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    The BluRay version I have is the box set that comes all in one case. But, the last two movies don't come with deleted scenes it seems, just some extra behind the scenes footage but nothing that really interested me. My only complaint though.

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    This is true! Never understood the need for changing the name of the book-and movie-for American audiences. Well, I guess for dumfucks who'd think it was another Indiana Jones-type story? Still, was unnecessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catgrrl View Post
    This is true! Never understood the need for changing the name of the book-and movie-for American audiences. Well, I guess for dumfucks who'd think it was another Indiana Jones-type story? Still, was unnecessary.
    I guess most Americans don't know what a philosopher is or something? I can't recall any of the books ever mentioning any sorcerer though, they're all wizards and witches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flixy View Post
    I guess most Americans don't know what a philosopher is or something? I can't recall any of the books ever mentioning any sorcerer though, they're all wizards and witches.
    That's not the issue. This was the first book in the series. It was geared at teens. What do you think a teen would be more likely to buy (or have bought for them), a book that has the word "philosopher" in it or one that has "sorcerer"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    That's not the issue. This was the first book in the series. It was geared at teens. What do you think a teen would be more likely to buy (or have bought for them), a book that has the word "philosopher" in it or one that has "sorcerer"?
    The first couple of Potter books have an elementary reading level, even shelved in the J section of most libraries. The first book has an Accelerated Reader level of 5.5. So those books were geared towards readers younger than teens.
    Its all about the target audience not understanding what "philosopher" meant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    That's not the issue. This was the first book in the series. It was geared at teens. What do you think a teen would be more likely to buy (or have bought for them), a book that has the word "philosopher" in it or one that has "sorcerer"?
    I already posted the reason stated by the author a few posts ago
    The original book, published in the UK, was entitled Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, in reference to the mythical substance that alchemists believed would transmute base metals into gold. When the American publisher, Scholastic, brought the book out in the U.S., it changed the book's name to Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone in the belief that American children would be confused by the apparent reference to philosophy.Other changes reflect British terms which are largely unknown in the U.S. or which have more common 'equivalents.' For example on page 140 of the British edition of "Sorcerer's Stone" Harry and Ron are eating crumpets, whereas on page 199 of the U.S. edition they are eating English muffins. Similarly, eating a "packet of crisps" and carrying a "torch" from the British edition are converted to eating a "bag of [potato] chips" and carrying a "flashlight."
    And either way, it seemed to work for UK kids. Make of that what you want (Or does a philosopher mean something completely different in American English than in British English?) The odd thing to me is that, AFAIK, sorcerers are not mentioned in the books while wizards are. For what it's worth, the Dutch title roughly translates to 'Harry potter and the stone of the wise'.
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    What was it change from, and to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timbuk2 View Post
    What was it change from, and to?
    On top of the title change, they continue to edit the books between publishings. To fix continuity issues, better relate them to movies, or simply fix something the author didn't like the original wording of.

    anywho...I emailed amazon about what happened. how it seems someone was flipping their UK version from the UK store on the US store for a profit, while making amazon look stupid because they remained the fulfillment point. Told them it wasn't a big enough issue for me to request a refund/return but I felt a little ripped off since I could have bought the version I was mailed via the amazon.co.uk and saved myself about $20.

    They got back to me with a prepaid shipping label and a $10 credit, and told me to purchase the US version from a different seller, and they would cover the shipping charge.

    Damn amazon, always a in my book.
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    Harry potter & the philosopher's stone, to Harry potter & the sorcerer's stone.

    The original book, published in the UK, was entitled Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, in reference to the mythical substance that alchemists believed would transmute base metals into gold. When the American publisher, Scholastic, brought the book out in the U.S., it changed the book's name to Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone in the belief that American children would be confused by the apparent reference to philosophy.Other changes reflect British terms which are largely unknown in the U.S. or which have more common 'equivalents.' For example on page 140 of the British edition of "Sorcerer's Stone" Harry and Ron are eating crumpets, whereas on page 199 of the U.S. edition they are eating English muffins. Similarly, eating a "packet of crisps" and carrying a "torch" from the British edition are converted to eating a "bag of [potato] chips" and carrying a "flashlight."
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    And what a whole new level of depression that brought into the conversation!
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

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    A fantasy book being sold in a fantasy aisle emphasizing the fantasy aspect of the series. How unconscionable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    A fantasy book being sold in a fantasy aisle emphasizing the fantasy aspect of the series. How unconscionable.
    Is there some equivalent to Poe's law where I can never tell whether you actually don't get it or feign ignorance?
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

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    It was geared at children younger than 10?
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    No one said that . 5th graders are usually 10-11 years old. Or are you trying to incorrectly claim that the 10-12 range (tweens and preteens) are teenagers?

    Part of my job is designing programs that are focused towards these two groups, and my system has teen areas that are restricted to the 13-18 age range.
    Hell, even the ESRB has different ratings for the two groups, E10+ and T.
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    They'd probably have been better of calling it the Wizard's stone, I guess. But whatever, it is what it is.

    Loki, the first book could easily be read by an older elementary school kid (4th or 5th grade). When I read it (and was still a hater then, it took me years to give in) I felt it was very Roald Dahl-like; and I'd read many of his books when I was not yet 10. The older ones get much darker and more complicated. All of the books are in the 7-12 year range section at Barnes and Nobles.

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    Today's PSA:

    If you're going to sleep in front of a government building please make sure you aren't carrying any illegal drugs, weapons, or have warrants out. Policy states we have to call the police on your napping ass, and when the police find the above listed bad things, you will end up in cuffs.
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    Sadly enough, he was probably hoping you'd call on him. Spending the night in jail with a meal and dry place to sleep is probably preferable to sleeping on the streets

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    So far, 2012 sucks in a lot of ways.

    [rant]I've flat out had it with winter! Fucking snow and ice and wind and rain and snow and...the lawyer/insurance agent/county attorney who has the business right next door to the laundromat is a cheap, lazy fuckhead who refuses to shovel the city walk between the 2 businesses! I am going to send him a bill the first of the month for all these days I've had to shovel him out too!

    Went to get my driver's license back last Wed (the only day the examiners are in BFE) only to find out I now need a picture ID, an original birth certificate, and an original Social Security card to get it! FFS, if I was here illegally, I could have taken the test and been done with it. Since I'm a US citizen, I have to show my fucking papers!! So here I sit, waiting for the great state of Wyoming to decide if they can issue me a new birth certificate. I'm in that unlucky age group where adoptions were closed and all the records sealed, including certified copies of my birth certificate. I asked the lady in Cheyenne if I needed to present myself in person to prove I am! She hung up on me!

    Fucking medical clinic has, once again, fucked up the fax to renew my meds through Pfizer! So, here I sit with NO Lyrica, and about 3 days worth of Protonix and Premarin! I guess I need to go all bitch ass on Amber again! Goddammit, that takes too fucking much energy!

    Once again, SRB has managed to amaze me! She is sending The Bear to live with The Thing, because, unsurprisingly, Bear has "issues" with The Bug and SRB! What I want to know is, how is a man who just today asked me to buy him a pack of cigarettes, supposed to support a 6 year old little girl?

    Since I kicked Sugar Daddy to the curb back in Oct., he has made a general pest of himself every time he gets drunk! I actually had to call the law on him tonight! He was out in the hallway, banging on my door, hollering all kinds of shit...at 12:30AM! My neighbors at the moment include a 97 year old woman and a lady with a month old baby! They don't need that shit, and neither do I! He managed to run before the cops got here, went home and has called my phone every 3 minutes since. It's now 2:10AM! Jesus Christ, glad I don't have to get up in the morning!

    What is it with doctors who can't listen? I told the local quack that I HAVE NO INSURANCE (yes I yelled it at him because he is hard of hearing and refuses to wear his hearing aids), so what does he tell me on the phone? I called you in a prescription so go pick it up when it's ready! I called the drug store to find out how much it is! FFS, I could buy smokes for a month, at $5 per day, for what a bottle of pills for a week would cost!

    [/rant]
    I don't have a problem with authority....I just don't like being told what to do!Remember, the toes you step on today may be attached to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow!RIP Fluffy! 01-07-09 I'm so sorry Fluffster! People who don't like cats were probably mice in an earlier life! My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves completely!The nice part about living in a small town: When you don't know what you're doing, someone else always does!
    Atari bullshit refugee!!

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    http://arstechnica.com/science/news/...ence-class.ars

    Indiana Senate passes bill putting religion in science class

    Yesterday, after almost no debate, the Indiana State Senate approved a bill that would allow its schools to teach the origin stories of various religions when a class touches on the origin of life. It now moves on to the state's House, where one of its cosponsors is currently the Speaker of the House.

    Although the bill as written could be used to create a comparative religion class, its sponsor, Senator Dennis Kruse, has made it clear that he hopes to see it foster the teaching of creationism in science classes. The original text of the bill explicitly mentioned creation science; it has since been modified to mention a variety of religions, including Scientology. In a brief interview, Kruse expressed disdain for evolution, calling it a "Johnny-come-lately" theory.

    As with many sponsors of bills of this sort, Kruse is apparently unaware of what evolution describes (hint: it's not the origin of life) and of the scientific meaning of the word "theory," which is not broad enough to encompass religious teachings. Unlike many of those other legislators, however, Kruse seems to be aware that legal precedent, in the form of Edwards v. Aguillard, prohibits the teaching of creation science in classrooms. Instead, he hopes that some school district in his state will shoulder the cost of returning the issue to the Supreme Court, which he thinks may choose to ignore precedent and revisit Edwards.

    The year is young, but the National Center for Science Education is already tracking six bills in various states that target science education.
    Well I suppose permitting it may be better than requiring it. Scientology??! And that's not a "johnny-come lately" sort of *cough* "theory" *cough*? >_<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    Well I suppose permitting it may be better than requiring it. Scientology??! And that's not a "johnny-come lately" sort of *cough* "theory" *cough*? >_<
    I propose allowing the teaching of faith based math, history, and English. 2 + 2 = Purple Circles, Abe Lincoln was assassinated by the zombie vampire corpse of a hungry John Wilkes Booth, and "Kruse" is actually pronounced similar to "douchebag"...
    . . .

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    Double posting because this isn't a response to Minx/Aimless but instead something that is messing with my groove. Cover Letters. They are the bane of my existence.
    . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illusions View Post
    Double posting because this isn't a response to Minx/Aimless but instead something that is messing with my groove. Cover Letters. They are the bane of my existence.
    ?

    Cover letters ... on job applications?

    Meh - I never seem to have to bother, thankfully.

    I am currently averaging 10 job applications per week, 80% of which are through specific and relevant online jobs boards. Almost all of those job board applications are to recruitment firms who then assess the suitability of your skillsets and experience to the posted role, usually after phoning you up to discuss further. If suited, they then submit your application for the role to their client firm who have the vacancy(ies). Most of these recruitment firms are in regular contact with their clients, they have an ongoing relationship, sometimes contractual, so the recruiters are generally trusted by their clients to only submit the appropriate calibre of applicant. So covering letters just don't enter this particular equation.

    The other 20% of my applications are through these same recruitment firms, who keep my CV and details on file. When client firms contact recruiters about a vacancy they have, the recruiters usually go through their files to find suitable job-seekers before they advertise on boards. If a suitable job-seeker is found on file, they will call up and see if the job-seeker is still job-seeking () and is interested in the role. If so, then the application is made this way. Again, covering letters are not part of the equation.

    I'm glad I've never had to write one, as I think I'd struggle to know what to put.

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    Curiously enough this topic has recently come up on my other home forum. They've got a cover-letter feedback/critiquing thread for registered members who request access to the secret writing forum

    http://www.notebookinhand.com/forum/...379#post331379
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    I will click your "like" button if you include an appropriate Dilbert strip in your cover letter.
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    Snow, all bloody week it has been clear crisp blue skies and today, the day that I have a flight at 20.25 it starts to snow and from the look of it it's getting worse rather than less. I don't see myself going anywhere today, but still no news about delays. They will come soon though I suppose.
    Congratulations America

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    And yes after the afternoon from hell my flight was cancelled.
    Congratulations America

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    All that snow is on its way over here tonight :/

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    Our winter has been very mild. Regional golfing has posted better employment data than regional skiing. Totally backward seasonal "tourism". Friends of mine who usually spend Dec-Feb skiing in Utah came home early because they didn't have much snow. If they'd waited a while, they could have gone to Colorado and been snowed in at the airport or stranded on a highway. Meanwhile, parts of Europe have so much snow it's a declared emergency situation.


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    It's not the Snow that makes the problems, it's the cold.
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    Fucking global freezing!

    Friday there was over 1275 km of traffic jams in Belgium on highways alone They really do suck at maintaining their roads. Oh well, at least this year we didn't crash our car against a Belgian tree like last time

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