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    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    Limbaugh earned enough millions from sponsors/advertisers to start/buy his own damn radio station. Isn't that what Glenn Beck did, in starting Glenn Beck Radio? Isn't that what all extremists do, after earning enough money from their extremism to call it freeee enterprise?
    Yeah, anyone who doesn't want editorial interference is an extremist!
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  2. #1862
    You should know it's particularly "bad" when right-leaning Republican voters condemned what Limbaugh said.
    This happens all the time. Limbaugh is an embarrassment to the Republican political establishment. Doesn't mater - he has plenty of listeners who don't give a damn.

  3. #1863
    It does matter, though. Limbaugh has been a key note speaker at CPAC conventions, and his show is broadcast to US troops via Armed Forces Radio Network.

  4. #1864
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    The other day my son came home talking about an effort to bring a Ugandan war lord to justice. He'd heard about it at school, knew it was a Facebook or Twitter phenomenon. He rolled his eyes, but promptly logged onto Facebook to see what was up. He watched the entire 30 minute video, and followed up with some great questions/challenges. ie, why now, why there, when this type of thing occurs around the globe?

    Later on, CNN and msnbc news mentioned the "viral video". It was fairly amazing how one video went viral, exponentially. It was interesting to follow what my kid brought home after school, and watch it the same night on the news.

  5. #1865
    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    Reset

    The other day my son came home talking about an effort to bring a Ugandan war lord to justice. He'd heard about it at school, knew it was a Facebook or Twitter phenomenon. He rolled his eyes, but promptly logged onto Facebook to see what was up. He watched the entire 30 minute video, and followed up with some great questions/challenges. ie, why now, why there, when this type of thing occurs around the globe?

    Later on, CNN and msnbc news mentioned the "viral video". It was fairly amazing how one video went viral, exponentially. It was interesting to follow what my kid brought home after school, and watch it the same night on the news.
    Er... there are a lot of problems with the Kony 2012 campaign, notably being that the video is full of factual errors and misconceptions. There's no doubt Kony is a nasty guy, but I'm less than impressed with this campaign - and the actual work done by the Invisible Children NGO is not best-in-class.

    http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/...licated_things

  6. #1866
    True, but the magnitude of what "going viral" means in today's social media.....is very interesting. And it redefines what any campaign really means.

  7. #1867
    Quote Originally Posted by wiggin View Post
    Er... there are a lot of problems with the Kony 2012 campaign, notably being that the video is full of factual errors and misconceptions. There's no doubt Kony is a nasty guy, but I'm less than impressed with this campaign - and the actual work done by the Invisible Children NGO is not best-in-class.

    http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/...licated_things
    Depends on what you think the goal of the campaign is. If it's to provide factual information to the American public, then it failed miserably. However, if the main intent was to raise public awareness, and make sure the American government pays a high public price for withdrawing its troops from the area, it seems to have done quite well. I would imagine the latter is the real goal, not the former.
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  8. #1868
    Well at least a larger portion of the American public now knows for a fact that there's this douchebag called Kony
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  9. #1869
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Depends on what you think the goal of the campaign is. If it's to provide factual information to the American public, then it failed miserably. However, if the main intent was to raise public awareness, and make sure the American government pays a high public price for withdrawing its troops from the area, it seems to have done quite well. I would imagine the latter is the real goal, not the former.
    As far as I can tell, their real goal is fundraising. It's succeeded, but given their poor track record at actually helping people, I'm less than impressed.

    The US government sent in troops multiple times without any prodding by the rest of the world, or our citizenry - in fact, we've upgraded our contacts with militaries in both Congo and Uganda precisely to deal with the LRA. This is also not a political issue, Limbaugh stupidity aside - both GWB and BHO have tried to get rid of Kony, and there's pretty broad bipartisan support for a small mission to help Uganda/DRC/etc. to finish him off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiggin View Post
    This is also not a political issue, Limbaugh stupidity aside - both GWB and BHO have tried to get rid of Kony, and there's pretty broad bipartisan support for a small mission to help Uganda/DRC/etc. to finish him off.
    Support is one thing... urgency, another. Looks to me like they could be trying to up the priority of their little hell to realize some results sooner, rather than later.
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  11. #1871
    Quote Originally Posted by wiggin View Post
    As far as I can tell, their real goal is fundraising. It's succeeded, but given their poor track record at actually helping people, I'm less than impressed.

    The US government sent in troops multiple times without any prodding by the rest of the world, or our citizenry - in fact, we've upgraded our contacts with militaries in both Congo and Uganda precisely to deal with the LRA. This is also not a political issue, Limbaugh stupidity aside - both GWB and BHO have tried to get rid of Kony, and there's pretty broad bipartisan support for a small mission to help Uganda/DRC/etc. to finish him off.
    Not quite sure how "tell the US government to kill Kony" is going to get this group much money. As Cain says, this was never a US priority. Next time there's a cut in AfriCom's budget, the public awareness is going to make it very difficult to cut the anti-LRA mission. This is certainly not going to lead to a change in policy, but that's not what these people are after.
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  12. #1872
    The organization sells $30 'info' packets on their site which they're pushing quite hard - and, I understand, quite successfully. Of course, the group's finances are quite sketchy, and only something like 30% of their budget goes to actually, you know, helping people. But people outraged by something incorrect they saw on Youtube or Twitter don't really care about those details, do they?

    Africom's budget isn't getting cut any time soon, the US has been upgrading their presence in Africa for years. They have multiple times tried to get rid of Kony - a botched SF raid by US-trained commandos back during GWB's time (as early as 2006?), heavy support for the Ugandan military to take on the LRA earlier, and now more 'advisers'. This is a consistent bit of US policy for a very long time and I highly doubt it's going to go anywhere.


    Also, for an awareness campaign I find it very self-defeating. People online are pushing for utterly useless things - moving US troops into Uganda, for example - which are at odds with what actually needs to happen. There isn't a useful, coherent call to action here other than to make people realize Kony is a bad guy. Whoop de do.

  13. #1873
    http://news.yahoo.com/emo-killings-r...070258712.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiggin View Post
    The organization sells $30 'info' packets on their site which they're pushing quite hard - and, I understand, quite successfully. Of course, the group's finances are quite sketchy, and only something like 30% of their budget goes to actually, you know, helping people. But people outraged by something incorrect they saw on Youtube or Twitter don't really care about those details, do they?

    Africom's budget isn't getting cut any time soon, the US has been upgrading their presence in Africa for years. They have multiple times tried to get rid of Kony - a botched SF raid by US-trained commandos back during GWB's time (as early as 2006?), heavy support for the Ugandan military to take on the LRA earlier, and now more 'advisers'. This is a consistent bit of US policy for a very long time and I highly doubt it's going to go anywhere.

    Also, for an awareness campaign I find it very self-defeating. People online are pushing for utterly useless things - moving US troops into Uganda, for example - which are at odds with what actually needs to happen. There isn't a useful, coherent call to action here other than to make people realize Kony is a bad guy. Whoop de do.
    A fool and his money are soon parted.

    It's not a priority, and the amount of resources expended on this mission prove as much. What happens if Boko Haram steps up attacks in Nigeria and the government decides the 100 troops are better off there?

    The point of an awareness campaign is to make a given issue a higher priority for the government; it's not to change government policy. There is 0% chance that this campaign somehow leads to a large-scale military presence in Uganda/Congo.
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  14. #1874
    30% going to help people isn't that unusual is it?
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  15. #1875
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    A fool and his money are soon parted.
    I don't disagree, but what does that have to do with anything? I'm just not impressed with the organization and the campaign since it's clearly a thinly veiled fundraising campaign that's inaccurate to boot. Just because I don't have sympathy for the people who make stupid contributions doesn't mean I think the Kony 2012 campaign is effective at anything good.

    It's not a priority, and the amount of resources expended on this mission prove as much. What happens if Boko Haram steps up attacks in Nigeria and the government decides the 100 troops are better off there?
    Africom doesn't have some finite number of troops it has to apportion between various priorities - they get almost all of their troops seconded from CENTCOM or EUCOM, though it's likely in this case they were from SOCOM (I'm not sure exactly how they were apportioned or funded for this particular engagement). The fact of the matter is that this LRA mission is simply not a strain on the Pentagon's resources - at all. The reason we're not going in with a larger force is because it's questionable how effective it would be, and the repercussions could be quite significant, not because it's a low priority. Some veteran foreign policy wonks in the region have suggested that US military assistance of any sort may be counterproductive, though they obviously would also love to see Kony go.

    The point of an awareness campaign is to make a given issue a higher priority for the government; it's not to change government policy. There is 0% chance that this campaign somehow leads to a large-scale military presence in Uganda/Congo.
    This has always been a high priority for the government; I don't see how an 'awareness' campaign will change anything whatsoever in policy... and if you're not changing policy, then what exactly does it mean to make it a higher priority? If this 'prioritization' doesn't change anything, what does it do?!

    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    30% going to help people isn't that unusual is it?
    Most charities I contribute to spend at least 85-90% of their budget on programs and only 10-15% on administrative/fundraising. There are much better NGOs doing similar work in the area.

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    Tells you everything you need to know about the Kony 2012 thing.
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  17. #1877
    Mass Effect 3 ending. Incredibly awesome game.... WORST ending ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    Mass Effect 3 ending. Incredibly awesome game.... WORST ending ever.
    I take it you have not set foot at all into the multiplayer?
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    I just saw my neighbor's little girl throwing something (looked like a soda can) at her own house repeatedly, and then she aimed it at a window. The outer window pane has a big hole in it now.

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    Snitches sleep in ditches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khendraja'aro View Post
    I take it you have not set foot at all into the multiplayer?
    By the by, that's just as awful as everyone thought it would be, right?
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    The multiplayer is decent. It won't hold interest for too long - there's not very much variety, but it's still a decent add-on. It's the only part of the game I've played so far - there's still one DLC I need to do for Mass Effect 2 before I can start the single player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khendraja'aro View Post
    I take it you have not set foot at all into the multiplayer?
    I have not but that was never the appeal of Mass Effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    I have not but that was never the appeal of Mass Effect.
    Well, there's the explanation for the ending then. You didn't think that this "Galactic Readiness" thingie didn't matter, did'cha?

    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post
    By the by, that's just as awful as everyone thought it would be, right?
    It's alright. Not earth-shattering, but alright. Save for the times where someone with the upstream bandwith of a 28K Modem tries to host a match.
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  25. #1885
    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/banker...ry?id=15876507

    Damn those investment bankers; not only do they ruin our economy, they threaten to blow up our children, too.
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  26. #1886
    Quote Originally Posted by Khendraja'aro View Post
    Well, there's the explanation for the ending then. You didn't think that this "Galactic Readiness" thingie didn't matter, did'cha?



    It's alright. Not earth-shattering, but alright. Save for the times where someone with the upstream bandwith of a 28K Modem tries to host a match.
    Oh I get the idea of different endings... the problem is that they are ALL bad. After I beat the game I went on-line, its almost universal agreement the ending was a let down. Gaping plot holes. I won't go into it here but just google "mass effect 3 anger."

    Even the "best" ending (which I watched on Youtube) makes absolutely no sense.

    Don't get me wrong the game was fantastic. The ending though... just ugh.

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    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    A week ago I got a call at home from someone from my wife-to-be's side of the family (He's married to her grandmothers sister), some how he found out that I used to dabble in web design. Now, no one can tell me how he found out but he asked if I was up for some work and if I wanted to go to his place to discuss. I initially told him I had not done it for over 8 years so I wouldn't be willing to take it on but he still wanted me over as he needed some advice on other sites he'd had people do for him.

    So, last night I went to his with my other half. I went into the guys office and she stayed in the living room talking to her grandmothers sister. After 20mins I finally asked "What websites do you actually own?". He paused for a few seconds and said "Can you keep a secret?", obviously I said yes. He typed in a website and low and beyond - He runs a members owner bondage website. He hires pornstars/random women and records women tied up being teased by other women.

    I've been with my other half for 7 years ..... she has NO IDEA he does this. In fact, only a small minority know about this in her family.

    WTF!

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    So was he inviting you to help with his website or to be part of his website?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    So was he inviting you to help with his website or to be part of his website?
    Help with the website redevelopment ONLY. It needs an overhaul to be honest! It's not been visually updated since 2003 although it's update with 'content' on a weekly basis.

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