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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Just the second largest nation in your continent. Soon to be the largest bigger than any in your backwards bloc.

    Long term the EU has just lost its biggest and wealthiest member. But don't worry there are some third world nations you can replace us with.
    I don't know what you get so worked up about, but your country simply has lost relevance. Yes the UK or England is still a middle sized European country, but what happens on your side of the Channel doesn t affect people overhere in the same way it might have affected us a couple of days ago.

    Our relevant partners are the US, China, India, Russia, Japan.
    Congratulations America

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    I know you're pissed at the UK and everything but the UK is definitely an important trading partner.. fairly nog economy right at the doorstep, that's hard to ignore. Sure it's not an empire anymore, but still.
    Keep on keepin' the beat alive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    Our relevant partners are the US, China, India, Russia, Japan.
    Computer says no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    I don't know what you get so worked up about, but your country simply has lost relevance. Yes the UK or England is still a middle sized European country, but what happens on your side of the Channel doesn t affect people overhere in the same way it might have affected us a couple of days ago.

    Our relevant partners are the US, China, India, Russia, Japan.
    Interesting definition of middle that the currently second largest and soon to be THE largest economy is a middle sized one.

    India and Russia are both smaller than the UK and not only is the UK going to within this generation overtake Germany to become Europe's richest nation we will be overtaking Japan too.

    USA and China I grant you are larger than us and will continue to be. If India can unlock it's growth potential it should be bigger than us too but isn't yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by earthJoker View Post
    Computer says no.
    If the UK was counted independently then we are #1 on that list more important even than the USA and you would still be in the top 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    If the UK was counted independently then we are #1 on that list more important even than the USA and you would still be in the top 5.
    Can someone tell him that Brexit will happen?
    Congratulations America

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    I know that. Doesn't change the fundamentals. Even under the worst case scenarios posted by the Remain side (based on full exit of Europe to WTO Tariffs and not a single new trade deal with anyone else - simply not going to happen) we still are scheduled to overtake Germany as number one.

    The demographics make it inevitable unless we start to see mass emigration from the UK. You haven't lost Europe's second largest nation in the medium term you've lost the largest.
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    What? The rest of the EU traded over 517 million EUR with the UK (minus whatever portion of that the UK traded with the US)?? That's some financial servicing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    I know that. Doesn't change the fundamentals. Even under the worst case scenarios posted by the Remain side (based on full exit of Europe to WTO Tariffs and not a single new trade deal with anyone else - simply not going to happen) we still are scheduled to overtake Germany as number one.

    The demographics make it inevitable unless we start to see mass emigration from the UK. You haven't lost Europe's second largest nation in the medium term you've lost the largest.
    It does change the fundamental that I am no longer interested. You can do your nationalistic circle jerk with your friends in the BNP.
    Congratulations America

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    Not everything is trade.
    Congratulations America

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    It does change the fundamental that I am no longer interested. You can do your nationalistic circle jerk with your friends in the BNP.
    Fuck you.
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    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    @earthJoker
    Not everything is trade.
    True independence is also important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Interesting definition of middle that the currently second largest and soon to be THE largest economy is a middle sized one.

    India and Russia are both smaller than the UK and not only is the UK going to within this generation overtake Germany to become Europe's richest nation we will be overtaking Japan too.

    USA and China I grant you are larger than us and will continue to be. If India can unlock it's growth potential it should be bigger than us too but isn't yet.
    And this coming from the guy who tries to tell us again and again that expert projections concerning the results of the Brexit are not applicable. And then he presents us with pie-in-the-sky numbers from experts which predict the rise of the UK...

    ... that does not work, Rand.
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    Many many experts backed Brexit. Many did not. Those that did not made assumptions based on the UK both losing access to the Single Market and the UK signing no new trade agreements. I view those assumptions as both fundamentally unsound.

    Despite what they were saying during the campaign (eg Obama's "back of the queue" remarks) since the vote came in we have already had many nations now say signing a trade deal with us will be a priority. For every one that does that is another blow against the faulty assumptions that undermined the case for Brexit. Had Obama told the truth and the experts factored the truth in then they would have produced different numbers.

    Projections for the UK overtaking Germany being a matter of when not if are unanimous. While Brexit debate had expert opinion split there is no such split on the demographics that make this inevitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Many many experts backed Brexit. Many did not. Those that did not made assumptions based on the UK both losing access to the Single Market and the UK signing no new trade agreements. I view those assumptions as both fundamentally unsound.
    This referendum really made you up your dishonesty game. No, there weren't many many experts backing Brexit. This is like saying that there are many many experts saying climate change isn't happening because there are 20 people saying that while there are a thousand saying the opposite.
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    you brexit, you pays for it
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Many many experts backed Brexit. Many did not. Those that did not made assumptions based on the UK both losing access to the Single Market and the UK signing no new trade agreements. I view those assumptions as both fundamentally unsound.
    I absolutely love how you like to count "one, two, many" when the real numbers aren't really in your favour.
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    This referendum really made you up your dishonesty game. No, there weren't many many experts backing Brexit. This is like saying that there are many many experts saying climate change isn't happening because there are 20 people saying that while there are a thousand saying the opposite.
    The financial institutions that are linked to the government backed the status quo that the government backed. But it's noticeable that the former directors of many of these organisations who can speak independently backed change. Mervyn King long term Governor of the Bank of England, Digby Jones long term director of the CBI. These are not crackpots.

    Same with our allies. Allied states backed the government's line. Many former heads of those states backed change.

    It is not a cynical conspiracy theory to suggest the government was putting pressure out there to back Remain. Far from it, it was official policy.
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    I absolutely love how you like to count "one, two, many" when the real numbers aren't really in your favour.
    Typing on a phone. There was no intention of doing that. Absolutely more were on the other side never denied that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    The financial institutions that are linked to the government backed the status quo that the government backed. But it's noticeable that the former directors of many of these organisations who can speak independently backed change. Mervyn King long term Governor of the Bank of England, Digby Jones long term director of the CBI. These are not crackpots.

    Same with our allies. Allied states backed the government's line. Many former heads of those states backed change.
    Bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Bullshit.
    I bet he's going to tell us now that Obama said the 'special relationship' stays strong and important or something.
    Congratulations America

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    Very strong indeed: http://www.economist.com/blogs/democ.../06/back-queue (another useless expert).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Very strong indeed: http://www.economist.com/blogs/democ.../06/back-queue (another useless expert).
    Oh, but he'll be gone in a couple of months, and his father is like Kenyan so what you expect?

    And we all know that the US is a real easy country to make an agreement with. Their senate has never stopped anything ever.
    Congratulations America

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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-9224781.html

    Looks like Farage is a Putin-worshiping asshole, like the rest of his far-right ilk in Europe (and yes, the article is a bit dated).
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    Corbyn office 'sabotaged' EU Remain campaign - sources

    someone explain uk politics to me
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    Commies like Corbyn don't think the EU is commie enough and believe the only path to communism is through national elections (i.e. they haven't read Marx in a while).
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    Maybe it's got to do that the system on the one hand is geared towards independent mp s yet works with parties to allocate high offices.
    Congratulations America

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-9224781.html

    Looks like Farage is a Putin-worshiping asshole, like the rest of his far-right ilk in Europe (and yes, the article is a bit dated).
    Good job Farage is a meaningless nobody who has been made redundant by Thursday's vote then isn't it?
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    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    Your level of delusion on this topic is utterly breathtaking. Carry on.
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