No, I don't think people want a third Bush. But the candidate list is fairly uninspiring and ignoring the fact that Jeb is a Bush, he is the best they're offering, IMO, and also hits the most "electability" criteria. People will have their personal favorites of course, like Huckabee (whose consistent last-place performance in multiple past nomination races demonstrates that the GOP voters just don't like him), Christie, or Walker, but Jeb also has a fair portion of what people like about those candidates and more besides. He's very well-rounded, politically speaking.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
So you must be a cable subscriber to watch the debate. That's fucked up FOX and Facebook. Who the fuck is your audience?
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If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?
old people stuck in the past. Thats got GOP and cable written all over it.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
Rubio "If this election is a resumé competition, Hilary Clinton will be the next President."
BUAHAHAHAHA
https://www.reddit.com/live/vcum7xwwd9rz
This is getting hilarious
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
Thanks OG, better than nothing.
Faith is Hope (see Loki's sig for details)
If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?
There were plenty of non-cable streams available, that worked better than the official.
At any rate, it was better than anyone's wildest wet dreams could have hoped for.
We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.
I liked the part where Cruz managed to call for violating international law (confiscating passports from Americans who don't have a second nationality) and praise a dictator (el-Sisi) in consecutive sentences.
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I'll give it to Trump, he hit a home run when he talked about buying politicans, even Hillary. The system is corrupt, but its rare to see someone talk about how they were a part of it.
and huckabee could have done a lot with his comment concerning the military being an object to kill people and break things, if the context wasn't him trying to attack gays serving.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
And yet he couldn't name a single serious example where the donations provided results. Incidentally, what's a better way to prove that you don't hate all women than to go after the only female moderator after the debate.
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Unless she is Rosie O'Donnell
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
You call that a serious example? Getting a politician to attend your daughter's wedding? What awful corruption.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/here-a...50256782.html#
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I wish i was paid for some weddings I went to, would have made up for the boredom.
Keep on keepin' the beat alive!
Yeah, I'm not getting how 'ooh, she attended the wedding' is some big political coup. I mean, like, even at lower levels, someone you have a professional/friendly/whatever relationship with invites you to their/the offspring's/ the pet chinchilla's wedding, you go. For some, if you have a really good excuse you can just send a gift and forget about it - but in general, you just suck up your thoughts of 'ugh, wedding' and go.
We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.
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If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?
So you're agreeing with me that Trump didn't actually say what his donations bought.
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If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?
Which politicians did Trump "buy" that did things for him they would have fiercely resisted doing if he hadn't given them money? What laws did he buy? Which contracts? I have no doubt giving lots of money to politicians can be beneficial to those who do so, but it is kinda dumb to pretend that that is the same as buying someone
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
The bolded part is his tirade,
BAIER: Mr. Trump, it's not just your past support for single- payer health care. You've also supported a host of other liberal policies. Use -- you've also donated to several Democratic candidates, Hillary Clinton included, Nancy Pelosi.
You explained away those donations saying you did that to get business-related favors.
And you said recently, quote, "When you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do."
TRUMP: You'd better believe it.
BAIER: So what specifically did...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's true.
BAIER: -- they do?
TRUMP: If I ask them, if I need them, you know, most of the people on this stage I've given to, just so you understand, a lot of money.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not me.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not me.
(LAUGHTER)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But you're welcome to give me (INAUDIBLE) Donald if you'd like.
TRUMP: Many of them.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Actually, to be clear...
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- he supported Charlie Crist.
TRUMP: Not much.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, Charlie...
(CROSSTALK)
TRUMP: But I...
(CROSSTALK)
TRUMP: -- Donald, if you...
(CROSSTALK) TRUMP: I have good...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- this campaign, I hope you will give to me.
TRUMP: Good.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK.
TRUMP: Sounds good. Sounds good to me, Governor.
I will tell you that our system is broken. I gave to many people, before this, before two months ago, I was a businessman. I give to everybody. When they call, I give.
And do you know what?
When I need something from them two years later, three years later, I call them, they are there for me.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So what did you get?
TRUMP: And that's a broken system.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What did you get from Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi?
TRUMP: Well, I'll tell you what, with Hillary Clinton, I said be at my wedding and she came to my wedding.
You know why?
She didn't have a choice because I gave. I gave to a foundation that, frankly, that foundation is supposed to do good. I didn't know her money would be used on private jets going all over the world. It was.
But...
(BUZZER NOISE)
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If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0923c12bd079c Rand, still don't think he's a sexist pig?
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He's a disgusting sexist pig - and the Republican base won't give a shit.
We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.
He's not supported by the Republican base. Note Trump's attack against Fox News. And his unwillingness to write off an independent run. He's supported by token Republicans who actually hate the party (more so than even the Tea Partyers).
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Right, and those outliers are enough to make him win national polls (granted, everything I have read says their polling practices are shoddy).
Still, you forget, the base is not woman-friendly at all. Binders of women. Waste half a billion on women's health.
We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.
There is a huge list of reasons Trump is awful. Let's start with:
"In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat." Direct quote from Trump. Trump is a pathetic joke and the faster reality comes crashing back down the better. This actually happens quite a bit in the early part of the the Primary season. Remember Howard Dean?