Yeah, a guy who supports Republicans and Republican causes while opposing Democrats and Democratic causes is a Democrat just because he runs as one in elections for a mostly apolitical post.
And sure, when Giuliani says inner cities, he refers to things 99% of the Republican base doesn't know or care about. He's not implying that only African Americans commit electoral fraud.
Hope is the denial of reality
Seeing as how you had a vote in the primaries, had a chance to sway people in your local party politics? This is deliciousOriginally Posted by Loki
Suck it!
In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
That would entail joining one of the parties. No thanks.Seeing as how you had a vote in the primaries, had a chance to sway people in your local party politics? This is delicious
Suck it!
Hope is the denial of reality
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck may work most of the time but not when describing someone as "party elite". You're no better than those here on the left who dismiss anyone they dislike as a Tory. The SNP extremists dismiss all of Scottish Labour as "red Tories". The far left dismisses anyone in Labour who doesn't agree with Corbyn as "a Tory". But whatever the far left or Scottish nationalists want to say, the only Tory elite are leaders let alone members of the Tory party. The GOP elite are leaders let alone members of the GOP. Not Democrats.
You're right he's not. He's saying that Democrats commit fraud. Which would be why he said that the dead vote for Democrats, not that they vote for blacks.And sure, when Giuliani says inner cities, he refers to things 99% of the Republican base doesn't know or care about. He's not implying that only African Americans commit electoral fraud.
This is not alike.America has millions of people who claim to be Democrats but haven't actually voted for Democrats since the 1970s and don't support any Democratic policies.
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And not a single one of those millions could possibly be called a member of the "GOP elite". In order to be a member of the "GOP elite" you'd have to actually be both in the GOP and "elite". Someone who is a Democrat and just Mayor of Hicksville is neither.
Minus the part where he regularly campaigns for Republicans and Republican causes.
Hope is the denial of reality
Still doesn't make him Republican Elite.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...infamous-tape/
It seems Trump isn't hemorrhaging the support of Republicans over the sexual assault allegations for reasons separate from partisanship.
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That's pretty handy, you get to clutch your pearls at anything remotely SOCIALIST anyone does, but at the same time you're not at all culpable for the likes of mister Cruz. Why, it's as if you're not participating in democracy at all!
In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
Party primaries are private affairs run by private organizations. There's nothing democratic or undemocratic about them. I'm quite happy to vote for the lesser of two evils once general elections roll around. We all know both parties are currently controlled by populist mobs (albeit a somewhat less threatening mob on the left). Until the "let's make things fairer even if it destroys the economy" faction of the DNC or the "we hate non-white folk" faction of the GOP become much weaker, there's no sense of working from the inside. And that means one of the parties has to implode or there has to be a change in the political system. I hear Maine is voting on ranked voting.
Hope is the denial of reality
If they're run by parties why do you register your allegiance with the state? Why don't you just privately sign up to join the party directly?
LOL
I hope you have nothing of substance to say about political matters, son
In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
In Georgia, you don't.
Hope is the denial of reality
In Georgia you do not have to be a member of a party to vote in the primary, you simply have to choose one or the other on the day of the primary election.
I kind of think open primaries are shit, although I did vote in the Republican one in 2012 since there was nothing state or local that mattered for me to vote Democrat for, and President Obama did not need my primary vote.
I voted for Huntsman.
Still feel really gross that I ever voted for a Republican, though (and I did not vote for downballot races). The funny thing was hearing people rant and rave about how much they wanted closed primaries.
We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.
An open primary state. Which states with closed primaries don't require you declare to the state which party you support?
If primaries were party-ran then the party could know from closed data who its members is since it is running the primary itself, why would the state need to know such intrusive information as having a registered database of who support which party?
I find something very creepy and open to authoritarianism to have the state get you to declare party allegiance.
Loki do you accept yet that Trump's dreadful campaign is doomed to fail?
Trump's toast, but the people who are voting for him aren't going anywhere. He's also some incredibly irresponsible things about election day and the aftermath. I would not be surprised to see some degree of trouble around Nov. 8th/9th. Probably nothing serious. But still. We're in a situation now where we're seriously questioning whether or not a modern western democracy - in fact the preeminent modern, western democracy - will have a peaceful transition of power. And even though the answer is "yes, for the most part it will" that's... pretty much unprecedented in recent history, as far as I know.
And there's a question of what happens to the Republican party. Most of the thinkpieces I have read on this topic seem to be operating under the assumption that the Republican party will pull back from the brink and the only question is how they are going to do so. I see no reason for such optimism. And what if the next Trump doesn't brag about his penis on stage, insult women and minorities every time he's near a microphone or have a history of sexual assault and fraud, and doesn't babble incoherently and shows a grasp of English above eight grade level, but still has the same nativist and populist policies?
I'd say if that were to happen we'd be in very big trouble indeed.
No doubt the 'Both sides' monkeys and the Lords of the Golden Mean on this forum will pronounce themselves fully at ease with the situation because a couple of democratic senators are 9/11 truthers or something, or there's a tape of a big name democrat saying something daft about foreign policy in 1976. The complacency of some of you lot is astounding.
When the sky above us fell
We descended into hell
Into kingdom come
The Democrats, the Democrat candidate and their most ardent supports in 2000 (and for the next eight years) hardly took Bush's victory with the best of graces. There was no violence though. This time again there will be whining aplenty but I expect it will be contained to some pretty empty gesture protest and complaints of conspiracy on Twitter and beyond. Ie nothing serious.
I'm not sure what your obsession with "both sides" is lately, may have missed that. Both sides are deeply flawed, just one side is immensely more flawed and insane than the other right now. It's a pretty sad state of affairs.
I'd put the odds of the Republicans picking someone sane next time at about 75%. After 12 years out of power (and with control of SCOTUS lost) minds will become more concentrated I hope.
There was a dead heat in Florida and a lot of questions about the voting process, i.e they had an actual reason to give the result some side-eye. Trump's doing this shit before votes have even been cast.
I'm sick of seeing the alleged 'deep flaws' (read: disagreeing with their politics) of the democrats used to excuse and ignore the utter fucking insanity of what's happening to the Republican party right now, especially from people with no skin in the game - i.e white men who won't have the basic rights or personal safety threatened by a Trump presidency and what he represents. It's just the most appalling sniveling cowardice.I'm not sure what your obsession with "both sides" is lately, may have missed that. Both sides are deeply flawed, just one side is immensely more flawed and insane than the other right now. It's a pretty sad state of affairs.
Or they'll spend the next four years doing their histeronic "Hillary Clinton: worst human being ever" act, then wonder why their has become somewhat unhinged and nominates Donald Trump Jr as their candidate for 2020.I'd put the odds of the Republicans picking someone sane next time at about 75%. After 12 years out of power (and with control of SCOTUS lost) minds will become more concentrated I hope.
When the sky above us fell
We descended into hell
Into kingdom come
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...-rigged-229936
What did I say about the mainstreaming of crazy in the GOP?
Hope is the denial of reality
That's because Trump is insane. A few months ago when it became clear this was really going to happen I kind of hoped that he was acting crazy to win the primary and then would tack back to reality once he had the job to fight Hillary. Instead it seems that the batshit crazy Trump of the primary was the "@realDonaldTrump" - scary!
Two wrongs don't make a right. There are major flaws in the Democrats but that doesn't excuse the insanity of the GOP. It is like getting a choice of an unpleasant tasting meal or rancid raw chicken - swallow the bad meal and move on as the alternative is deadly but that will still leave a bitter taste in the mouth.I'm sick of seeing the alleged 'deep flaws' (read: disagreeing with their politics) of the democrats used to excuse and ignore the utter fucking insanity of what's happening to the Republican party right now, especially from people with no skin in the game - i.e white men who won't have the basic rights or personal safety threatened by a Trump presidency and what he represents. It's just the most appalling sniveling cowardice.
Considering Trump will be history in three weeks and Hillary will be President-elect glossing over her faults is not helpful. The fact nobody other than a crazy self-declared socialist or a then relatively unknown and unheard of black first term Senator have been the only people who've been able to challenge Hillary for the nomination in the last decade is not helpful.
We'll see. Hope not.Or they'll spend the next four years doing their histeronic "Hillary Clinton: worst human being ever" act, then wonder why their has become somewhat unhinged and nominates Donald Trump Jr as their candidate for 2020.
Just saw the piece by John Oliver on 3rd party nominees. Anyone who's voting for those people is deluding oneself - their platform is at least as dodgy as Trump's.
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
I think their point is that they're not going to get elected anyway so they just shout whatever sounds good until you actually think about it. Of course that's a sorta self fulfilling prophecy because it also means you'll never be considered a serious candidate like that.
Probably also the reason why Wilders never really wanted to be in the government here, having to actually implement his plans (or rather explain to his voters why it's impossible to implement them) would be a serious problem. Much easier to stay out of the government and just complain
Keep on keepin' the beat alive!
Clinton up 4% in Georgia, in striking distance of flipping Texas too.
This isn't going to be close, this is going to be a (well deserved) total humiliation. Trump is more likely to get a Barry Goldwater style of result than become President.
At this point we should be encouraging folks to stay home, nothing to see here - no way Trump will win!
Except we don't want Trump to just lose, we want a demonstration that a majority of the Republic (the entire state, not just the plurality/bare majority that actually votes) is smarter than the shitstains who got him nominated by a major party. The victory over that sort of candidate and campaign need to be crushing to reaffirm that our democracy isn't passing into non-functional populism.At this point we should be encouraging folks to stay home, nothing to see here - no way Trump will win!
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
A close defeat will just tell the Trumpistas and their supporters that they need someone even Trumpier in 2020.
Hope is the denial of reality
http://www.vox.com/identities/2016/1...ource=facebook
#lewktopiaNot all students adhere to such boundaries. According to the Teaching Tolerance report, while some kids are afraid, others feel empowered to bully each other, in particular with the anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant sentiments that have had so much airtime during the presidential campaign.
“Students seem emboldened to make bigoted and inflammatory statements about minorities, immigrants, the poor, etc.,” a high school teacher in Michigan wrote in response to the survey.
There are reports of students repeating and exaggerating Trump’s positions, to the point of advocating for violence:
Teachers in New Hampshire — where the first primary was held — reported some of the greatest increases in disturbing behavior. One high school teacher from Westmoreland wrote, “A lot of students think we should kill any and all people we do not agree with. They also think that all Muslims are the same and are a threat to our country and way of life. They believe all Muslims want to kill us.
Bullies have targeted Muslim students and those who they confuse with Muslims with particular aggressions:
Muslim students — along with the Sikh and Hindu students who are mistaken for Muslims — have endured heightened levels of abuse. According to reports from around the nation, Muslim students regularly endure being called ISIS, terrorist or bomber. These opinions are expressed boldly and often.
Students target classmates of Mexican descent for taunts and threats about immigration. And, as in the case of Phoenix’s day camp friend, kids aren’t particularly detail-oriented about this bullying, and expand it to cover children of many different backgrounds:
Teachers in every state reported hostile language aimed at immigrants, mainly Mexicans. A Wisconsin middle school teacher told us, “Openly racist statements towards Mexican students have increased. Mexican students are worried.” A middle school teacher in Anaheim, California, reported, “Kids tell other kids that soon they will be deported.” Regardless of their ethnic background or even their immigration or citizenship status, targeted students are taunted with talk of a wall or threats of forcible removal.
Neither are the slurs limited to schools with immigrant populations. “At the all-white school where I teach, ‘dirty Mexican’ has become a common insult,” a Wisconsin middle school educator said. “Before election season it was never heard.”
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Of course they are. They frequently condense complex issues into simple pronouncements. Calling often-contested political ideas "facts" is no substitute for the subtlety that exists behind many issues.PolitiFact is biased?
Again, the facts show she lies on some issues. Trump lies on all of them. Romney and McCain lied on most of them. That's just reality. Feel free to go through the actual claims being fact checked.
Beyond the platform that I mostly support, there's a clear strategic reason to vote for a third party like Gary Johnson. Breaking 5% opens-up federal matching funds, which chips the armor of the existing political order. Seems worth trying.
It's pathetic to watch the left-wing desperate to lock people into a two-way fight we all know they will win.
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