In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
So, what if Loki turned out to be a 220lb kick boxer or some such? (ps. he's not) Would you still take actions that "many would consider reasonable" then? Self-preservation would suggest no*. Would, therefore, it be permissible for Loki to call you a rapist or a racist in those circumstances?
* I assume you don't mean "phone my lawyer" here.
When the sky above us fell
We descended into hell
Into kingdom come
How long ago did the abuse occur?
There's a man goin' 'round, takin' names
And he decides who to free and who to blame
Pride is a deadly sin. That's all I'll say on this matter.
Yeah, but the seven deadly sins aren't actually a real thing that matters. It's just some Christian fan fiction.
When the sky above us fell
We descended into hell
Into kingdom come
Ha! No, obviously not. A given of the "I shall prove my honor upon your body" school is that they never do so to somebody who can turn the tables.
Clearly the point of the statement is this: if Loki and I ever met, there would be some stuff we would have to discuss before we could sit down for some civil drinking. I'm working under the assumption that Loki would back down and not call me a rapist or racist in public, to my face. That's even if he's much larger and badder than I am, which would not be an exceptional feat given my age and health. There are very few people of Loki's background who will say such things in public. So,I dramatize the cowardice of hiding behind the internets to say such things.
He never called you a rapist on the internet. Jesus christ, drop it already. I remember that thread, he asked a hypothetical or something to make a point, and instead of responding in any sane way you spent the rest of the thread trying to convince everyone he called you a rapist. Do you really think it's so easy to trick everyone else here into taking your side?
I have no idea where the racist thing comes from, but at this point I'd be forced to take his word for whatever he said happens just because of the other baseless accusations you're throwing around.
a) Total horse shit.
b) What other baseless accusations? Racist? Husseinist? Typical anti-corporate liberal socialist?
Loki does this all the time. Only a moron would argue otherwise.
Is the thread still available?
When the sky above us fell
We descended into hell
Into kingdom come
Which one? Racism was in at least two. Rapist was only one. Husseinist was several. Anti-corporate liberal socialist blah blah blah was applied almost ubiquitously to anybody who refused to fellate corporate America sufficiently, including directed at the current POTUS, both pre- and post-election.
Rapist.
When the sky above us fell
We descended into hell
Into kingdom come
Fuck you (edit:@ Steely)
Er, no, Tear I wasn't actually calling you a rapist there, but rather I was asking for the thread in which Loki allegedly called you a rapist.
When the sky above us fell
We descended into hell
Into kingdom come
Call him a racist now and see what happens!
We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.
Well, I thought you were joking. I actually LOLed when I read your post. You must admit that THAT post, in THAT context, would have been a very Steely-esque riposte.
Edit: I tried looking, and I can hardly find anything from anybody. CC seems to be gone.
I just searched for posts by ']['ear and got 6.
I was I could say it was what I intended, but I only saw it after I had posted.
When the sky above us fell
We descended into hell
Into kingdom come
Wow, complete blank. Never heard of Zalgo.
Must be cool to actually create a meme.
I probably should have used Cthulhu looking back on it...
. . .
Illusions, the meme maven.
Tear, you don't know it because you're OLD. (But that's not an insult, since I'm older than you.)
I've never made a meme, and others probably know a lot more than I do...
. . .
That was a compliment, Illusions.
This place is a bit low on the compliment side. hmmm
Not insulted by the truth. I AM old, given the context.
Oh man am I going to regret this, but I found the thread in question. It was tough, because - and I'm not exagerating here - there were more than a hundred posts where Tear brings it up, and I had to find the exactly one of those where Loki actually did it. Posting this now that the shitstorm has apparently died down is probably an absolutely terrible idea, but I didn't get where I am by making good judgement calls, so here it goes!
Quick summary, Tear was attacking Palin's wardrobe, had called her a 'tart', and basically this is what started the whole thing:
Too lazy to link every damn post, so screw that, you can see it all in the link above.Originally Posted by Loki
A bit later, he makes a post that uses hyperbole to claim that Tear was employing the same logic rapists use- and this was a remarkably stupid argument on Loki's part, but I thought it was obvious what he was saying. It turns out that Nessus was the first to make a thing out of this in the usual dogpile-on-loki fashion, and Tear's first response was actually fairly reasonable! But this was dogpile season.
For those who just really want to win arguments and believe terrible things about Loki, it's possible that one could interpret Loki's most offensive post in that thread as suggesting Tear was thinking about committing rape, but that's a clear stretch IMO. In case you came to that conclusion, Loki clarifies it three times in separate posts.
I was wrong before when I suggested it devolved into a flamefest over that post. It actually wasn't dwelled upon, and everyone moved past Loki's stupid attempt at being clever and incisive relatively quickly. It seemed to be completely dropped after Loki made it clear for the third time that he was not claiming Tear was a rapist. I must have been thinking of one of the apparent multitude of other threads that became about that post.
So, is it fair that this misunderstanding of one of Loki's more ill-advised posts - and at this point, it could only be intentional since Loki clarified multiple times what he meant - continue to be brought up in every single fucking thread a year and a half later?
edit: Especially given that none of the participants in that thread can apparently even remember anything about it anymore?
Wow, that might be the longest post from Wraith I've ever read.
But this is all sounding a bit like 8th grade drama, he said/she said, yes you did/no I didn't/I know I am but what are you?
Enough of the record and score keeping! Families fight sometimes. Words can hurt, regret makes bad vibes, apologies are gold, can't we all just get along?