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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
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    If you aren't on the right than yeah you should be mad at Trump, I don't blame you. He's been incredibly effective in pushing the conservative agenda.
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    You're an embarrassment to the term conservative.
    Lewk, there are plenty of conservatives who disagree with you, even some on this forum.

    Some have left the Republican party (like George F. Will). Ohers look the other way, or even deny Trump's pathology, because they want him to sign their legislation (like you). 'Party first' used to be something the Republican party would reject, especially when it threatened our democracy (Nixon/Watergate). Even tho the GOP controls all branches of federal govt, and a majority of state govt, they're governing for Trump's base, ~ 30% of the population.

    It's disingenuous, and false, for you to imply that ONLY conservatives or (R) care about things like national security, funding the military, protecting borders, or reforming immigration policy....and that teh libruls want open borders, with millions pouring into the US, mostly rapists and terrorists, from shithole countries, with amnesty and citizenship for all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    Lewk, there are plenty of conservatives who disagree with you, even some on this forum.

    Some have left the Republican party (like George F. Will). Ohers look the other way, or even deny Trump's pathology, because they want him to sign their legislation (like you). 'Party first' used to be something the Republican party would reject, especially when it threatened our democracy (Nixon/Watergate). Even tho the GOP controls all branches of federal govt, and a majority of state govt, they're governing for Trump's base, ~ 30% of the population.

    It's disingenuous, and false, for you to imply that ONLY conservatives or (R) care about things like national security, funding the military, protecting borders, or reforming immigration policy....and that teh libruls want open borders, with millions pouring into the US, mostly rapists and terrorists, from shithole countries, with amnesty and citizenship for all!
    A lot of liberals do want more and more immigration because that is future votes for their party.

    Let me just ask you this. Who is happy with more conservative justices on the bench? Liberals or conservatives? Regulations? Immigration? My point is that anyone who likes conservative policies should be thoroughly happy with Trump's first year. AGAIN, he's personally obnoxious and his agenda isn't perfect but by and large its been a great first year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    A lot of liberals do want more and more immigration because that is future votes for their party.
    Sounds like you think "liberals" or the (D) party would die out, if we just didn't have so many immigrants?

    Let me just ask you this. Who is happy with more conservative justices on the bench? Liberals or conservatives?
    Loaded question. There were/are conservatives in the Republican party that didn't think of Scalia as "Jesus Christ of Latter Day Republicans". But if you're asking me if I want a SCOTUS heavily tilted or loaded toward one political party's agenda, no. I don't want a Republican held house, senate, and POTUS stacking the court....any more than you'd want a Democratic held house, senate, and POTUS doing the same.

    Regulations? Immigration? My point is that anyone who likes conservative policies should be thoroughly happy with Trump's first year. AGAIN, he's personally obnoxious and his agenda isn't perfect but by and large its been a great first year.
    Trump's "agenda" was/is stoking anxieties and exploiting fear. Divide and conquer, just like a reality TV show. Use social media (and press coverage) to call our Free Press "fake news". The elections were rigged (until he started winning). Russian hacking is a hoax. Don't believe your lying eyes, it's all a vast left wing conspiracy. The FBI is in shambles. Don't trust any institution, even now that he's in charge. Only a stable genius like him can fix all our problems, and he can do it alone!

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    Apple may have just helped make a Trump second term a realistic possibility.

    Following the Republicans tax changes Apple are paying $38bn in taxes and bringing on shore upto $312 billion to invest, spend or pay dividends etc - that is an incredible sum of money.
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    Being upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.a5a52ecb348f

    The Trump administration will create a new conscience and religious freedom division within the Health and Human Services Department to ease the way for doctors, nurses and other medical professionals to opt out of providing services that violate their moral or religious beliefs.

    Cause fuck the Hippocratic Oath.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.a5a52ecb348f
    The Trump administration will create a new conscience and religious freedom division within the Health and Human Services Department to ease the way for doctors, nurses and other medical professionals to opt out of providing services that violate their moral or religious beliefs.

    Cause fuck the Hippocratic Oath.
    Just what part of the Hippocratic Oath do you believe to be violated by this?

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    To be clear, I'll be referring to the modern interpretations and not get muddied with your shit interpretations of the original texts. For example, from a local college: https://apply.med.ufl.edu/Applicant/...craticOath.pdf

    • Do no harm
    • Respect
    • Impartial care
    • Not be swayed by prejudice
    • I will do all in my power to help my patients reach physical, mental, and spiritual health
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8165381.html

    Donald Trump‘s public admiration for strongman leaders and breaking of “taboos against racism and xenophobia” have encouraged oppression around the world, Human Rights Watch (HRW) has claimed.

    There goes another organization the ass backwards conservatives can add to their liberal fake news list.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    Why the hell would a doctor or nurse who oppose abortion work in an abortion clinic?
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    To be clear, I'll be referring to the modern interpretations and not get muddied with your shit interpretations of the original texts. For example, from a local college: https://apply.med.ufl.edu/Applicant/...craticOath.pdf

    • Do no harm
    • Respect
    • Impartial care
    • Not be swayed by prejudice
    • I will do all in my power to help my patients reach physical, mental, and spiritual health
    Okay, so how does it interfere with the modern interpretation of the Hippocratic Oath?

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    It's easy to opt out of abortion in advance but much more difficult to opt out of treating LGBT persons on advance, and doing so after the fact can be harmful to the patient, to their relationship with healthcare providers and to the credibility of the healthcare system.
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
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    Hope is the denial of reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Would you really want to know that truth if you were one of them?
    Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    It's easy to opt out of abortion in advance but much more difficult to opt out of treating LGBT persons on advance, and doing so after the fact can be harmful to the patient, to their relationship with healthcare providers and to the credibility of the healthcare system.
    The case of Trya Hunter shows things are a lot more serious than "can"
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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