have them learn that on-the-job.

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    It's an abstract concept...but seems to me American Prohibition is still working its way out in the 21st century. Rather crazy that 18 year olds can serve in military armed forces, but can't legally buy/drink booze. We can't decide what "adulthood" means, or at which age it's a given?

    I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't trust a soldier who hasn't had the opportunity to get stinking drunk, make bad drunken decisions, and face the consequences...before they joined the military. Seems dangerous to have them learn that on-the-job.
    True, you probably shouldn't have Muslim or otherwise religious teetotallers in your armed forces
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  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    True, you probably shouldn't have Muslim or otherwise religious teetotallers in your armed forces
    The key word in my post was the opportunity to get drunk. That's separate and distinct from religious beliefs.

  7. #37
    I have tasted ice-cider for the first time, a locally produced one, and oh my god
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  8. #38
    I'd like to declare my new favourite pale ale:

    http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/220/44896/

    (Lagunitas New Dogtown Pale Ale)

    The ginger has a good beer-radar
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  9. #39
    Oh, I had that a few weeks ago. There's a bar in NY devoted entirely to California beers, which is interesting for a spin once in a while. It was pretty good, you have married a good one.

  10. #40
    I have found my new favourite cocktail (after G&T ofc): a rum Old Fashioned with Ron Zacapa 23, two sugar cubes, orange peel and finished off with a couple of dashes of chocolate bitters (in addition to the regular bitters). It's the second most well-balanced cocktail I've ever had. Gave me goosebumps of pleasure I was very surprised by my reaction.
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  11. #41
    Try and Old Fashioneds in NY?

    I've recently warmed to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    I have found my new favourite cocktail (after G&T ofc): a rum Old Fashioned with Ron Zacapa 23, two sugar cubes, orange peel and finished off with a couple of dashes of chocolate bitters (in addition to the regular bitters). It's the second most well-balanced cocktail I've ever had. Gave me goosebumps of pleasure I was very surprised by my reaction.
    I've never had an old fashioned, but I thought they were made with whiskey? And what's your most balanced cocktail recipe?
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  13. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Flixy View Post
    I've never had an old fashioned, but I thought they were made with whiskey?
    It's unorthodox, granted

    And what's your most balanced cocktail recipe?
    I don't have the recipe, but it's the Ten Pollen Cocktail at Pollen Street Social in London:

    http://wwd.com/eye/lifestyle/m-must-...urope-8050556/

    This past year, I've become very fond of mezcal margaritas. Unfortunately, quality mezcal is not widely available in Swedish bars and restaurants. What is widely available is Talisker 10-y-o single malt, which makes for a very tasty variation on a classical margarita.

    I haven't had any beer in, like, forever, and my fondness for white wines has slowly grown, but I can never remember which ones I like so it's always an adventure. Our trip to Japan opened my eyes to sake, but we haven't been able to pursue that interest since returning to Sweden because, frankly, we don't know where to begin. We encountered a dizzying variety of local sakes in every city we visited, none of which we've been able to find available for purchase online, and we're not knowledgeable enough to pair them properly. That trip also opened my eyes to shochu, which had, up until then, seemed absolutely vile to me.
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  14. #44
    New discovery: aged white Rioja wines. So delicious. Revelatory

    In other news, for the past year and a half my absolute favourite cocktail has been the mezcal margarita, pref. shaken with ice and served in a chilled lowball glass. If there's no good mezcal to be had, Talisker whisky (10y) is a surprisingly good substitute. Results obviously vary with quality of ingredients and the skill of the bartender.
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  15. #45
    Ooh I've only ever had red Rioja never a white.
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  16. #46
    Apparently only around 10% of the wine produced there is white. Like with other Rioja quality apparently ranges from meh to incredible. The two I tried were aged longer and labeled gran reserva. Very pleasant surprise, much like white wines from Bourgogne.
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  17. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnaught View Post
    Try and Old Fashioneds in NY?

    I've recently warmed to them.
    Was I drunk when I wrote this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    New discovery: aged white Rioja wines. So delicious. Revelatory

    In other news, for the past year and a half my absolute favourite cocktail has been the mezcal margarita, pref. shaken with ice and served in a chilled lowball glass. If there's no good mezcal to be had, Talisker whisky (10y) is a surprisingly good substitute. Results obviously vary with quality of ingredients and the skill of the bartender.
    Is this from your visit to Amerika? That was right around peak Mezcal here. I am increasingly becoming a beer guy, if for no reason other than my ability to tolerate alcohol is plummeting and beer seems like the highest volume-to-alcohol ratio I can get. IE I can have two beers and just be drunk, but two cocktails ruins my whole next day.

  18. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnaught View Post
    Was I drunk when I wrote this?


    Is this from your visit to Amerika? That was right around peak Mezcal here.
    I have taken a vow to not enter MAGArovia until you depose your emperor.

    I am increasingly becoming a beer guy, if for no reason other than my ability to tolerate alcohol is plummeting and beer seems like the highest volume-to-alcohol ratio I can get. IE I can have two beers and just be drunk, but two cocktails ruins my whole next day.
    For some reason, I never get hung over after mezcal margaritas. Obv ymmv but I have no choice but to accept what I once thought was only a myth.
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